Dak Prescott: From Game Manager to Gunslinger

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Coop needs to make that catch. No doubt.
If the pass is led to him it’s more likely he catches on stride and scores.

Part of getting behind is on defense much like with Romo. My biggest concern is how much these better teams totally take us out of what we want to do.

We came out passing this year. Looking to show teams that we will beat you in the air. It looked promising till the saints game. Fumble in the air and one on the ground. The media shows a lot of Daks worse plays but not many of his good ones. I am hoping this team can turn things around. Looks more and more like that egirls game will be huge.
 

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We came out passing this year. Looking to show teams that we will beat you in the air. It looked promising till the saints game. Fumble in the air and one on the ground. The media shows a lot of Daks worse plays but not many of his good ones. I am hoping this team can turn things around. Looks more and more like that egirls game will be huge.

The media had Dak as MVP through 3 weeks. They certainly were showing his best plays. They tend to drown out critics.
 

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The defense is just not good. Same issues Tony Romo had. They have to play really well to overcome our defensive struggles. Would be nice to get some pick sixes or something. :rolleyes:
 

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I think Dak is fine when we’re in the lead or the game is close but when there is no threat of a run and he has to air it out he looks awful.

I think the last couple of weeks put on full display how easy it is for the Cowboys castle to crumble.

I'm not so sure about this. When you're down 28 points there is no plan. Yet the Cowboys were coming back with time to spare. The INT on the Gallup throw was the killer. Even still, had our kicker not missed the first FG Dallas is right there to tie it up. So I don't think it's as bad as some think. But the Cowboys are playing sloppy, not just dak.

Look, this is what everyone wanted to see Dak do. Go down field over the middle. Air it out if need be. There are going to be growing pains just like with Romo early on. This is not what Dak is accustomed to and I seriously don't think he's doing a bad job. The gauntlet the Cowboys are going to go through after the Jets will tell us all we need to know. He may surprise you.
 

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The media had Dak as MVP through 3 weeks. They certainly were showing his best plays. They tend to drown out critics.

Well to be fair, he has quite a few great plays to show. He can launch a ball 50 yards and drop it right in the receiver's bread basket and have you jumping up and down, but then he'll throw behind a wide open receiver on a 15 yard pass and have you breaking ****. That's just Dak.
 

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One of the positives the past few years people often cite about Dak is that he is someone who doesn't consistently turn the ball over - outside of his fumble problems, 2016 and 2018 had low INT totals. So far in 2019, he hasn't fumbled the ball, but his interception projection is way up. Right now Precott is projected to have over 537 pass attempts, 5,000 yards passing, 35 TDs, and 19 INTs. When going through every QBs 2019 projections, he compares most to Jameis Winston's 2019 projection with 531 pass attempts, 4.387 yards, 35 TDs, and 16 INTs.

I think there are a couple problems here. 1. Kellen Moore's offense seems set up more for the big play rather than taking what the defense gives you 2. Dak is pressing, this could be due to over confidence or desperation to prove he's a Russell Wilson type talent, maybe both? I think the biggest problem here is, we now lost our identity on offense. In the past, we were known as a run first team. What are we now? We a pass first, run first, or a balanced offense? We are lacking an identity now because I don't think we are truly dominating in either the pass or the run, we now have defenses dictating what our offense can do.

The problem with Dak is that he hasn't taken that step and shown he is elite. Yes, his TD numbers are up, but his INT rates are as well. In previous years, his TD totals were low through the air, but so were his INTs. When compared, he's not there with elite QBs, he's there with the Alex Smiths/Mariotas/Winstons of the league. This is not a 30+ million dollar QB play. IF we had a smart owner, he'd be looking at Dak's gamble and seeing he is losing and be using this to his advantage.

I have to agree this offense takes more chances now and Dak looks like he is pressing and not comfortable again . IMO 3 of the INTs were not on him and 2 in the Packers game brought on a situation that made him press too much . Cooper should have caught that ball or knocked it down and Gallup should have got the benefit of PI. Both stopped drives and had a big impact on the game as did the fumbles in the previous game .

Dak dose a lot of good things but there is only so much he is capable of overcoming without pressing so much that he makes it worse . Dak is not an Elite QB but he is very good and has enough intangibles to get us to a SB . The guys you compared Dak to were all drafted #1 I believe or top 3 so realistically doing as well as these guys is an accomplishment since we got him in the 4th rd .

When you make no preparation to replace a QB with a mounting injury history and take a flyer on a guy to be his back up from the 4th round should we really expect him to be Elite or should we be happy he dose as well as he dose considering he is playing as well as guys drafted #1 in their class .

Bottom line when we break down and realize we need to use a high draft pick to HAVE A CHANCE ON AN ELITE QB and still there is no guarantee citing the guys you mentioned and many more we will have a right to be more critical of the player . As of now we are getting more than we paid for so we just have to deal with the warts because it dosent look like Jerry wants to gamble a top 5 pick in the draft if we could get one on a QB that could turn out to be like one of the 3 guys you mentioned
 

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Well to be fair, he has quite a few great plays to show. He can launch a ball 50 yards and drop it right in the receiver's bread basket and have you jumping up and down, but then he'll throw behind a wide open receiver on a 15 yard pass and have you breaking ****. That's just Dak.

....sounds like Jameis Winston
 

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One of the positives the past few years people often cite about Dak is that he is someone who doesn't consistently turn the ball over - outside of his fumble problems, 2016 and 2018 had low INT totals. So far in 2019, he hasn't fumbled the ball, but his interception projection is way up. Right now Precott is projected to have over 537 pass attempts, 5,000 yards passing, 35 TDs, and 19 INTs. When going through every QBs 2019 projections, he compares most to Jameis Winston's 2019 projection with 531 pass attempts, 4.387 yards, 35 TDs, and 16 INTs.

