Dak, proves he's average. Needs to be paid so **merged**

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18 pg’s what’s the consensus here?

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If you're not new here you already know how these threads go that's the consensus
 

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Whatever Dak's level, you don't sign a quarterback to an average contract. You either have the guy and pay him accordingly or you don't.
 

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Ok, just so I can make sure we are on the same page... When the Cowboys win a game, it is either because they played a weak team, or the players around Dak carried him? But... When the Cowboys lose a game, it's Dak's fault because he is below average? Forget about fumbles, missed blocking assignments, penalties, dropped passes, etc. See, the problem I have with some of the Dak haters, is they always have an excuse as to why Dak shouldn't get any credit for the win, but they always give Dak "FULL" credit for the loss. The other problem I have with some of the Dak haters, is when Dak is playing good, there is no sign of them or their Dak hating memes. In fact, some of them change their memes altogether. But... let Dak have a bad game, and they flood the board en masse. It seems a little cowardly to me. Of course, that might be the 22 year Army Ranger in me talking. I believe if you say something, be man enough to stand up and own it. Good or bad, Right or wrong... Own it. Don't say it, then hide until you can say,"See, I was right" or "See, I told you so". Dak might not be an elite QB, but he damn sure isn't the only reason the Cowboys lost to the Saints. Anyone laying the blame solely on Dak for that loss, knows absolutely nothing about football.
I have gave Dak credit when he has played well and I sure didn’t avoid posting. I have not left the board at all. Your whole post is based on assumptions and it doesn’t apply to me this time. I will say that us Dak haters have every right to call out, embarrass and humiliate the Dak lovers considering the amount of personal insults that the Dak lovers have thrown our way, but we have never rubbed it in too bad. We have more class than that. There is two or three of the Dak lovers that takes things entirely too far and insult our wives, mothers and families. They are low class, emotional jerks tbh.
 
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I have gave Dak credit when he has played well and I sure didn’t avoid posting. I have not left the board at all. Your whole post is based on assumptions and it doesn’t apply to me this time. I will say that us Dak haters have every right to call out, embarrass and humiliate the Dak lovers considering the amount of personal insults that the Dak lovers have thrown our way, but we have never rubbed it in too bad. We have more class than that. There is two or three of the Dak lovers that takes things entirely too far and insult our wives, mothers and families. They are low class, emotional jerks tbh.

Actually, I wasn't talking about you. You have been one of the few who have continued to post and have actually given credit where credit was due. I'm fine with posters like you. At least you have the courage to stand by your convictions.The people whom I was referring to when I said "some of the Dak haters" know full well who they are. I have a sneaky suspicion you do as well. My post isn't based on any assumptions. It is based on facts and my opinion about certain posters. I asked 2 questions, then gave my opinion. In fact, I would defy you to show me one assumption I made about you in my post. You say "we" have every right to call out, embarrass, and humiliate Dak lovers. Then you go on to say "we" have never rubbed it in too bad, and "we" have more class than that. I suggest you change the "we" to "I" because some of the Dak haters have no class whatsoever. If anyone has insulted your wife, mother, or family, then I agree... they are jerks. But... don't try defending all the Dak haters, because some of them are no better then the Dak lovers. In fact, some are worse.
 

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Actually, I wasn't talking about you. You have been one of the few who have continued to post and have actually given credit where credit was due. I'm fine with posters like you. At least you have the courage to stand by your convictions.The people whom I was referring to when I said "some of the Dak haters" know full well who they are. I have a sneaky suspicion you do as well. My post isn't based on any assumptions. It is based on facts and my opinion about certain posters. I asked 2 questions, then gave my opinion. In fact, I would defy you to show me one assumption I made about you in my post. You say "we" have every right to call out, embarrass, and humiliate Dak lovers. Then you go on to say "we" have never rubbed it in too bad, and "we" have more class than that. I suggest you change the "we" to "I" because some of the Dak haters have no class whatsoever. If anyone has insulted your wife, mother, or family, then I agree... they are jerks. But... don't try defending all the Dak haters, because some of them are no better then the Dak lovers. In fact, some are worse.


Why are there only Dak haters?
Why aren't there Heath haters or D-Law haters or Zeke haters?
Why has Dak polarized this great hang out of ours?
Here's some info for you as you seem to be confused bud. It's not Hate it's called Critic and if we can't do that about anyone on the team then what are we here for? Use the Hate word as most Dak-Lovers do here but in the end, only Dak can silence the non-believers.
 

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If Dak would have threw an accurate pass to Cobb in the back of the end zone, Dallas would have won.
If he threw a more accurate pass to Cobb on the one he dropped it was a first down and more, likey a scoring drive. It’s gonna happen just like the Cooper drops. Our O-Line didn’t play the way they usually do.
 

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Whatever Dak's level, you don't sign a quarterback to an average contract. You either have the guy and pay him accordingly or you don't.

