San Fran passes the eye test early as a favorite to be in line for contention

CouchCoach said:

They look for real for now but there's a lot of ball to be played and when they play LA and SEA, that will reveal more.

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And they play twice.

superonyx said:

You are still arguing about Zekes contract long after it’s done. I believe you were one of the morons....probably the biggest...swearing now Jerry wouldn’t pay Zeke...people tried to tell you what an idiot you were then. You learned nothing.
And Dak was the second most sacked QB last year....you really got me there. Way to disprove my point. Your not getting any better at this.

so after looking like the village idiot over Zekes contract you are here saying Dak and Cooper won’t get paid. Haha...If we were not paying Dak why did Stephen Jones think Dak was going to sign last weekend? And Cooper made the choice to bet on himself and not sign yet.

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I objected to Zeke's new contract. I was right then and I'm right now. Look what we got for spending too much on him, almost nothing. The offense no longer runs through him and we really don't need him now that we have Pollard who is much cheaper and does just as well per carry. Oh and now you move the goal post about Dak. He was the second-most sacked QB last year but that's not what you said before, you said he was the most sacked which is a lie.

It's clear we'll never get the production to match the resources invested in the offensive line. Paying big money to a RB with two years on his contract was just foolish.

Typhus said:

Lets just stick to the facts here and let it sink in for a moment.

I know this will anger many and this post is not intended to do so.

Matt Breida - undrafted

Tevin Coleman - 3rd round

Raheem Mostert - undrafted

This team can pound the rock, they bring a serious ground game with minimal cap expense.

Thats a build model that is working out, right now, on gameday, and as much as it pains me to say it,

San Fran passes the eye test early as a favorite to be in line for contention.

Jerry thinks he can buy a championship because he spends big money to retain top talent, perceived top talent.

All though this thread is focused on how another team addressed their RB issues and suceeded, and how the Cowboys have addressed our backfield is obviously the topic of this post, its actually just a microcosm of the real problem in big D.

Its much larger than most are willing to even admit.

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I would love to have Kyle Shanahan as coach. He would do wonders with Dak.

I wish we could have taken Tevin Coleman rather than Chaz Green.

Hopefully, the 2019 NFC Championship Game will go like this................

Cowboys @ Niners


Cowboys jump out to 24-13 lead. Dallas faces a 4th-and-one at the Niners' 7-yard line with just minutes remaining in regulation, but Garrett decides to go for the jugular instead of taking the "safe" field goal with Maher. Zeke gets stuffed for no gain.

Niners promptly march all the way downfield and close the deficit to 24-20. Everyone expects Dallas to try to run out the clock conservatively, but instead Dak throws a deep slant to Cooper, who takes it 70 yards to the San Francisco 9. Moments later, Dak hits Gallup on a short 6-yard TD and Cowboys go up 30-20 (Maher misses the extra point.)

Niners get intercepted again on the next drive and it's game over.

Meanwhile, the Bills win the AFC title game...........

superonyx said:

We have the NFL's #1 offense in yards per game and #9 in points per game.
We lost a 2 point game on the road in NO and a game where we committed too many turnovers while gaining almost 600 yards vs 300 to the Packers.

We are in first place in the division and we are pretending we are some dumpster fire that needs to blow it all up.

Btw. The niners beat the Bucs, Bungles, Browns, and depleted Steelers.

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Jake said:

Did anyone "eye test" San Fran in their crapfest 4th quarter comeback win (at home) over Mason Rudolph's Steelers? Or are we only looking at the Browns thrashing with San Fran coming off a bye?

Prior to squeaking by Pittsburgh they beat Cincinnati and Tampa Bay. I want to see them play the Rams, Seahawks, Saints, and Packers before crowning them.

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Im not crowning them, but you can only play the cards your dealt,

superonyx said:

Then explain it to us. I'm not seeing how the copying the niners is what we need to do.

The niners were:

2-14
6-10
4-12

A 4-0 start and victories over the Bengals, Browns, Bucs, and Steelers doesnt make them the model.

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I never said they were, but again your missing the point.

Zeke was given just 12 carries vs a Green Bay Packers run defense that was very suspect vs the run.
Pollard had just 4 carries.

SF vs CLE
Breida - 11
Coleman - 16
Mostert - 7
The 49ers are doing what Dallas should be doing, which is taking advantage of an opponents weakness.