I think there are a couple problems here. 1. Kellen Moore's offense seems set up more for the big play rather than taking what the defense gives you 2. Dak is pressing, this could be due to over confidence or desperation to prove he's a Russell Wilson type talent, maybe both? I think the biggest problem here is, we now lost our identity on offense. In the past, we were known as a run first team. What are we now? We a pass first, run first, or a balanced offense? We are lacking an identity now because I don't think we are truly dominating in either the pass or the run, we now have defenses dictating what our offense can do.

The problem with Dak is that he hasn't taken that step and shown he is elite. Yes, his TD numbers are up, but his INT rates are as well. In previous years, his TD totals were low through the air, but so were his INTs. When compared, he's not there with elite QBs, he's there with the Alex Smiths/Mariotas/Winstons of the league. This is not a 30+ million dollar QB play. IF we had a smart owner, he'd be looking at Dak's gamble and seeing he is losing and be using this to his advantage.
Those projections are similar to Romo's 2007 season
 

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For 30+ million a year and 100 million Guaranteed (If it ever happens?), he better be more than what he is not a gunslinger!
 

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We can't let Zeke off the hook. The whole point in paying him $90 million is so that he can consistently churn out 4-6 yards per carry on the ground and let Dak be Dak. Elliott hasn't gotten it done at all this year.
 

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We wouldn't have felt we needed that unless we had a QB so dependent on that production.

A 1-9 record when Elliott is held to less than 75 yards is a telling stat.

We're 1-9 cause Dak is a Franchise QB....:oops:
 

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One of the positives the past few years people often cite about Dak is that he is someone who doesn't consistently turn the ball over - outside of his fumble problems, 2016 and 2018 had low INT totals. So far in 2019, he hasn't fumbled the ball, but his interception projection is way up. Right now Precott is projected to have over 537 pass attempts, 5,000 yards passing, 35 TDs, and 19 INTs. When going through every QBs 2019 projections, he compares most to Jameis Winston's 2019 projection with 531 pass attempts, 4.387 yards, 35 TDs, and 16 INTs.

I think there are a couple problems here. 1. Kellen Moore's offense seems set up more for the big play rather than taking what the defense gives you 2. Dak is pressing, this could be due to over confidence or desperation to prove he's a Russell Wilson type talent, maybe both? I think the biggest problem here is, we now lost our identity on offense. In the past, we were known as a run first team. What are we now? We a pass first, run first, or a balanced offense? We are lacking an identity now because I don't think we are truly dominating in either the pass or the run, we now have defenses dictating what our offense can do.

The problem with Dak is that he hasn't taken that step and shown he is elite. Yes, his TD numbers are up, but his INT rates are as well. In previous years, his TD totals were low through the air, but so were his INTs. When compared, he's not there with elite QBs, he's there with the Alex Smiths/Mariotas/Winstons of the league. This is not a 30+ million dollar QB play. IF we had a smart owner, he'd be looking at Dak's gamble and seeing he is losing and be using this to his advantage.
Your #1 is what I been arguing this year, especially with NO and GB games. He isn't taking what the defense gives him and from what I saw they give him a lot of short to intermediate But he chooses to go for it all
 

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The thing is, all Dak really has to do with this team is drive the bus.

People think of bus driver as a derogatory term. Because Bill Parcells used it for Quincy Carter.

But it's not actually a derogatory term. It's a type of player a lot of coaches like to have, and simply used as an expression.

You just need a guy to drive the bus, to get the rest of the team across the finish line or goal line, safely, i.e., for a win.

Smart coaches actually want a bus driver type, because they're low on turn overs.

Smart quarterbacks are cool with driving their team in the bus safely.

You don't have to be a pistolero to win.

You just need a guy to drive the bus.

That's all it means.

I honestly think Dak should get back to being the best bus driver he can be.

A win is a win is a win. If he can get back to doing that, he adds value as a player.

It doesn't have to be pretty and full of stats.

Just win.
 

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I think Dak is fine when we’re in the lead or the game is close but when there is no threat of a run and he has to air it out he looks awful.

I think the last couple of weeks put on full display how easy it is for the Cowboys castle to crumble.

 

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If youre gonna play that game then lets also factor in ints that defenses have dropped
You mean like every qb in the league?

The facts are...2-3 of Dak's ints on the books are dropped passes. 1 was a hail mary. 1 should have been a PI

2-3 ints are legitimatley because Dak made bad decisions/passes
 

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Dak has played a part in two of the INTs - throwing behind Cooper in the Commanders game and Green Bay game gave the defender a better chance to make a play on the ball and making routine throws more difficult to catch. His INT in the Dolphins game was on nobody but Prescott, he also had a bad one in the GB that is not debatable. We can also look at the should-be INTs in the GB game that was dropped and the "hands to the face" call that negated the INT.

The point being, Dak was considered a "good decision maker" in the past - but the more he is asked to stretch the field, the more mistakes he is making. Dak has never really compared favorably to elite QBs when you really break down the numbers, he is always middling at his best.
I can support that the passes weren't perfect for the Cooper and Cobb ints. But those same two are literally #2 and 3 in the NFL in drops.

When Wentz has drops in the first few weeks..it is everyone elses fault but his. When dak has it...oh the pass could have been 3 inches to the left...double standard.

I believe he will mitigate his Ints going forward. He is a good decision maker with the ball. he has had a few bad decisions this year...i will take it...it happens.
 

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When you have to pass 45 times you're mistakes will increase. Run the ball more and balance it and problem solved.
 
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