Amazing stat from yesterday in a Tweet

Colombiacowboy

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I believe u are right something is wrong with this team on the inside I don't know what it is but its something

The players not named Zeke, Dlaw, Jaylon, Dak or Amari might have a little resentment. All the focus on these clowns and you have very little production from most, and inconsistency from the others with Cooper's injury status possibly being the only acceptable excuse.
 

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There is way more going on here, then just the players. I can't believe I'm saying this but you really have to wonder if something has happened, perhaps in the locker room, that we are not aware of?

Are you implying Garrett is our very own Jerry Sandusky?
 

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But you’re assuming we are a better team than GB or NO?

What we can’t recover from is losing 2 starting Tackles and receivers. We’ve seen how losing key talent has reduced us before.

GB and NO have had significant injuries and keep winning.

We lost to the fricken Jets. I am fairly certain that we would lose to almost every team in the league at this point, with the exception of maybe the Bengals. (Skins and Dolphins playing us again would probably game plan...I guess we will test that theory when we play the Skins again)
 

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GB and NO have had significant injuries and keep winning.

We lost to the fricken Jets. I am fairly certain that we would lose to almost every team in the league at this point, with the exception of maybe the Bengals. (Skins and Dolphins playing us again would probably game plan...I guess we will test that theory when we play the Skins again)
On any given Sunday is always in play. Patriots lost to Miami last year. Rams have lost 3 straight.

And we’ve never been able to overcome significant injuries.
 

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According to a tweet by NFL Network producer Bobby Belt about yesterday’s loss to the Jets:

NFL teams are 90-1 since 1991 when they win time of possession, total yards, turnovers, pick up 25 first downs, and convert at least 10 or more 3rd down attempts.

Dallas' loss to the Jets on Sunday is the one loss.”


Ouch. The Cowboys somehow find a way to lose.

That’s our fearless leader alright, achieving the least with the most...:cool:
 

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As per your post, and this response, you are trying to twist things into something that isn't there. This truly was a unique thing, and as I said before, the suggestion that the Cowboys are routinely inventing ways to lose that have never occurred in the 100 year history of the NFL is nonsense.

Some, and apparently you are among them, like to think every issue the Cowboys have is somehow unique to the Cowboys and that the rest of the NFL never experiences difficulties similar to the ones the Cowboys face. The only thing unique with the current Cowboys is the owner and GM being the same person, and that isn't unique in the history of the NFL.

But hey, we can't have the soap opera if we recognize these things, right?



Go to DallasCowboysUniverse.com
Click Dallas Cowboys Forum

Click Jason Garrett embarrassing list of records and stats

A specifically unique compilation of “never been done before losses except by Garrett Cowboys team list”

Not commonplace
Not happening to any other team’s coach

No drama or soap opera even

Cold hard evidence

Give it a read
 
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But you’re assuming we are a better team than GB or NO?

What we can’t recover from is losing 2 starting Tackles and receivers. We’ve seen how losing key talent has reduced us before.
No not assuming we’re better than GB. In fact I picked GB to beat us but certainly thought it would be a more competitive game. However don’t understand the injury excuse. Better teams figure out how to win or compete with them. FO needs to obtain better backup talent.
 

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If the OP's numbers are right, this particular longshot is uncommon. If looking at other circumstances, I seriously doubt the Cowboys are routinely inventing ways to lose games that have never occurred throughout the 100 year history of the league.

You decide (1 of 3):

The thread was started with the intention of making it about all the ridiculous records the Cowboys have set since jeri ran off jimmy but the thread title got changed to Garrett records but it has some of both, here's some cut and paste from that thread:

Lets start with this pitiful doozy:

The Houston Texans shocked their intrastate rivals (Dallas Cowboys) 19-10, becoming just the second expansion team ever to win their first game (after the Minnesota Vikings in 1961).



According to Elias Sports Bureau, the Cowboys are the second team in NFL history to lose consecutive games at home despite scoring at least 30 points in both contests. The 2012 Detroit Lions lost two in a row when scoring 31 and 33 points. The Lions offensive coordinator? Scott Linehan, who holds that job with the Cowboys.









Only team in NFL history to follow two different 13-3 one seed seasons with a one and done playoffs.

Broke the team record for fewest rushing TDs a few years back. The record broken was of the strike shortened 9 game 1982 season.

Also records for fewest turnovers generated. not sure if it was just franchise or NFL record. I think it was tied for worst ever with the Saints maybe.

Current streak of 28 games without a defensive TD (longest in team history AFAIK), and also 36 games without a special teams TD (also longest in team history AFAIK).

There was the unique back to back 70+ yard runs given up to the Ravens.

The loss to the Texans first ever game should count here too it was such a huge fail.

Two games where we reached 99% win probability and lost, both in the same year to Green Bay and Detroit.

