I’m really irritated by the hypocrisy of Gregory on the roster while Charlton is gone

CowboyRoy · Sep 20, 2019

DCreppinBoysfan said:
it makes no sense imo. From how I interpret the situation(based off my interpretations of Stephen Jones statements on the matter), Gregory hasn’t even applied for reinstatement. That fool probably still wants to get those last highs before he stands before Goodell. If the franchise felt like they couldn’t trust or depend on Charlton to be there for the team and released, how the heck is Gregory still associated with the team. What kind of message does that send to the lockerroom and more importantly, the fan base.

What is it that you dont get? The message is abundantly obvious:

"If you have talent, we will deal with all the BS"

"If you suck like Taco and have no talent, then your history"

CowboyRoy · Sep 20, 2019

DCreppinBoysfan said:
His production is overstated. He’s not producing that much to the point it cancels out how unreliable he’s been to the team. Let’s get it right, his production is not on the caliber of a josh Gordon who’s an all pro player when he’s playing.

Here is a nice piece of advice for fantasy guys. Immediately pick up Dorsette from the Patriots.

Toruk_Makto · Sep 20, 2019

Gregory has an actual medical condition.

Charlton did not. He was just a malcontent.

zrinkill · Sep 20, 2019

Never seen any evidence of him having a medical condition.

JBond · Sep 20, 2019

Has he stopped smoking weed? Mental health issues are a common challenge in the NFL.

DallasDomination · Sep 20, 2019

Manster_Mash said:
And suspended again several weeks later.

The sad truth.. but I'm hopeful.

jay94 · Sep 21, 2019

Oh_Canada said:
Especially in light of the fact Antonio Brown is still not suspended by the NFL. What a joke.

You talk about bringing negative attention to the league, obviously we live in a social media age, but everything in the past 25 years fails in comparison.

DCreppinBoysfan · Sep 21, 2019

jay94 said:
The op is stupid, Gregory wants to be here, meanwhile Taco has wanted out since last year.

Look at this Tough guy here

DCreppinBoysfan · Sep 21, 2019

zrinkill said:
Never seen any evidence of him having a medical condition.

Typical weedhead explanation. Heard it all the time in my old line of work

jnday · Sep 21, 2019

DCreppinBoysfan said:
Look at this Tough guy here

These insults have really gotten out of hand.

xwalker · Sep 21, 2019

DCreppinBoysfan said:
it makes no sense imo. From how I interpret the situation(based off my interpretations of Stephen Jones statements on the matter), Gregory hasn’t even applied for reinstatement. That fool probably still wants to get those last highs before he stands before Goodell. If the franchise felt like they couldn’t trust or depend on Charlton to be there for the team and released, how the heck is Gregory still associated with the team. What kind of message does that send to the lockerroom and more importantly, the fan base.

Gregory gets drug tested while suspended.

Other than the 1 issue of smoking weed, Gregory has been a model citizen in the locker-room, meetings and on the field. He reported in better condition than most other players after being reinstated the last time. When the coaches say jump Gregory jumps and then asks if that was good enough then offers to do it again.

Players must have completed a series of steps before applying for reinstatement. The specifics of that process are not known to the public.

JoeKing · Sep 21, 2019

jaythecowboy said:
My point was if Gregory was taking up a spot on the 53 he would be cut. You also left out the fact that Taco didn't want to be with the Cowboys. It could just be as simple as the player that wanted to be on the team is, and the player that didn't want to be on the team isn't.

You couldn't be more wrong. When Gregory is on the 53 he is a very productive player. Do you not remember how productive he was? There is no way they would cut him. The fact that Taco didn't wanting to be on the roster was irrelevant. He made himself unwanted and we needed the space because Robert Quinn is returning. Taco isn't here because he made himself expendable.

glimmerman · Sep 21, 2019

Since he is suspended I don’t know if the NFL is still drug testing him. If they are then he is likely passing them or we would hear about him failing. This is his second time being suspended indefinitely so goodell is not in a hurry to see him. I don’t know if he had failed a test or missed one, it counts as the same but goodell may look at it different.

Taco was not as talented and didn’t listen to the coaches and bucked the system so he is gone.

Gregory is a odd case of I can’t quit smoking weed cause it makes my condition better. I don’t understand that but I don’t have his condition either.

Parcells4Life · Sep 21, 2019

Gregory being on a “list of names” is the same as if they had a category for top fans and got to be on an official “list of names/roster”

Gregory doesn’t cost a dime.
They own his rights
They may hear from him they may not.
He doesn’t go to the facility.

so really what’s the difference between Gregory being on the roster and any poster on here being on a roster if they made one for “top fans”?

They kept Rolando McClains rights for 4 years before he was reinstated. Once he could have cost them a roster spot by being activated they renounced those rights.

glimmerman · Sep 21, 2019

Parcells4Life said:
Gregory being on a “list of names” is the same as if they had a category for top fans and got to be on an official “list of names/roster”

Gregory doesn’t cost a dime.
They own his rights
They may hear from him they may not.
He doesn’t go to the facility.

so really what’s the difference between Gregory being on the roster and any poster on here being on a roster if they made one for “top fans”?

