Video: Troy mans up and shows he has the juevos to admit he was wrong

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I like how Troy gave Dak credit for his hardwork and determination, instead of saying it was all Kitna. Saying this, because I've seen too many threads here praising Kitna for Dak's hardwork.

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Several posters here, and we all know who they are, don’t have the balls to admit when they are wrong. But Troy does

The writer/speaker implies. The reader/listener infers. Your inference is wrong. Troy did not admit to being wrong about anything. As for the accuracy issue, far more posters here were correct in stating accuracy can be taught as opposed to troy.
 

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Several posters here, and we all know who they are, don’t have the balls to admit when they are wrong. But Troy does

Your daily Dak post, Dak looks great to this point but Troy didn't say he was wrong he did say Dak is a different QB this year, never was a question of getting paid as JJ said he would, now the question is can he play this good against good teams not the scrub teams. Still say let him play the year out and see if this is real. Dak as a person was never in question just his skill set.
 

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That didn't mean that he was a great QB. Many feel that Zeke should have been ORotY in 2016, but expectations were much lower for Dak and he had a terrific rookie year (and he was rewarded because of those lower expectations over Zeke, who everybody expected to be great).

Bottom line was that Dak put up strong numbers in a simplistic system (that primarily featured a running game short passing game) as he was surrounded by exceptional talent on the line and complementary skill players. This was a huge part of his success in 2016. He still was plagued by inconsistent throws, poor fundamentals etc. What Dak did show was his off the charts intangibles that allowed him to make some clutch plays, but to me, 2016 Dak was more about the talent around him than the player himself. To me, since that point, Dak has only been as good as the team around him (I never felt that his talent elevated the teams in 2017 or 2018). Now after watching the first three games of the season, I'm beginning to feel differently.

Any honest observer can see how Dak has not only drastically improved from 2016, but drastically improved from the beginning of last season. His approach this season is much better too. For Dak, something seemed to click for him and he's finally playing the position the right way. Between the hard work and the apparent epihpany, I think Dak is now playing the game at a level that's comparable with some of the elite QBs in the league. At this rate, hopefully he'll be one soon.
:facepalm: Dak was sacked 56 times last year. Second only to Watson. Improvement is not always visible to arm chair fans. They turn a blind eye to everything except stats.
 

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I respect that you don't hold a grudge, and every situation is a new one
I still have a group of about 10 Marine buddies from the 70’s. We rag on each other constantly but are best buddies forever. Respect your service. We have strong convictions so there will be times when we disagree vehemently. But guys don’t hold grudges normally and can move on.
 

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He didn't admit anything, just kind of jumped on board because Prescott is obviously better this season. You can tell because the very small but vocal group of haters are nowhere to be found.
I disagreed with Aikman's take on accuracy because it's just simply incorrect.
 

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Troy did not flat out come out and say he was wrong . but after saying as far as accuracy you either have it or you dont last year . This year he said the QUESTION was we needed to see more in the passing game and HES DONE THAT. He is a different GUY NOW !!!

Hes done that and he is a different guy now means HIS ACCURACY HAS IMPROVED !!! He dosent have to use the exact words I WAS WRONG . to get the point across that circumstances alter cases and in DAKS case he was hasty in his judgement about Daks ability to improve his accuracy.

Troy said the time he put in in the off season on getting his timing and foot work right has paid off

In short even people with the worst comprehension skill can listen to that interview and understand that Troy is saying his off season program improved his ACCURACY . something Troy didnt believe could happen but did .

What one man can do another can do IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH and Dak wants to be the best he can be
 
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Where did Troy say he was wrong? He said Dak is a different guy this year: better footwork; better timing (always had the intangibles).

You want Troy to say he was wrong because that would mean you weren’t. It’s not ok to put words in his mouth to get you there.
that's been the point. the dak lover crowd takes any little criticism of Dak as you are a hater and they look at this as redemption. outside of a few who didn't like Dak, most here pointed to areas he needs to improve, myself included. and if you go back to may posts in the past year and over the summer, I pointed to his bad footwork as main cause of his accuracy issues. I was happy we got Kitna who worked on his fundamentals. and you can clearly see that he has changed his footwork, his release point is much more consistent and he trusts his throws this year, as last year he didn't trust himself in certain situations.
but hey, Dak lover crowd is going to take this as a criticism and they want redemption....nothing will satisfy them and they will take any little thing that's positively said about Dak as people eating crow....its almost too funny.
 

