Our ongoing disadvantage - Opposing players got clues to Cowboys offense from Boise State

khiladi · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
but your point was Dak is so bad they were willing to make that decision, a point which falls apart when Dak throws for a record number of yards in a half against GB.

dur da dur

No, my point was GB didn’t respect Dak’s arm that they played man, when teams that far ahead traditionally play cover 2.

Even with that record, it was a record number of yards in a LOSS, while GB wasn’t even getting pressure. All the yards in the world don’t change that homey, Dur Da dur. GB played man the whole first half, and guess what? Dak didn’t throw for any record number of yards and completely stunk up the joint. But continue on..

dur Da dur..

TWOK11 · Oct 13, 2019

khiladi said:
No, my point was GB didn’t respect Dak’s arm that they played man

Which was clearly a bad decision based on a false premise that Dak couldn’t beat that coverage.

My goodness

Stash · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
First of all, one player from one team is hardly “ongoing evidence”.

Where's that?

It's not even one team saying it, much less one player. Be more wrong.

Second, you clearly believe other teams knowing our offense and tells is unique to us because our coaching is poor. That is a fantasy conjured up by those who hate our coaching staff more than they like the team. Everyone knows everyone in the NFL, it’s all about execution and talent.

If you want to try to dismiss it as a common occurrence, back it up. Put in the homework, and find articles stating this same sort of thing about other teams in the league. Bring two examples like I have with the Rams and Saints. Do the work.

This thread is you lashing out emotionally because you’re angry, nothing more.

The thread is me talking about an inconvenient truth, and watching the homer cheerleaders squirm, cry, and pout about it. It's great entertainment.

khiladi · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
Which was clearly a bad decision based on a false premise that Dak couldn’t beat that coverage.

My goodness

it’s based on the fact GB was doing enough to WIN the game, which is the objective.. dur Da dur...

“my goodness”..

TWOK11 · Oct 13, 2019

stasheroo said:
If you want to try to dismiss it as a common occurrence, back it up. Put in the homework, and find articles stating this same sort of thing about other teams in the league. Bring two examples like I have with the Rams and Saints. Do the work.

You want me to prove that NFL coaches/players study and know the opposition’s scheme and tells? Or that they all study 2010 Boise State film?

Because I’ll be honest, the latter is gonna be really hard to provide evidence for.

TWOK11 · Oct 13, 2019

khiladi said:
it’s based on the fact GB was doing enough to WIN the game, which is the objective.. dur Da dur...

“my goodness”..

You have absolutely no clue what your point was

khiladi · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
You have absolutely no clue what your point was

No, you just suck at arguing, thus the example that you provided to establish your point was ‘throwing for a record number of yards” in a LOSS. You know when QBs also throw for a lot of yards? Against prevent...

My point was that GB didn’t respect Dak’s arm enough that they basically played man the whole time, despite a huge lead. Dak couldn’t do jack squat when it mattered, meaning it was ‘stat passing’.

Stash · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
You want me to prove that NFL coaches/players study and know the opposition’s scheme and tells? Or that they all study 2010 Boise State film?

Because I’ll be honest, the latter is gonna be really hard to provide evidence for.

Not at all, show me the articles where opposing players are saying the same things about knowing what other teams are doing the way they're repeatedly saying it about the Cowboys.

If it's as common as you want to claim, you should have plenty of examples.

Show me another team saying "we knew what was coming 90% of the time".

If you're right, it should be easy.

Idgit · Oct 13, 2019

Zordon said:
BS.

Every team in the league has weaknesses. This roster is good enough to make some noise in the playoffs. It's being held back by inferior coaching. Get your head out of the sand, defending this clown coach after nearly a decade is embarrassing.

We’re definitely a good enough roster to compete in the postseason.
Two regular season losses don’t mean we won’t, btw.

TWOK11 · Oct 13, 2019

stasheroo said:
Not at all, show me the articles where opposing players are saying the same things about knowing what other teams are doing the way they're repeatedly saying it about the Cowboys.

