Baldinger: Help LG Connor Williams early and often

Flamma

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He's full of crap!! He just has to find something. Look around the league, this kid would start on most teams. Stop drinking the hate juice.

Yeah sometimes it gets ridiculous. How did Donald do last year in the playoffs against him? Was he helped out all game? I know he's not Martin, but he's not garbage either.
 

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He's full of crap!! He just has to find something. Look around the league, this kid would start on most teams. Stop drinking the hate juice.

LOL...Conner Williams is a drive killer.....w/ his stupid penalties. We have just got lucky the first 2 weeks that we have been playing crap teams. Come playoff time...you just can't have that guy...that continues to be a liability. Better to make the change now...and build some continuity in the O-line. Funny thing is..same thing happened last year. CW was killing us...we replaced him w/ Filo...and then we went on a win streak.
 

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LOL...Conner Williams is a drive killer.....w/ his stupid penalties. We have just got lucky the first 2 weeks that we have been playing crap teams. Come playoff time...you just can't have that guy...that continues to be a liability. Better to make the change now...and build some continuity in the O-line. Funny thing is..same thing happened last year. CW was killing us...we replaced him w/ Filo...and then we went on a win streak.
His OC is not smart enough to scheme for a line weakness. Shifting and running around before the snap is fine, but a truly great OC can cover for a line weakness. That's what you get for getting an OC from a Jr. College. Boise is a Jr. College, right? Lol!!!
 

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With sooner they move Williams to tackle the better he can work Behind Tyson for a year until he retires.

I know I'm going to get grief for this but it's time to replace Colombo. a good OL coach can build a unit . I see flaws in technique, and I'm just not seeing it out of Mark
If Callahan was coaching this group they would be the number one force in the league
Yes, he has that Washington unit setting the world on fire.....

:rolleyes:
 

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Williams is talented and has upside. But if he doesn’t show more improvement by mid-season, I would consider bringing in Xavier Sua’filo to see if he’s an upgrade. Connor Williams probably wouldn’t have a leash this long if he wasn’t a second round pick.

I’m not at all suggesting he’s a bust or that he should be cut. But I am saying that if he doesn’t improve he shouldn’t be starting.
I agree, Also we fans are generalising , we need to see all 60 plays to pass assessment , just not a few he gets beaten badly , he is only in his 2nd season. Not all the issues are being under powered, for ex. That interception play, he was not beaten by power , for all his technical soundness , he got beaten by the swam move and Payne got into backfield in a jiffy, Williams didnt have the recognition nor recovery.
 

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-...terception-of-2019-against-Commanders-defense

Look where the problem starts. #52.
That can't be, according to this forum he only had like 2 or 3 bad plays all game !!!! :rolleyes: (I didn't realize 2 penalties, a sack, 4 QB pressures one of which caused a pick, couple missed assignments on run blocking is "uh he had 2 maybe 3 bad plays all game" ).

He's not the absolute worst but he's going to get burned 1 on 1 versus competent DT's (the amount of chips/help from Frederick will increase on weeks where there's bad matchups).
 

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That can't be, according to this forum he only had like 2 or 3 bad plays all game !!!! :rolleyes: (2 penalties, a sack, 4 QB pressures one of which caused a pick, couple missed assignments on run blocking).

He's not the absolute worst but he's going to get burned 1 on 1 versus competent DT's (the amount of chips/help from Frederick will increase on weeks where there's bad matchups).

He's the weak link on this offensive line.

Fact.
 

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How can Connor Williams suck when the Cowboys have given up only 8 pressures total through 2 games??

I mean sure you can say he’s the weak link, but he’s been every bit as good as other quality guards in the NFL.
 

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LOL...Conner Williams is a drive killer.....w/ his stupid penalties. We have just got lucky the first 2 weeks that we have been playing crap teams. Come playoff time...you just can't have that guy...that continues to be a liability. Better to make the change now...and build some continuity in the O-line. Funny thing is..same thing happened last year. CW was killing us...we replaced him w/ Filo...and then we went on a win streak.
And you’re a troll who has never posted a single comment that wasn’t whining about something. You are probably deluded enough to think you accomplish something. Either that, or it’s the only way you can get attention.
 

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3) DALLAS COWBOYS: Help LG Connor Williams early and often.


Kellen Moore and Dak Prescott are the toast of the newly minted NFL season, and rightfully so. But if Moore and Prescott are looking at their dynamic offense truthfully right now, the pair realizes there is an area that needs addressing, because everyone knows a team is only as strong as its weakest link. Second-year left guard Connor Williams does a lot of really good things and has steadily improved over two seasons, but in the NFC, he could face the likes of Aaron Donald, DeForest Buckner, Fletcher Cox and Akiem Hicks in playoff matchups. And let's face it: The Cowboys' goal is the Super Bowl, and the better the competition gets, the more mistakes get magnified.