I realize that Moore will have some what of a learning curve, but sometimes you just have to recognize the obvious.

Until this team can get back to its true identity, which is controlling the LOS and TOP by pounding the rock, this team will continue
to stumble.

Typhus said:

Im not crowning them, but you can only play the cards your dealt,

I never said they were, but again your missing the point.

Zeke was given just 12 carries vs a Green Bay Packers run defense that was very suspect vs the run.
Pollard had just 4 carries.

SF vs CLE
Breida - 11
Coleman - 16
Mostert - 7
The 49ers are doing what Dallas should be doing, which is taking advantage of an opponents weakness.

I realize that Moore will have some what of a learning curve, but sometimes you just have to recognize the obvious.

Until this team can get back to its true identity, which is controlling the LOS and TOP by pounding the rock, this team will continue
to stumble.

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I would agree in some circumstances. But being down 31-3 always changes the gameplan. It’s also hard to argue with 600 yards of offense. Dak threw for over 300 yards in the second half alone. Down 31-3 you think they should be leaning on the run?

CyberB0b said:

It's clear we'll never get the production to match the resources invested in the offensive line. Paying big money to a RB with two years on his contract was just foolish.

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BoysfaninVegas said:

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Their seven and our seven makes 14. So yeah, let's put 14 guys on the line of scrimmage and hope our RB finds the crease. I hate those types of short yardage calls where we clog the line.

Typhus said:

Im not crowning them, but you can only play the cards your dealt,

I never said they were, but again your missing the point.

Zeke was given just 12 carries vs a Green Bay Packers run defense that was very suspect vs the run.
Pollard had just 4 carries.

SF vs CLE
Breida - 11
Coleman - 16
Mostert - 7
The 49ers are doing what Dallas should be doing, which is taking advantage of an opponents weakness.

I realize that Moore will have some what of a learning curve, but sometimes you just have to recognize the obvious.

Until this team can get back to its true identity, which is controlling the LOS and TOP by pounding the rock, this team will continue
to stumble.

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This offensive line is the most overrated group in the league.
We pounded the rock against the saints. How did that work out? The media has repeated this stuff about how we have the best offensive line so many times it has become true without question while ignoring what’s clear to anyone paying attention. Dak was sacked almost 60 times last year. We see Zeke running into no holes and defenders in his backfield.

CyberB0b said:

It's clear we'll never get the production to match the resources invested in the offensive line. Paying big money to a RB with two years on his contract was just foolish.

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Why are people not talking about what production we are getting from our DE’s and their 30m salaries? Or our LBers? People act like Zeke is being paid like a high rated QB. Heck Zeke makes less money than that CB from the dolphin Cooper beat like a drum.

We have some problems on this team....Zekes salary isn’t one of them.

catiii said:

Not only do I agree with your post, but when you watch SFO play, they've got something we haven't got ....heart. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. They've got Heart, and discipline, both of which originate in coaching of course, which we also haven't got.
The entire country club limousine culture here is due for a reset.

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This right here is my assessment of this team, no discipline, no heart, and no real coaching. The term "frontrunner" comes to mind, when everything is good they look great and the attitudes are awesome, but when they are met with adversity...well they look lethargic and disinterested. Now, I must say that once JG got flagged for throwing a flag(too many flags in the game now)the team appeared to respond, and that should've been evident to everyone. If only this group of talent could attack games early like they did in the second half and not beat themselves with mistakes and penalties they'll pass the eye test with flying colors. If this team can't contend this year...and I'm sticking to my earlier prediction of a 10-6, 11-5 record this entire coaching staff has to go. All of the Cowboys issues are correctable, penalties(discipline), turnovers(discipline)...get it right coaches, demand more of these players and put the best talent on the field. Lewis should start over Brown in my opinion, just saying.

Direwolf63 said:

It's still early but they look good so far. They have issues at OT due to injuries, so they will likely fall off. We'll see. Can't make any final conclusions.

But I would bet they wouldn't fall behind 31-3 to the Packers at home

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If anything, the 49ers are usually Rodgers' kryptonite.

Typhus said:

Lets just stick to the facts here and let it sink in for a moment.

I know this will anger many and this post is not intended to do so.

