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Almost all of the TD difference comes from 2018 inside the 5-yard line. Look at their success rates.

Henry: 13 of 17 (76%)
Zeke: 3 of 11 (27%)
 
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Toruk_Makto said:
Now is the time to remember Zeke made 25MM to Henry's 5MM on their rookie contracts and that's before we talk about the 90MM extension Zeke just signed.
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Dude. I'm sure you are a nice person so i am coming to you as an internet friend.

Give it up man. People are laughing at you. It's kind of hard to watch. Read through this thread. You are making yourself one of those people that you initially laugh at but then as time goes on you can't even laugh anymore because it seems like its something darker under the surface.

I'm glad you like Henry. We like Zeke. Heck some like Zeke and Henry. Some don't really even think of Henry.
Will you feel better if you can pull a few fans down your hole with you? Is that what this is about?
 
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percyhoward said:
Almost all of the TD difference comes from 2018 inside the 5-yard line. Look at their success rates.

Henry: 13 of 17 (76%)
Zeke: 3 of 11 (27%)
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Considering scoring is pretty important that's...not good.

Considering Zeke has played behind the better line those last 500 carries and has played with superior offensive weapons those 500 carries and has played with the superior QB those 500 carries and has made 5x as much as Henry and that's before you get to his extension this all seems....not good.
 
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DFWJC said:
Jalen Ramsey + Derrick Henry

or

Ezekiel Elliott + Jalen Smith

Both are good options
Our guys look just fine though.
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All of this sounds fun to talk about especially to compare what could have been but we doubled on CB the year after because of what we did the year before. In the end, many people will see Taco, Zeke, Ramsey, and every draft pick compared to someone who has done it better (in their opinion).

With that said, we’ve drafted great! And nothing to lose sleep over. I’m just saying... Trubisky/Mahommes, Wentz/Dak, and the list goes on. It must hurt to take this seriously and think about this all the time.
 
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superonyx said:
Dude. I'm sure you are a nice person so i am coming to you as an internet friend.

Give it up man. People are laughing at you. It's kind of hard to watch. Read through this thread. You are making yourself one of those people that you initially laugh at but then as time goes on you can't even laugh anymore because it seems like its something darker under the surface.

I'm glad you like Henry. We like Zeke. Heck some like Zeke and Henry. Some don't really even think of Henry.
Will you feel better if you can pull a few fans down your hole with you? Is that what this is about?
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When I come across stats I share them.

Imagine needing to do arm chair psychiatric work because the information I present, which I did not generate, and probably someone researched because Henry just played on national TV last night makes you/the board uncomfortable.

We are constantly told Zeke makes us a championship contender. So would Henry as well? Why is this not reasonable discussion on the Zone?
 

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Lmao. Exactly. Last 500 carries is cherry picking at its finest. There is more to a RB than just his carries. Zeke is better overall by far than Henry. And I am a fan of Henry. But he reminds me of Marion Barber. His style of running won't be long for this league.
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I’d imagine because his weirdo coach insisted on putting him in a timeshare with Demarco and then Dion Lewis so it’s more of a valid comparison.

Henry is awesome and I definitely wanted him. And Ramsay. Worked out ok tho
 
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superonyx said:
Dude. I'm sure you are a nice person so i am coming to you as an internet friend.

Give it up man. People are laughing at you. It's kind of hard to watch. Read through this thread. You are making yourself one of those people that you initially laugh at but then as time goes on you can't even laugh anymore because it seems like its something darker under the surface.

I'm glad you like Henry. We like Zeke. Heck some like Zeke and Henry. Some don't really even think of Henry.
Will you feel better if you can pull a few fans down your hole with you? Is that what this is about?
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It’s bizarre.
And he’s definitely not trolling. He just has an unhealthy obsession.

The best part is the way he tries to be condescending to other posters, while literally everyone else is looking at him sideways like what is wrong with this guy who just cannot let go of something that he cannot impact, and really has no impact on him.
 
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I would’ve been just fine with Henry as I liked him or Zeke, you can’t go wrong with Zeke/Jaylon or Henry/Ramsey. I am happy with how it worked out.
 
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Somebody refresh my memory but wasn’t Henry looking like a bust his first year and a half? 2016 success doesn’t happen with Henry in the backfield...

Am I wrong?
 
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doomgazer said:
In any statistical study you can manipulate the data to say anything you want. Stats are meaningless without context. Look at the whole picture.
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In his last bash-Zeke thread he posted the percentage of total carries that went for more than 15 yards. Zeke was 17th with the specialty backs having a higher percentage and pronounced "Zeke can't break long runs".
 
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CF74 said:
Somebody refresh my memory but wasn’t Henry looking like a bust his first year and a half? 2016 success doesn’t happen with Henry in the backfield...

Am I wrong?
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He averaged 4.5 yards per carry his rookie year. He was in a timeshare and in an offense that had exactly one 300 yard passer.
 
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Kaiser said:
In his last bash-Zeke thread he posted the percentage of total carries that went for more than 15 yards. Zeke was 17th with the specialty backs having a higher percentage and pronounced "Zeke can't break long runs".
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Zeke ranked 15th in percentage of yards coming on runs longer than 15 yards.

In his last 500 carries Zeke has one carry for more than 40 yards. One.

If you're telling me Zeke is a home run threat....please show me the home runs.
 
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Toruk_Makto said:
When I come across stats I share them.

Imagine needing to do arm chair psychiatric work because the information I present, which I did not generate, and probably someone researched because Henry just played on national TV last night makes you/the board uncomfortable.

We are constantly told Zeke makes us a championship contender. So would Henry as well? Why is this not reasonable discussion on the Zone?
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We are not uncomfortable.
You sound like you are looking for fights so you can make your case and walk away feeling like you are vindicated somehow.
Nothing you can say or no stats you can post will change the fact that Zeke is a great back. He will be our (yes that includes you also) RB for the next several years.

Why are you attempting to make cowboys fans feel "uncomfortable" as you put it?
Then what?

What is your motivation?

Just like Dak vs Wentz folks.... They can both be good QB's and one being good in one way doesnt make the other bad ect.
 
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