Dak Prescott: From Game Manager to Gunslinger

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I think Dak is fine when we’re in the lead or the game is close but when there is no threat of a run and he has to air it out he looks awful.

I think the last couple of weeks put on full display how easy it is for the Cowboys castle to crumble.
He looks awful majority of the time because when a designed play is consistently being blown up due to the lack of decent blocking, Dak has barely anytime to make a decision. No QB will look good when plays are getting blown up at the LOS. This is happening more and more this season.

That best OL moniker that the national media continues to pedal is pure crap. We are average at best until proven otherwise. Dak is being abused, and if one cannot see it, you’re as blind as the media with their narrative!
 

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I don't put a lot of stock in meaningless games against bad teams.

Dak is great but when we need him to step up and big a gun slinger I think he's mediocre at best.

When the run game is clicking and he gets man to man matchups I think he can exploit a defense as good as anyone.
 

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He looks awful majority of the time because when a designed play is consistently being blown up due to the lack of decent blocking, Dak has barely anytime to make a decision. No QB will look good when plays are getting blown up at the LOS. This is happening more and more this season.

That best OL moniker that the national media continues to pedal is pure crap. We are average at best until proven otherwise. Dak is being abused, and if one cannot see it, you’re as blind as the media with their narrative!

QB's can't hold the ball all day and Dak has always been one of the worst at holding the ball to long and taking sacks that he shouldn't.
 

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QB's can't hold the ball all day and Dak has always been one of the worst at holding the ball to long and taking sacks that he shouldn't.
I get it CATCH. I do. But we watch the same game. Dak isn’t getting half the help from his line that supposed inferior lines give their own QB.

Crap is getting blown up before it develops 80% of the time. Hell, Zeke is WORKING for yards due to the lack of blocking in the run game. It’s systemic.
 

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Every QB is better when their defense isn't getting mauled repeatedly. Dak is good enough to win with. End of story.
 

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The thing is, all Dak really has to do with this team is drive the bus.

People think of bus driver as a derogatory term. Because Bill Parcells used it for Quincy Carter.

But it's not actually a derogatory term. It's a type of player a lot of coaches like to have, and simply used as an expression.

You just need a guy to drive the bus, to get the rest of the team across the finish line or goal line, safely, i.e., for a win.

Smart coaches actually want a bus driver type, because they're low on turn overs.

Smart quarterbacks are cool with driving their team in the bus safely.

You don't have to be a pistolero to win.

You just need a guy to drive the bus.

That's all it means.

I honestly think Dak should get back to being the best bus driver he can be.

A win is a win is a win. If he can get back to doing that, he adds value as a player.

It doesn't have to be pretty and full of stats.

Just win.

NOT for 30 million baby......!!!!!
 

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I get it CATCH. I do. But we watch the same game. Dak isn’t getting half the help from his line that supposed inferior lines give their own QB.

Crap is getting blown up before it develops 80% of the time. Hell, Zeke is WORKING for yards due to the lack of blocking in the run game. It’s systemic.

It's going to be harder to throw the ball with Cam Flemming in the lineup so that's going to be a bit of a problem.

With that said a QB should have gotten rid of the ball in about 3 seconds and asking for anything more then that from the Oline is a bonus. Some of it is on Dak.


Running the ball is a worry but just look at what Zeke is working with. There is a lack of space when he is running the ball.

The Saints game was the Cowboys coaching with their ego and the Saints taking it as a W everytime we turned around and handed the ball off and didn't test their trash secondary.
 

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It's going to be harder to throw the ball with Cam Flemming in the lineup so that's going to be a bit of a problem.

With that said a QB should have gotten rid of the ball in about 3 seconds and asking for anything more then that from the Oline is a bonus. Some of it is on Dak.


Running the ball is a worry but just look at what Zeke is working with. There is a lack of space when he is running the ball.

