Can a team really win without coaching

kskboys

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Ridiculous. He won three national titles in college. You don't do that by just being a good recruiter. He lost 11 conference games in 17 seasons. He was 12-5 against Nebraska. He was 9-5-2 against Texas.
Switzer ran a very simple O due to an overload of talent. That was before scholarship limitations, and yes, you can be a moron as HC if you have enough talent.

There is simply a mountain of difference between winning w/ much superior talent and winning w/ coaching.
 

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Coaching is your only real advantage in the salary cap era. For example; Imagine Josh Daniels as a head coach and Kellen Moore as a play caller. Advantage Cowboys. IMO.

I'm sure you meant Josh McDaniels.

He was HC at Denver.
He called the offense and drafted Tim Tebow in the 1st round.

He'll never leave New England again.
 

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Switzer ran a very simple O due to an overload of talent. That was before scholarship limitations, and yes, you can be a moron as HC if you have enough talent.

There is simply a mountain of difference between winning w/ much superior talent and winning w/ coaching.

There have been talented teams that couldn't do squat. Georgia is a prime example. They recruited very well for years and never really won anything until recently. Michigan during the Schembechler years were always some of the more talented teams in the country. Guess how many NCs he won in 21 years? Zero.

So are you saying Nick Saban might not be a good coach? He just has great talent? What about Dabo Swinney? Urban Meyer? I mean Meyer's UF and OSU teams were easily some of the most talented.

What does running a simple offense have to do with anything? Holtz ran a simple offense at Notre Dame. Was he a bad coach too, just having the benefit of having uber talented ND teams?
 

dreghorn2

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Lol at those that think Switzer wasn't a good coach.

He may have had issues with Aikman stylistically, but he won a Super Bowl and 3 National Championships.

If you say he did it with overwhelming talent than so did Jimmy, Saban, Noll, and others. It's an incredible disservice to any coach who wins at the highest level, college or pro, that they only won because they had the best players.

If anything it may be even more difficult to win with someone else's players, the pressure to win with Dallas at that time must have been incredible.

I'm never going to slag a coach of the Cowboys who gave me such personal joy as he did by beating the hated Steelers, after all those terrible 70s losses, while delivering us our 5th Super Bowl.

And oh yeah, he would coach circles around the wet rag we have at the helm now, even at his current age.
 

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If you simply removed JG tomorrow, and didn't even replace him, this team would not be worse.

I'd say of 32 head coaches in the NFL today, maybe 8 actively improve their team's chances of winning. The rest are either irrelevant to their team's success or actively detrimental.
 

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I look at it this way - there are two battles going on every Sunday. The player vs player and the coaching/scheme/adjustment battles. To beat a team like Miami our coaching can be average or even below average because our players have much more collective talent. To beat a team like New England who has a massive coaching advantage EVERY game, your players have to be perfect to offset the coaching disadvantage.

The salary cap prevents any team from stacking the talent level on the player side which means the coaching side MUST step up to be Super Bowl contenders.
 

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The thing about the Switzer years was that he had a bunch of quality assistants remaining that Jimmy had assembled. Barry had enough sense not to screw that up.

But like you, I don't have much faith in the coaching staff right now. Hopefully, they can get things straightened out to get that faith back.

That's debatable.
 

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It's possible if you have enough talent and player leadership. Brian Billick was an offensive coach who won a Superbowl on the back of an incredible defense and a very average offense.

But it makes it a lot harder than it should be.
 
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