They kept Rolando McClains rights for 4 years before he was reinstated. Once he could have cost them a roster spot by being activated they renounced those rights.

If he stays in shape and gets reinstated and can come in and immediately help the team then I am fine with it. I no longer hold out hope that he will be a permanent player unless they change the rules for weed. If they do then let Irving come back also. These are good players that are better than what we currently have. I am so mad at Irving because we could use him at DT. Lol

Scotman · Sep 21, 2019

DCreppinBoysfan said:
Typical weedhead explanation. Heard it all the time in my old line of work

My son has a form of OCD that involves horrible and persistent anxiety. It has changed our lives as we try to manage it. NO form of personal treatment should be illegal if it doesn't harm others. He isn't a weedhead. He doesn't drink. Doesn't do illegal drugs...and that has prevented us from even being able to try something with potentially less side effects and possibly more effective. He's one of the nicest and most compassionate people you would ever meet. Everyone who knows him likes being around him even though those interactions are tough for him...at a level most people will never understand. Your attitude about treatment might change if your second grade son ever came home from school in tears telling you it was really hard to live while trying to be perfect every single day. That was 15 years ago and it's still hard to even type that sentence.

Your statement, completely dismissing what Gregory has been reported as dealing with, is a massive part of the problem. We don't look at mental health like we do other forms of health. We treat mental health with shame and ridicule. Everyone with any personal knowledge of Gregory has said that it isn't an attitude problem but a mental health issue.

And you just dismiss it from behind your keyboard because you dealt with"weedheads" in your old line of work. Were you a psychiatrist? Psychologist maybe? Counselor? Any sort of trained medical professional? I'd bet not.

I hope that you can see the difference between these two situations at some point. I also hope that you don't ever understand it the same way that I do. I hope you don't ever experience anything like it. I wouldn't wish that understanding on you.

glimmerman · Sep 21, 2019

Scotman said:
My son has a form of OCD that involves horrible and persistent anxiety. It has changed our lives as we try to manage it. NO form of personal treatment should be illegal if it doesn't harm others. He isn't a weedhead. He doesn't drink. Doesn't do illegal drugs...and that has prevented us from even being able to try something with potentially less side effects and possibly more effective. He's one of the nicest and most compassionate people you would ever meet. Everyone who knows him likes being around him even though those interactions are tough for him...at a level most people will never understand. Your attitude about treatment might change if your second grade son ever came home from school in tears telling you it was really hard to live while trying to be perfect every single day. That was 15 years ago and it's still hard to even type that sentence.

Your statement, completely dismissing what Gregory has been reported as dealing with, is a massive part of the problem. We don't look at mental health like we do other forms of health. We treat mental health with shame and ridicule. Everyone with any personal knowledge of Gregory has said that it isn't an attitude problem but a mental health issue.

And you just dismiss it from behind your keyboard because you dealt with"weedheads" in your old line of work. Were you a psychiatrist? Psychologist maybe? Counselor? Any sort of trained medical professional? I'd bet not.

I hope that you can see the difference between these two situations at some point. I also hope that you don't ever understand it the same way that I do. I hope you don't ever experience anything like it. I wouldn't wish that understanding on you.

Let me just say that I am VERY familiar with your sons situation. Mental health is treated with a broad brush and is frowned upon even though they try to make it look different. Your son has to try to keep his mind occupied with different things he enjoys. Happy is hard to be when your suffering inside.

Scotman · Sep 21, 2019

glimmerman said:
Let me just say that I am VERY familiar with your sons situation. Mental health is treated with a broad brush and is frowned upon even though they try to make it look different. Your son has to try to keep his mind occupied with different things he enjoys. Happy is hard to be when your suffering inside.

Amen. I wish you weren't familiar with this type of situation. I truly do.

It did make me a better educator, though. Over the years I met and worked with a lot of kids that were dealing with issues that made things tough. Even as the superintendent, I was to go-to guy in my small district. I was the one the kids came to and I'm thankful I was able to help. The cost for having the experience to help wasn't worth it, but I'm glad that I was able...if that makes any sense.

Hadenough · Sep 21, 2019

Jerry likes to help drug addicts instead of players with attitude issues. Taco supposedly tweeted negative things about Jerry and Stephen.

FLCowboyFan · Sep 21, 2019

DCreppinBoysfan said:
You really believe that’s the only reason we haven’t cut him?!?!

Assuming this is an honest question. Here is my take. Gregory works his butt off when he is on the field. No matter if that is in practice or in a game. Taco from the accounts would make a mistake and let it get in his head. Stop working his butt off and sulk. So that means that he isn't coachable unless you can somehow get him to move on past it. Then when he didn't just get handed the starting job that got in his head. So he sulked more and couldn't get past it. If you had an employee who worked for you like that you would eventually tire of it.

I’m really irritated by the hypocrisy of Gregory on the roster while Charlton is gone

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