The Saints game was the Cowboys coaching with their ego and the Saints taking it as a W everytime we turned around and handed the ball off and didn't test their trash secondary.
Avg throw time is 2.0 to 2.5 seconds. If that! Play breaks down due to our line causing a 5-step drop, turned into an undesigned roll-out and hopefully someone breaking off route to adjust just doesn’t happen often.
 

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One of the positives the past few years people often cite about Dak is that he is someone who doesn't consistently turn the ball over - outside of his fumble problems, 2016 and 2018 had low INT totals. So far in 2019, he hasn't fumbled the ball, but his interception projection is way up. Right now Precott is projected to have over 537 pass attempts, 5,000 yards passing, 35 TDs, and 19 INTs. When going through every QBs 2019 projections, he compares most to Jameis Winston's 2019 projection with 531 pass attempts, 4.387 yards, 35 TDs, and 16 INTs.

I think there are a couple problems here. 1. Kellen Moore's offense seems set up more for the big play rather than taking what the defense gives you 2. Dak is pressing, this could be due to over confidence or desperation to prove he's a Russell Wilson type talent, maybe both? I think the biggest problem here is, we now lost our identity on offense. In the past, we were known as a run first team. What are we now? We a pass first, run first, or a balanced offense? We are lacking an identity now because I don't think we are truly dominating in either the pass or the run, we now have defenses dictating what our offense can do.

The problem with Dak is that he hasn't taken that step and shown he is elite. Yes, his TD numbers are up, but his INT rates are as well. In previous years, his TD totals were low through the air, but so were his INTs. When compared, he's not there with elite QBs, he's there with the Alex Smiths/Mariotas/Winstons of the league. This is not a 30+ million dollar QB play. IF we had a smart owner, he'd be looking at Dak's gamble and seeing he is losing and be using this to his advantage.
You're still in denial? Still getting proved wrong. Plus, what are you talking about? Sounds like another intentionally disinformational rant simply because you hate Dak.
 

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I can support that the passes weren't perfect for the Cooper and Cobb ints. But those same two are literally #2 and 3 in the NFL in drops.

When Wentz has drops in the first few weeks..it is everyone elses fault but his. When dak has it...oh the pass could have been 3 inches to the left...double standard.

I believe he will mitigate his Ints going forward. He is a good decision maker with the ball. he has had a few bad decisions this year...i will take it...it happens.

When you have two WRs on your team that lead in drops, it's also time to start looking at the fact they may not have the best QB throwing to them. Couple this with Cooper never having good hands, and well, you have disaster. Poor precision passer + bad hands = bad outcomes.

I'm not talking about Wentz nor do I care about excuses made for him. He's not the QB for the Dallas Cowboys, he's the QB for the Eagles. Take that to the NFL forum or an Eagles forum, we're here to discuss Dak. We can also discuss Wentz being overpaid there, but a team overpaying for a QB does not justify overpaying for a Marcus Mariota/Jameis Winston type QB.

I'm sure his INT number will drop, but so will his TD numbers. I imagine once they realize this new big play offense isn't working, we'll return to run first to set up the pass and Prescott will settle back into the game manager role he belongs in.
 

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Elliott still won't see the volume that padded his numbers since he entered the league.
 

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You're still in denial? Still getting proved wrong. Plus, what are you talking about? Sounds like another intentionally disinformational rant simply because you hate Dak.

This isn't even an attempt at an argument. "What are you talking about" - point to where you are struggling rather than your assumption as to why I made this thread. This isn't a "rant", this is a discussion if Dak, in a contract year, compares favorably to the elite QBs.

Stop trying to troll and derail. I'm not interested. Go to another zone and write about how much you dislike me rather than showing everyone in the Cowboyszone that I have space in your head occupied.
 

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When you have to pass 45 times you're mistakes will increase. Run the ball more and balance it and problem solved.

His INTs were up still with only throwing a little over 30 times a week. He's turned the ball over in every game but against the Giants.
 