Im not following you here. Are you saying that a QBs output is irrelevant in estimating his salary? If you have a 17th ranked QBR from last season, wouldn't paying him an average QB salary mean that hes been paid him accordingly as you stated?. I dont want to misquote you here
 

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Actually, I wasn't talking about you. You have been one of the few who have continued to post and have actually given credit where credit was due. I'm fine with posters like you. At least you have the courage to stand by your convictions.The people whom I was referring to when I said "some of the Dak haters" know full well who they are. I have a sneaky suspicion you do as well. My post isn't based on any assumptions. It is based on facts and my opinion about certain posters. I asked 2 questions, then gave my opinion. In fact, I would defy you to show me one assumption I made about you in my post. You say "we" have every right to call out, embarrass, and humiliate Dak lovers. Then you go on to say "we" have never rubbed it in too bad, and "we" have more class than that. I suggest you change the "we" to "I" because some of the Dak haters have no class whatsoever. If anyone has insulted your wife, mother, or family, then I agree... they are jerks. But... don't try defending all the Dak haters, because some of them are no better then the Dak lovers. In fact, some are worse.

I can only speak for myself but I dont dislike a single person in this forum, (even the guy that called me a blown out rectum). Sure I may have fun with a couple of the Messiahs sycophants but its just business, never personal. I would hate to think that during the Romo debates that his detractors were actually rooting for him and the Cowboys to fail. Seems way too counterproductive. when we havent sniffed a SB in 25 years
 

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The main area I want to see addressed is when a good defense game plans to stop Zeke, I want to see Dak make them pay. If hes still under duress, make the necessary changes to get blocking or get him out of the pocket......we should have the personnel to make this happen. When Dakota can overcome this area I don't think there will be any room for doubt.

When I saw Zeke getting shut down Sunday and us not responding through the pass, it felt exactly like the Broncos game a couple seasons but that was a much better pass rush with Von Miller.........we need to get over this hump

and the line and Zeke both bare equal responsibility
 

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Why are there only Dak haters?
Why aren't there Heath haters or D-Law haters or Zeke haters?
Why has Dak polarized this great hang out of ours?
Here's some info for you as you seem to be confused bud. It's not Hate it's called Critic and if we can't do that about anyone on the team then what are we here for? Use the Hate word as most Dak-Lovers do here but in the end, only Dak can silence the non-believers.

1. There aren't only Dak haters. Never said there was.
2. There are Heath haters, D-Law haters, and Zeke haters. Unfortunately, this post was about Dak, not any of the others. So, I didn't address any of those.
3. Dak has polarized this hang out because of posters like you and a couple others.
4. I'm not your bud. I wouldn't know you if I passed you on the street and said hello. I can count my true friends on less than both hands. But they have proven they will go to battle with me, and die for me if necessary. I feel the same about them.
5. What you do isn't critique. Look up the definition. The only part of the definition of a critic that you fall under is; one given to harsh or captious judgment. If captious is a word you are unfamiliar with, it is defined as; tending to find fault or raise petty objections. Marked by an often ill-natured inclination to stress faults and raise objections. If you were really just a critic, you would critique Dak fairly instead of the one-sided BS you have been doing.
6. A better way to define you is Internet Troll: a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages.
7. Before the season started, this board had to put up with your diatribe against Dak. This board also had to put up with your Dak memes. You know, like the one with Zeke and the o-line pulling Dak in a wagon. Then the season starts and Dak is posting great stats. (Even if the competition wasn't play-off caliber) What happens? You change your meme to one of Joe Looney and quietly disappear. Next, the Cowboys lose a game to the Saints. What do you know!! Here you come... rushing back with a new Dak meme saying,"Y'all got any more of those crappy teams?". I wonder why the old bike meme didn't go back up... OH, that's right... It's because your man Zeke and the o-line stunk it up worse than Dak did. Then, when you get called on it, your response was,"I wasn't hiding. I just wasn't going to participate in your fantasy outlook". What you should have said was,"I didn't have anything to whine about, so there was no sense in me posting. But now, since the Cowboys have lost, I can come back and start blaming Dak again".
Your last sentence is the best of all of them though. "Only Dak can silence the non-believers". This is BS and you know it. Even if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, you will be right here saying it was because Zeke, Gallup, Cooper, the o-line, and the defense carried Dak across the finish line.
Your true colors were revealed a long time ago. You live for the Cowboys to lose so you can ride in here like the conquering hero, waving your BS. "I told you so" flag proudly above your head.
 