Last week, Williams was flagged for a hold and a false start. I saw poor pass sets lead to a sack by Daron Payne, and Williams was beaten on the play where Prescott threw his only INT of the season. Williams is young and talented, so I don't think a position change is imminent. But he must improve -- and Moore must keep the left guard in mind when it comes to his formations and play calls. I saw Moore give Williams some help vs. the Commanders in Week 2, when Jason Witten hovered around the guard before running his pass route, and when the Cowboys used play-action to slow down the pass rush, and when Ezekiel Elliott hesitated at the line before he checked out into his pattern.

These were all positive signs, but getting Williams help earlier is the key. Moore can't wait until the Cowboys give up the lead or commit a turnover.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...three-other-nfl-teams-can-be-better-in-week-3

So talent issues can be addressed by coaching? We don't have to have elite talent at every position? You don't say! I know this will make a lot of yall happy to read--the negative aspects of Connor Williams--but I take this as a positive and I still believe Williams can and will develop into an elite lineman.
 

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Filo works best in an injury emergency basis. He can be handy for a game or two, but you don't want him starting in a string of games, where his lack of stamina
and composure starts taking a toll and he wears down , which means more lapses in pass protection (sacks) and penalties .

Actually many thought it would be Xavier Filo that would be on the 53 roster cut bubble, with the addition of Connor McGovern who
would likely be the 3rd OG and key backup, and then the likes of Looney who plays both center and OG as well as Redmon who also can play both C/OG.
But with McGovern's pectoral injury, (and likely to miss this year) it was clear that Filo's experience was very much needed, and then add that to the concerns
of Zack Martin's back.

with Conner being the better pass blocker and the far more invested player, it's not likely Filo is going to be a threat to replace Conner W.
as i saw with Payne and the issues Connor was having in preseason, it was not for a lack of strength, but more so a lack of technique. for whatever
reasons Conner is having issues with hand placement, basically hes' late putting his dukes up quickly in place and he's getting beat
with manuevers. and that's also leading to penalties whether false starts or holding.
 

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The referees are calling more holding plays this season than ever before they discuss this in last night's game against the Jaguars and Titans. His long as they're consistent I have no problem with it. Green Bay gets away with it more than any of the team in the league and I'm tired of it
Have you watched the Patriots?
 

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Funny, Williams strikes me as being SIGNIFICANTLY improved from his rookie season - the plays Baldi points out are probably the majority of his poor ones and there were many solid Williams snaps in both games so far this year. IMHO So far, Williams is more consistent and having far fewer mistakes or instances of purely being beaten than last year. BUT, the reason it stands out, is that Tyron, Freebeard, and Martin (except for maybe the first 15 minutes of game 1) have been AMAZING for the most part. AND THEN - maybe the most improved and looking far more agile and smoother in his footwork is Collins - he really has stepped up under a new contract, whereas actually one might normally worried about a guy mailing it in after signing a rich new deal. So, yeah, Williams might stick out as a bit of a less-strong link of the group for moment, relative to his own oline team-mates. Relative to rest of league, I would guess Williams is guaranteed starter and low worry for coaches on 25 other teams....Sua'filo didn't look as good in pre-season and got quite a few snaps. Might have been talent around him to some degree although Looney and Flemming and a few others played with him quite a bit....but I think Williams has WAY more talent and upside - whereas Sua is more of a brawler (like him as a back-up). 2 games into his 2nd season, with progress he has shown and effort he made to increase his strength and size - I think Williams will be fine, and a solid part of line for years to come. Not sure Looney would be be better either, as much as I like him. William's footwork and movement is pretty hard to find among the big guys - and he has proven he is working on his power......give him a bit more rope.
 

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And you’re a troll who has never posted a single comment that wasn’t whining about something. You are probably deluded enough to think you accomplish something. Either that, or it’s the only way you can get attention.

Why do you call me a troll when you know everything I post is true? It's not easy coaching this team from my couch. It's a process. It took me ten years to finally get the GM to hire the right offensive coordinator. Now I'm working on the defense. Patience grasshopper....:)
 

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Why do you call me a troll when you know everything I post is true? It's not easy coaching this team from my couch. It's a process. It took me ten years to finally get the GM to hire the right offensive coordinator. Now I'm working on the defense. Patience grasshopper....:)

If everything you post was true the team would go 0-16.
 
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