If it's as common as you want to claim, you should have plenty of examples.

Show me another team saying "we knew what was coming 90% of the time".

If you're right, it should be easy.

There’s a really good article on this from a few years back:

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/sy...m-study-and-preparing-for-a-nfl-game.amp.html

Summary: Players who take film study seriously can predict with a reasonable degree of certainly what is going to happen on any individual play run or defense called by the other team. Teams try and run tendency busters but they rarely work because they aren’t practiced very much.

There’s a reason why Tony Romo can predict most plays and why, by NFL standards, it really isn’t that unique or impressive. Joe Buck has said Troy can do it as well it just isn’t his style and he doesn’t like “giving the play away” for the viewer.

The only reason a Saints player made the comment was because they studied college instead of NFL film because of unique circumstances. The process or results aren’t unique at all. It was noteworthy only because of the team they studied.

Stash · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
There’s a really good article on this from a few years back:

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/sy...m-study-and-preparing-for-a-nfl-game.amp.html

Summary: Players who take film study seriously can predict with a reasonable degree of certainly what is going to happen on any individual play run or defense called by the other team. Teams try and run tendency busters but they rarely work because they aren’t practiced very much.

There’s a reason why Tony Romo can predict most plays and why, by NFL standards, it really isn’t that unique or impressive. Joe Buck has said Troy can do it as well it just isn’t his style and he doesn’t like “giving the play away” for the viewer.

The only reason a Saints player made the comment was because they studied college instead of NFL film because of unique circumstances. The process or results aren’t unique at all. It was noteworthy only because of the team they studied.

Sorry, but that's not close to the same thing Cowboys opponents are saying.

Swing and a miss.

Again, find specific examples of players making these same comments about other teams.

Find us another "90% of the time".

TWOK11 · Oct 13, 2019

As for your Rams example, again, it’s about execution. They had the OL talent to block it up and the Cowboys played poor gap assignment football. The Rams eye candy motion worked again against most all year because they executed it well and had more talent than most teams trying to stop it. The Bears played essentially the exact same scheme we did, the difference was they have a better interior DL and their LBs stayed in their gaps better.

TWOK11 · Oct 13, 2019

stasheroo said:
Sorry, but that's not close to the same thing Cowboys opponents are saying.

Swing and a miss.

Again, find specific examples of players making these same comments about other teams.

Find us another "90% of the time".

The article literally says “90% of the time”.

Stash · Oct 13, 2019

TWOK11 said:
As for your Rams example, again, it’s about execution. They had the OL talent to block it up and the Cowboys played poor gap assignment football. The Rams eye candy motion worked again against most all year because they executed it well and had more talent than most teams trying to stop it. The Bears played essentially the exact same scheme we did, the difference was they have a better interior DL and their LBs stayed in their gaps better.

You can keep trying to dismiss it all you want, the homers can't handle the possibility that this team's non-college scouting and predictability puts them at a huge disadvantage.

And, again, I'll go by what NFL players have to say on the subject vs Internet Cowboys excusemaker.

The Rams players won. They had zero reason whatsoever to make comments that actually undercut their physical dominance, much less tip off an opponent that they've been figured out.

However, Cowboys coaches and Super Fans clearly have motive to deny, deny, deny.

Fla Cowpoke · Oct 13, 2019

I think it is just typical talk....I remember the Super Bowl with the Bucs and the Raiders....they BUcs knew everything the Raiders were going to do. Typically players aren't going to talk about things like this....if you have an advantage over a team, why say anything? CHances are you might play them again and you don't want to lose that advantage. Have heard it many other times and seen it where a team seems to know what is coming.

I know it is early in the season, but this really is a must win type of game, even with backups.

kskboys · Oct 13, 2019

I'm not about to read all 10 pages of this!!!!!!!!!!

Listen up. This might be true. Doesn't matter. What really matters is if our resident boy wonder(I say that w/ affection) can take this info and use it against the other team. This is just one more step in Mo becoming a viable NFL OC.

Our ongoing disadvantage - Opposing players got clues to Cowboys offense from Boise State

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