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1. There aren't only Dak haters. Never said there was.
2. There are Heath haters, D-Law haters, and Zeke haters. Unfortunately, this post was about Dak, not any of the others. So, I didn't address any of those.
3. Dak has polarized this hang out because of posters like you and a couple others.
4. I'm not your bud. I wouldn't know you if I passed you on the street and said hello. I can count my true friends on less than both hands. But they have proven they will go to battle with me, and die for me if necessary. I feel the same about them.
5. What you do isn't critique. Look up the definition. The only part of the definition of a critic that you fall under is; one given to harsh or captious judgment. If captious is a word you are unfamiliar with, it is defined as; tending to find fault or raise petty objections. Marked by an often ill-natured inclination to stress faults and raise objections. If you were really just a critic, you would critique Dak fairly instead of the one-sided BS you have been doing.
6. A better way to define you is Internet Troll: a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages.
7. Before the season started, this board had to put up with your diatribe against Dak. This board also had to put up with your Dak memes. You know, like the one with Zeke and the o-line pulling Dak in a wagon. Then the season starts and Dak is posting great stats. (Even if the competition wasn't play-off caliber) What happens? You change your meme to one of Joe Looney and quietly disappear. Next, the Cowboys lose a game to the Saints. What do you know!! Here you come... rushing back with a new Dak meme saying,"Y'all got any more of those crappy teams?". I wonder why the old bike meme didn't go back up... OH, that's right... It's because your man Zeke and the o-line stunk it up worse than Dak did. Then, when you get called on it, your response was,"I wasn't hiding. I just wasn't going to participate in your fantasy outlook". What you should have said was,"I didn't have anything to whine about, so there was no sense in me posting. But now, since the Cowboys have lost, I can come back and start blaming Dak again".
Your last sentence is the best of all of them though. "Only Dak can silence the non-believers". This is BS and you know it. Even if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, you will be right here saying it was because Zeke, Gallup, Cooper, the o-line, and the defense carried Dak across the finish line.
Your true colors were revealed a long time ago. You live for the Cowboys to lose so you can ride in here like the conquering hero, waving your BS. "I told you so" flag proudly above your head.

Dear Sir, may I frame this?
 

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I can only speak for myself but I dont dislike a single person in this forum, (even the guy that called me a blown out rectum). Sure I may have fun with a couple of the Messiahs sycophants but its just business, never personal. I would hate to think that during the Romo debates that his detractors were actually rooting for him and the Cowboys to fail. Seems way too counterproductive. when we havent sniffed a SB in 25 years

Well said. That is why I like posters like you and jnday. You guys come on here, state your opinion, defend it if necessary, but at the end of the day, you are both fair and willing to look at both sides.
 

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Don't say it's one game.

He beat up and bullied easy teams. As soon as a real big dog comes around, he bends and folds.

I been saying we better not handicap ourselves to this fool.

I hope you all see it now.
This was my argument all summer so n paying him what Foles made but now that line is crossed.
When Dak gets paid it will be similar to what the Rams feel about Goff. I think we have reached a point with QB contracts where only the elite ones make sense. No One cares that Wilson or Brees or Rodgers make 35 plus because they are worth it.
Show me one Vikings fan that likes the Cousins deal.
 

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1. There aren't only Dak haters. Never said there was.
2. There are Heath haters, D-Law haters, and Zeke haters. Unfortunately, this post was about Dak, not any of the others. So, I didn't address any of those.
3. Dak has polarized this hang out because of posters like you and a couple others.
4. I'm not your bud. I wouldn't know you if I passed you on the street and said hello. I can count my true friends on less than both hands. But they have proven they will go to battle with me, and die for me if necessary. I feel the same about them.
5. What you do isn't critique. Look up the definition. The only part of the definition of a critic that you fall under is; one given to harsh or captious judgment. If captious is a word you are unfamiliar with, it is defined as; tending to find fault or raise petty objections. Marked by an often ill-natured inclination to stress faults and raise objections. If you were really just a critic, you would critique Dak fairly instead of the one-sided BS you have been doing.
6. A better way to define you is Internet Troll: a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages.
7. Before the season started, this board had to put up with your diatribe against Dak. This board also had to put up with your Dak memes. You know, like the one with Zeke and the o-line pulling Dak in a wagon. Then the season starts and Dak is posting great stats. (Even if the competition wasn't play-off caliber) What happens? You change your meme to one of Joe Looney and quietly disappear. Next, the Cowboys lose a game to the Saints. What do you know!! Here you come... rushing back with a new Dak meme saying,"Y'all got any more of those crappy teams?". I wonder why the old bike meme didn't go back up... OH, that's right... It's because your man Zeke and the o-line stunk it up worse than Dak did. Then, when you get called on it, your response was,"I wasn't hiding. I just wasn't going to participate in your fantasy outlook". What you should have said was,"I didn't have anything to whine about, so there was no sense in me posting. But now, since the Cowboys have lost, I can come back and start blaming Dak again".
Your last sentence is the best of all of them though. "Only Dak can silence the non-believers". This is BS and you know it. Even if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, you will be right here saying it was because Zeke, Gallup, Cooper, the o-line, and the defense carried Dak across the finish line.
Your true colors were revealed a long time ago. You live for the Cowboys to lose so you can ride in here like the conquering hero, waving your BS. "I told you so" flag proudly above your head.
:hammer:

That nail was hit with a sledge hammer.
 
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