Dak is the best qb in the NFL right now

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Fitz isn't playing, Rosen is. Relatively unknown quarterback, plus Woods out, means even more of a trap game.

Good news is Quinn is available, maybe Hill can show something.

This game still worries me...
This was a Dak is best in league thread and I was throwing in perspective on basing this on two games.

You probably meant to post this on another thread?

Amyway, as for the game; I'm not worried. Might be closer than expected but I'd be shocked if we don't win easily.
 

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DYAR #1
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb/2019
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I dont see the sb category in there which is the only one that matters.
 

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Something I have not seen talked about.
78.1 and 86.7 pass completion % in 1st 2 games avg is 82.4%

This is highest in NFL I think.
I checked a few like rodgers and brees ryan, and brady.
Tom had a 71 % in miami game.
Most avg in 60's or lower.
82% Pass completion ? is very unusual.
7 td's 1 int
QBR IS 140.9 AVG for 2 games.

People have said he cant carry the team, but he has for the last 2
games, due to kellen and better group of receivers.
here are the only others that come close.
Lamar Jackson 85.0 and 158.3 vs Miami-- 64.9 104.8 vs Arizona 7td avg 74.9 % 131.55 qbr
I left these out lol

Mahomes II 68.2 131.2 vs raiders-- 75.8 143.2 vs Jags - 72% 137.2 qbr 7td

Brady 71.4 124.7 vs Miami-- 66.7 124.9 vs Steelers - 69.05 % 124.8 qbr 5td's

Just a side note,

8 teams at 0-2 Miami needs to out lose the other 7 teams
9 are 2-0 5 in NFC Dallas should go 3-0 then maybe 4-0 will they be the last unbeaten team? only 4 others
besides Dallas in NFC. 3 are in the west Div, sea SF and rams, so they have to play each other so they
will have to lose soon.

About Miami I read a little on it, and they have very good reason to tank and finish last,
They traded away 2 of their best players for # 1 picks, they now have 3, and 2 in rd 2 , and 2 in rd 3.
It would be stupid to then go 8-8 and have middle of round picks, so best thing is to finish last
and then it is up to how wisely they use those picks.
The other thing is how to you get players to tank , or play badly?? some wont want to, it would be bad for their resume, and some wont like the idea. So it isnt easy to finish dead last.

Mahomes II 68.2 131.2 vs raiders-- 75.8 143.2 vs Jags - avg 72% 137.2 qbr 7td

Brady 71.4 124.7 vs Miami-- 66.7 124.9 vs Steelers - avg 69.05 % 124.8 qbr 5td's
(Rodgers doesnt even come close.)

So seems to me Dak is the best QB in NFL right now 2 games in to this season.
Maybe its time to sell high why hes playing so well! Just kiddin! Dak has played well and when he plays like this it makes the team fun to watch. Key is consistency because he has played well other games but then goes cold for stretches. I am excited for this team to hit the tougher stretches of the schedule.
 

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I'm gonna give Dak a little shout out right here. I've been critical of him and most likely wrongfully so, but I want to point one thing out.

Norman was talking crap before the game, ok. But did everyone see when Dak took off upfield how he stared down Norman as he was running? Dak could have slowed his pace and let the blocker do his job, but he chose to try and faceplant him with a stiff arm instead. It ultimately didn't work, but you have to love the fact he tried it.
 

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Maybe its time to sell high why hes playing so well! Just kiddin! Dak has played well and when he plays like this it makes the team fun to watch. Key is consistency because he has played well other games but then goes cold for stretches. I am excited for this team to hit the tougher stretches of the schedule.
your right, he has been hot and cold in the past.
But it seems with kellen, and the better wr's, he is mostly hot now.
It will be interesting to see how he and team does thru the GB game.
GB will be a challenge as they have a better defense it seems.
 

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You carry a team when the players around you are average to below and you elevate their play, that isn't the case with Dak he needs above average pro bowl elite players around him to elevate his game, the players around Dak carry him right now, you should understand that basic, if Dak can carry a team is to be determined, that hasn't been to case to date hopefully that will happen. Consider yourself enlightened.
Well by your standards then what about Rodgers in GB?? last 2 years, GB has not made playoffs,
why wasnt he able to "carry" those teams??
No qb is able to go to playoffs and win there, with average to below avg players around him.
And coaching is also a factor in all this.
 

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Dak's impressive growth + Kellen Moore + patsy schedule = very gaudy numbers to begin the season

I'll take it!

Nevertheless
Just a reminder for perspective

Thru 2 games
  • Ryan Fitzpatrick 2018 : 819 yard, 8 TDs, 1 int...151.50 QB rating
  • Dak Prescott 2019: 674 yards, 8 TDs, 1 int....144.83 QB rating

The good news is that vs Miami this week, Dak and the Cowboys should their roll!
Fitz in 2018? Not so much. lol
good point, I remember that, and what hurt fitz though was his coaches, they stopped the down field
passing in favor of shorter passes, and trying to drive the ball. They should have let him keep
tossing the deep ones.
 

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Yeh he's ballin right now. Feels like every read he makes is the right read. Great ball placement on a majority of his throws. I mean did anyone watch mariota last night OMG.
Mariota is awful, he gets hot sometimes, but mostly he is awful and makes some really dumb throws.
Tanney is better than him.
 

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I'd think everyone on this forum would agree Mahomes is the best QB
That is partly due to the tv guys telling you over and over again how great he is, and that he is the best.
you guys are brainwashed and dont know it.
Mahomes is good, and he is flashy, fun to watch, but all qb's are different , they have different styles.
I find it hard to say any one guy is the best now and from now on.
They all get hot and cold, and have different teams and coaches and that factors into it all.
But the media has gone on and on about mahomes, to the point now everyone says he is the best no
matter if another qb is the one that wins the game and the SB....Brady
 

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Dak is doing great right now. He looks like he is completely done a 180 in mechanics etc... I mean it looks like he has really worked hard, to correct issues.

But, right now, at this time... no he is not better than Mahomes. You can't use stats to make that point. You have to actually watch KC games.
I watch KC, and the Browns when they don't conflict with Dallas games. Just because I want to see Mahomes, and Baker, what they are capable of.
Baker, seems to be off a bit. Mahomes, he is everything, everyone says he is. Not every team can have a Mahomes... Just like every team
can't have a Brady. But, Dak is nowhere near what Mahomes is, let alone Brady right now. Anything is possible, but not right now.

Mahomes is incredibly gifted at thinking on his feet, when a play falls apart. He can improvise, like a vet that has been playing for 10 years.
In so many different ways, make no mistake about it he's better than Mahomes. Culture of the locker room. It's just as important as Talent. Add that to his resume and I take him any day over the other guy
 

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They should agree and I would like to think they would agree and could agree, but that’s not happening.
Not until you define better. I believe in culture the locker room I get Prescott at 10 Mahomes 7
 

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That is partly due to the tv guys telling you over and over again how great he is, and that he is the best.
you guys are brainwashed and dont know it.
Mahomes is good, and he is flashy, fun to watch, but all qb's are different , they have different styles.
I find it hard to say any one guy is the best now and from now on.
They all get hot and cold, and have different teams and coaches and that factors into it all.
But the media has gone on and on about mahomes, to the point now everyone says he is the best no
matter if another qb is the one that wins the game and the SB....Brady

the media does fawn over Mahomes, but with good reason. Arriving at the same conclusion isn’t the result of brainwashing, it’s having functioning eyes and left frontal lobe.
 
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