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Dak is just fine. Even the best have had games where they throw 3+ picks and in this case 1 came off a drop that should have been caught and another came off a play where the refs missed obvious pass interference. Other than that all he did was complete 60% of his passes and throw for 450+ yards. It’s not time to hit the panic button on Dak. Not even close
 

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Dak is just fine. Even the best have had games where they throw 3+ picks and in this case 1 came off a drop that should have been caught and another came off a play where the refs missed obvious pass interference. Other than that all he did was complete 60% of his passes and throw for 450+ yards. It’s not time to hit the panic button on Dak. Not even close

The turnover rate is more important than completion % (which is becoming a pointless stat) and passing yards (always been a pointless stat)
 

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When you have two WRs on your team that lead in drops, it's also time to start looking at the fact they may not have the best QB throwing to them. Couple this with Cooper never having good hands, and well, you have disaster. Poor precision passer + bad hands = bad outcomes.

I'm not talking about Wentz nor do I care about excuses made for him. He's not the QB for the Dallas Cowboys, he's the QB for the Eagles. Take that to the NFL forum or an Eagles forum, we're here to discuss Dak. We can also discuss Wentz being overpaid there, but a team overpaying for a QB does not justify overpaying for a Marcus Mariota/Jameis Winston type QB.

I'm sure his INT number will drop, but so will his TD numbers. I imagine once they realize this new big play offense isn't working, we'll return to run first to set up the pass and Prescott will settle back into the game manager role he belongs in.
ok..so once again...blame dak for their drops. lol

You guys are amazing.

You know they dont ding them for a drop if it is a bad pass right?

Meanwhile...back in reality, Dak has thrown the least amount of inaccurate passes in the league. Keep overblowing slight off target passes...lol
 

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ok..so once again...blame dak for their drops. lol

You guys are amazing.

You know they dont ding them for a drop if it is a bad pass right?

Meanwhile...back in reality, Dak has thrown the least amount of inaccurate passes in the league. Keep overblowing slight off target passes...lol
You tell him. lol
 
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Dak is just an average QB. We caught some bad teams off guard early and it showed. Now he still improved in some areas mainly in TD's so that's a positive but he still needs a ton of help from Moore and the talent around him or were not going far. Our defense hasn't shown they can do much to increase our odds of winning so if the offense isn't clicking at a high level were probably going to lose.
 

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One of the positives the past few years people often cite about Dak is that he is someone who doesn't consistently turn the ball over - outside of his fumble problems, 2016 and 2018 had low INT totals. So far in 2019, he hasn't fumbled the ball, but his interception projection is way up. Right now Precott is projected to have over 537 pass attempts, 5,000 yards passing, 35 TDs, and 19 INTs. When going through every QBs 2019 projections, he compares most to Jameis Winston's 2019 projection with 531 pass attempts, 4.387 yards, 35 TDs, and 16 INTs.

I think there are a couple problems here. 1. Kellen Moore's offense seems set up more for the big play rather than taking what the defense gives you 2. Dak is pressing, this could be due to over confidence or desperation to prove he's a Russell Wilson type talent, maybe both? I think the biggest problem here is, we now lost our identity on offense. In the past, we were known as a run first team. What are we now? We a pass first, run first, or a balanced offense? We are lacking an identity now because I don't think we are truly dominating in either the pass or the run, we now have defenses dictating what our offense can do.

The problem with Dak is that he hasn't taken that step and shown he is elite. Yes, his TD numbers are up, but his INT rates are as well. In previous years, his TD totals were low through the air, but so were his INTs. When compared, he's not there with elite QBs, he's there with the Alex Smiths/Mariotas/Winstons of the league. This is not a 30+ million dollar QB play. IF we had a smart owner, he'd be looking at Dak's gamble and seeing he is losing and be using this to his advantage.
I think he is better than Mariota or Winston. Smith is a close one plus he is not playing currently.
 
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