Matt Breida - undrafted

Tevin Coleman - 3rd round

Raheem Mostert - undrafted

This team can pound the rock, they bring a serious ground game with minimal cap expense.

Thats a build model that is working out, right now, on gameday, and as much as it pains me to say it,

San Fran passes the eye test early as a favorite to be in line for contention.

Jerry thinks he can buy a championship because he spends big money to retain top talent, perceived top talent.

All though this thread is focused on how another team addressed their RB issues and suceeded, and how the Cowboys have addressed our backfield is obviously the topic of this post, its actually just a microcosm of the real problem in big D.

Its much larger than most are willing to even admit.

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Well coached team for sure. Their run game is great because they have a great line.

And instead of taking a Rb when they had a top 5 pick, they took bosa. And instead of using 15 million on a back they used it elsewhere.

Great coaching and great management together.

CowboyRoy said:

Well coached team for sure. Their run game is great because they have a great line.

And instead of taking a Rb when they had a top 5 pick, they took bosa. And instead of using 15 million on a back they used it elsewhere.

Great coaching and great management together.

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Yea instead of paying the best RB in the nfl 15M per year they are giving that money to Dee Ford and his 3 tackles on the season.....3...

and they drafted Bosa 2nd overall.....the first RB taken that year went near the end of the first round..some guy no one heard of. If the cowboys were in that same position they would also have drafted Nick Bosa over any RB in the draft this year...anyone would.

Check the Niners record since that great coach has been there.....not so great..in fact they drafted 2nd overall for a reason.

are you going to make any legit points?

Typhus said:

Lets just stick to the facts here and let it sink in for a moment.

I know this will anger many and this post is not intended to do so.

Matt Breida - undrafted

Tevin Coleman - 3rd round

Raheem Mostert - undrafted

This team can pound the rock, they bring a serious ground game with minimal cap expense.

Thats a build model that is working out, right now, on gameday, and as much as it pains me to say it,

San Fran passes the eye test early as a favorite to be in line for contention.

Jerry thinks he can buy a championship because he spends big money to retain top talent, perceived top talent.

All though this thread is focused on how another team addressed their RB issues and suceeded, and how the Cowboys have addressed our backfield is obviously the topic of this post, its actually just a microcosm of the real problem in big D.

Its much larger than most are willing to even admit.

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Wait I thought the process to contend in the NFL took 10 plus years? How can SF pull off a shorter time frame? Is the process longer in Dallas?

superonyx said:

Yea instead of paying the best RB in the nfl 15M per year they are giving that money to Dee Ford and his 3 tackles on the season.....3...

and they drafted Bosa 2nd overall.....the first RB taken that year went near the end of the first round..some guy no one heard of. If the cowboys were in that same position they would also have drafted Nick Bosa over any RB in the draft this year...anyone would.

Check the Niners record since that great coach has been there.....not so great..in fact they drafted 2nd overall for a reason.

are you going to make any legit points?

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Has 15 million per for a RB ever worked?











The answer is “Nope.”

Typhus said:

Lets just stick to the facts here and let it sink in for a moment.

I know this will anger many and this post is not intended to do so.

Matt Breida - undrafted

Tevin Coleman - 3rd round

Raheem Mostert - undrafted

This team can pound the rock, they bring a serious ground game with minimal cap expense.

Thats a build model that is working out, right now, on gameday, and as much as it pains me to say it,

San Fran passes the eye test early as a favorite to be in line for contention.

Jerry thinks he can buy a championship because he spends big money to retain top talent, perceived top talent.

All though this thread is focused on how another team addressed their RB issues and suceeded, and how the Cowboys have addressed our backfield is obviously the topic of this post, its actually just a microcosm of the real problem in big D.

Its much larger than most are willing to even admit.

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The 49ers have been drafting at the very top of the draft for what seems like an eternity. They should have acquired talent by now.

The Cowboys have been NFCE champs a high percentage of the past 5 years and in the hunt every year but one.

I’ll still take the Cowboys roster over the 49ers.

Whyjerry said:

Has 15 million per for a RB ever worked?


The answer is “Nope.”

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$100million forTank and you guys are all up in arms over Zeke? Lol

Verdict said:

$100million forTank and you guys are all up in arms over Zeke? Lol

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Hah. That one too. So many bad contracts it’s hard to keep up with them all