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Intangibles are what make the good ones great, but can't make the mediocre ones great. Dak was blessed with a world of talent around him his rookie season, but played inconsistently. I never doubted Dak's intangibles. My only concern was his ability to make acurate throws, his technique, throwing with anticipation (etc.). Up to this point in his career, Dak had not improved much in any of these areas. This season, however, Dak has shown great improvement in all areas. He's not quite there yet, but he's really close to matching his physical talent and intangibles to his technique and approach to the position. When he completes this journey, he might be the best QB in the league.
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but to the Dak lovers what you just said is criticism...its 100% or you are a hater.... I don't get it.
 

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Dak is the same. The Offensive line with Frederick so far is a LOT better. The WR's from the start of last year to this year are a LOT better. Any Qb that has that much time in the pocket can set his feet and not worry about getting hit & stepping into the throws downfield with multiple WR's wide open on every play.... ANY QB that has made it to the NFL can do that. Watch the plays where dak is pressured even a little.... his footwork goes bad and his accuracy goes with it.

Also keep in mind the Cowboy's are 3-0 because they have played the 3 worst teams in the league with the 3 worst Defenses.... If they were playing a good team last week on the road... they lose.

You guys rip on the QB when he sucks & think he is the greatest when he plays well.... It's a team sport. Put Dak on a real crappy team and see what he does. As long as Dallas can field a great team around him. Dak will play just fine. Next game that Dak plays bad do not over react and say he sucks..... how did the guys around him play?
I think its a combination of several things. yes, having Fredrick back is helpful. he is getting less pressure. yes, having Cooper from beginning of the season is helpful. yes, Moore has changed the offense. but Dak is also better. his footwork is much improved, leading to more accurate throws. the three games I have watched, he is throwing with more anticipation and he trusts himself to make throws with anticipation and last year he didn't have that. his release has been much more consistent as a result of his footwork and its good that we have had three easy games to start, and let him get that down in game situation which is different than practice. hopefully he will continue as games get tougher...
 

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I still have a group of about 10 Marine buddies from the 70’s. We rag on each other constantly but are best buddies forever. Respect your service. We have strong convictions so there will be times when we disagree vehemently. But guys don’t hold grudges normally and can move on.
I call it rolling on the ground.. get out of your system and you move on. Thank you for your service my cowboy brother you gained another level of respect. Vietnam era veteran I am. This is how men should handle things
 

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but to the Dak lovers what you just said is criticism...its 100% or you are a hater.... I don't get it.
Who cares about the crowd. I am an individual, just because I critique, a player does not mean I am a Homer, or a hater. But I get what you mean. How dare you say something negative LMAO I've been at Prescott bandwagon since his first game against Seattle preseason. season. I kept saying he was a product of the system it's what we do not what we can do. I don't know how people didn't see that. Go Cowboys
 

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We will see when we face a half decent team.

That's the real test
 

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I still have a group of about 10 Marine buddies from the 70’s. We rag on each other constantly but are best buddies forever. Respect your service. We have strong convictions so there will be times when we disagree vehemently. But guys don’t hold grudges normally and can move on.
Shut upa ur mouth
 

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Where did Troy say he was wrong? He said Dak is a different guy this year: better footwork; better timing (always had the intangibles).

You want Troy to say he was wrong because that would mean you weren’t. It’s not ok to put words in his mouth to get you there.
Troy was wrong and he always will be if his take doesn't change on QB criterion.
Accuracy is not the primary factor in QB success, talent or rating.
It is is knowing where to go with the football.

Troy was terrible as a rookie and it wasn't because he was inaccurate, it was because he didn't know where to go with the ball.

Tom Brady is not that accurate. His accuracy ratings are actually surprisingly low. But he ALWAYS knows where to go with the ball. P Manning? Same thing.

Processing information and preparedness are key.
Put those behind only clutch/pressure performance, availability and leadership.

Accuracy might be about the 4th most key trait for a successful QB.

Professional WRs have large catch radius. If you get the guy open the ball he can adjust and catch it.
If you throw it into double coverage or to a guy with stone hands, it doesn't likely matter where you place it.

Most QBs go through periods in games where they aren't in sync and throw some bad incompletions. The team punts and they live to figjht another series.
That's not bad but common.
 

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The three defenses Dallas has played have gotten lit up by every offense they've faced. That includes Tampa, Buffalo, Baltimore, Philly, New England, and Chicago.

New Orleans and Green Bay have pretty good defenses. We'll have a much better feel soon.

I don't expect receivers to be running free wide open all game the next two weeks.

I do like that 9 different players have splash plays of 20 yards or more. Makes the Cowboys very hard to gameplan for.

Watching the Ravens and KC I saw a lot of WR running wide open. Not every pass that Dak has thrown as been to a wide open WR but fact is WR around the league do find ways to get wide open normally vs Zones where they can get into the seams of the zone coverage or man where they flat out beat their man.
 
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