For those saying good game defense

GenoT · Sep 30, 2019

The defense gave up 12pts — 6 of which were directly affected by offensive screwups.

The offense completely choked; insomuch as posting even HALF of their so-far season average woulda won that game.

Sarge · Sep 30, 2019

Defense was not the reason we lost. If you can't score 13 points on offense you're pretty awful.

kramskoi · Sep 30, 2019

BrassCowboy said:
Our best defense last night came by the refs. IMO

Our defense never tightened up til the redzone and even then it relied on several holding calls on Saints online to kill their drives.

All i am saying is dline is weak at the point of attack and it showed. Need to be more aggressive and tighten up against the run. The confusion saints played and the ability of Kamara was killing our defense.

This makes absolutely no sense. Holding calls are usually the result of an offensive lineman or two trying too hard to keep their quarterback clean. The offense went AWOL in New Orleans. That's the story. The defense pitched a touchdown shutout...that...even with two Dallas turnovers. Good grief.

Ken · Sep 30, 2019

Praxit said:
..They got 4 FG's. How many teams would love to taste that?

We LET THEM have 266 total yards! That is simply unacceptable!

doomsday9084 · Sep 30, 2019

Unfortunately, the defensive game plan is to let opposing teams get 5 yards at a time until they shoot themselves in the foot. Basically, if Marinelli were to draw up what a perfect game looks like, it would be last night.

And yeah, if not for the refs NO would have put a much bigger number on the board. Of course, that's true for Dallas too. The calls last night were soooo ticky tack.

ABQCOWBOY · Sep 30, 2019

Sarge said:
Defense was not the reason we lost. If you can't score 13 points on offense you're pretty awful.

Played in a game like that in HS. We lost 8 to 6 and on the bus ride home, a lot of guys were complaining about calls and non calls and just all the usual BS. Our Coach stopped the bus and had the driver pull over. He basically said exactly the same thing Sarge. Which one of you guys stepped up and made a play to get us into FG range? Which one of you guys stepped up and made the play to stop the TD they scored? Which one of you guys stepped up to stop the 2 pt conversion? We got held to two FGs, who stepped up and got 1st down in the Red Zone or made a play to get a TD? You lost by two point, if you can't figure out a way to get 2 pts, then you didn't want it bad enough.

Got kinda quiet from there but hey, he wasn't wrong.

TheTruthIsOutThere · Sep 30, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
I can't blame a defense that only gave up 12 points.

The offense stunk up the place but that 3rd quarter drive they gave up killed us after we scored a TD. I know they only gave up the FG but they couldn't get off the field on 3rd down most of the game.

DuncanIso · Sep 30, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
I can't blame a defense that only gave up 12 points.

I guess.

It was almost more than 12 pts.

Saints should have scored at least 2 TDs.

The biggest problem was the TOP. They had the ball 2-to-1 over us.

texbumthelife · Sep 30, 2019

I just don't understand why, when we look so good blitzing, we refuse to do it more. They ran that three-man line with Jaylon blitzing a few times and it was money every time. That even allows us to keep all our DBs in the game.

The greatest issue with this defense is how risk averse it is. It's the same issue that plagued Linehan/Garrett offenses.

HappyOnions · Sep 30, 2019

The defense played well and gave the offense a chance to drive down into FG range with 1:45 on the clock. No excuses.

DuncanIso · Sep 30, 2019

texbumthelife said:
I just don't understand why, when we look so good blitzing, we refuse to do it more. They ran that three-man line with Jaylon blitzing a few times and it was money every time. That even allows us to keep all our DBs in the game.

The greatest issue with this defense is how risk averse it is. It's the same issue that plagued Linehan/Garrett offenses.

Marinelli likes the BBDB scheme.

Give up yards, not points.

hornitosmonster · Sep 30, 2019

Proof said:
you act like they got ran over. kamara had 69 yards on 4.1 ypc. the team as a whole had 117. there were like two solid runs, the 12 yard carry from kamara that was followed by the 16 yarder from taysom. that's really it.

Agree, 12 points and no TD's to a Saints team is pretty good...even without Brees

noshame · Sep 30, 2019

2 fumbles and a home clock operator cost us the game.

Doomsday · Sep 30, 2019

nightrain said:
Been playing that style of D for quiet a while. It works pretty well when your offense can score more than a dozen points.

Unless you are playing a team like the Rams who can finish in the red zone.

DuncanIso · Sep 30, 2019

HappyOnions said:
The defense played well and gave the offense a chance to drive down into FG range with 1:45 on the clock. No excuses.

I dont think they played well.

Too many penalites.

Too many long drives.

It was the perfect BBDB defense though.

Give up yards and clock. Dont give up points.

Kaiser · Sep 30, 2019

BigTimeBlues said:
The officiating was garbage on both sides, imho

He's trying to sound intelligent by arguing against a point no one made. Which, by the way, is his only hope.

jnday · Sep 30, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
I can't blame a defense that only gave up 12 points.

Anybody blaming the defense is looking to divert the attention away from the real reasons why they lost. Those reasons are in the offensive side of the ball.

jnday · Sep 30, 2019

ABQCOWBOY said:
This game was not on the Defense. That's all I have on that.

There is nothing more needed. 12 points says all we need to know.

CowboyRoy · Sep 30, 2019

BrassCowboy said:
Our best defense last night came by the refs. IMO

Our defense never tightened up til the redzone and even then it relied on several holding calls on Saints online to kill their drives.

All i am saying is dline is weak at the point of attack and it showed. Need to be more aggressive and tighten up against the run. The confusion saints played and the ability of Kamara was killing our defense.

Sean Payton is a quality coach. His game plan was tailored made to exploit our weakness on defense and keep our powerful offense off the field.

They basically ran Kamara straight up the middle into our weak DT's and exploited our middle run defense. They were happy take the underneath stuff and eat up the clock.

The problem was that Moore made sure our high octane offense took the night off and played right into their hands running Zeke up the middle relentlessly.

The most troubling part of all this was that we saw no adjustments whatsoever at halftime or otherwise.

Several of us discussed this during the weak. Game plan should have been to open up with the passing game and bring in the run once we got a nice lead.

Runwildboys · Sep 30, 2019

BrassCowboy said:
Yeah as if the answer is that simple.

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