In 2013 the defense gave up 6645 total yards, the most in team history, and third most in NFL history. Also in 2013, let Calvin Johnson go off for 329 yards receiving. The most ever surrendered in team history, and the second most in NFL history. The previous 300 yard game was 24 years earlier.

The Cowboys set a team record by committing 18 penalties against the Eagles in September, 2015.
They had three others that the Eagles declined. The previous mark of 17 was set against the Cleveland Browns in a 1988 game.

Matt Cassel had 97 passing yards in a game against the Seahawks in 2015. That is the fewest passing yards by a Dallas starting quarterback who played an entire game since Clint Stoerner’s first NFL start in October of 2001, when he tallied 93 yards versus Arizona.
 

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6 sacks to one player in one game is a new Cowboys record of shame. That has never happened before. Hell, it was a new record at 5 sacks. That's how much fail went into that, and Garrett gets a good share of it because of the lack of either helping the scrub, or benching him sooner. We made Clayborne into the greatest defensive end in NFL history for one game. He'll go back to being a JAG for the rest of his career now as is the way of the Curse of the Cowboy.

VS Green Bay. Up 26-3 at half, then choked out to Matt Flynn:
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11/19/2017 lost to the Eagles 37 to 9 ---> It had been 55 years since Dallas gave up 30 points in the second half without scoring. The Cowboys fell to the Eagles 37-9 on Sunday after holding a 9-7 lead over Philadelphia at halftime. Dallas has lost only one other game by more than 20 points after leading at the intermission. On Dec. 9, 1962, the Cowboys led the St. Louis Cardinals 20–14 at halftime before eventually dropping the game 52-20. (Elias Sports Bureau)

November 2017 - First time in franchise history that the Cowboys have gone 10 straight quarters without a TD.

2017 Season:

First time the Cowboys have been held to fewer than 10 points in three straight games in franchise history

Third time they have had four losses of 20 or more points since Jerry Jones purchased the team in 1989.

First time since 2004 they have had three straight losses by at least 20 points. The Bill Parcells’ Cowboys lost to the Cincinnati Bengals (26-3), Philadelphia Eagles (49-21) and Baltimore Ravens (30-10) on their way to a 6-10 finish. The only other time the Cowboys had three straight losses by at least 20 points came in 1960, the first year of the organization’s existence.

Lets take an intermission to reflect on the positive:



Back to our regular scheduled programing.....



Jason Garrett is the only Cowboys coach to lose 3 out of 4 Thanksgiving games:
2014: Eagles 33 Cowboys 10
2015: Panthers 33 Cowboys 14
2016: Cowboys 31 Commanders 26
2017: Chargers 28 Cowboys 6. (also the fewest amount of points ever scored on Thanksgiving)

2017 Season: 92-22 scoring differential over three games (70 points) is an all-time franchise worst for a three game stretch:
November 12 at Atlanta Falcons L 7–27
November 19 Philadelphia Eagles L 9–37
November 23 Los Angeles Chargers L 6–28
3 straight games with under 10 points - franchise record


 

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from a 2017 Bob Sturm article:

"The 515 total yards allowed? The 434 passing yards? The 500-400 club now has eight quarterbacks who have done it against the Cowboys since 1960. Billy Wade did the deed in 1962 win for the Bears and Warren Moon accomplished it in 1991, victoriously, for the Houston Oilers. The other six have done it against the Jason Garrett-coached Cowboys since 2011:

-- Eli Manning in a December 2011 win for New York.
-- Drew Brees in a December 2012 win for New Orleans.
-- Peyton Manning in an October 2013 win for Denver.
-- Matt Stafford in an October 2013 win for Detroit.
-- Kirk Cousins in a November 2016 loss for Washington.
-- Philip Rivers in a November 2017 win for Los Angeles.


Now, what about when you let the opposing passer go for 400 yards, the opposing offense for 500 and never sack him or force them to turn the ball over?

Friends, that has only happened three times in Cowboys history according to our friends at Pro Football Reference: against Brees and the Saints in 2012, Cousins and the Commanders on Thanksgiving Day in 2016 and Rivers yesterday"




10.14.12 at Ravens 31, Cowboys 29 - The first loss in franchise history when the Cowboys run the ball 42+ times (89-1)



Dallas Cowboys blown leads under Garrett:

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Aaron Jones - GB VS Dallas 2019 - first RB to ever have 4 rushing TDs vs Dallas (Per MNF on 10-14-19)

these posts were taken from the first 22 pages (there are over 50 and I ran out of gas cut and pasting)
 

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According to a tweet by NFL Network producer Bobby Belt about yesterday’s loss to the Jets:

NFL teams are 90-1 since 1991 when they win time of possession, total yards, turnovers, pick up 25 first downs, and convert at least 10 or more 3rd down attempts.

Dallas' loss to the Jets on Sunday is the one loss.”


Ouch. The Cowboys somehow find a way to lose.

And yet somehow...some way...it's the offense's fault for not finding a way to win. Go figure. :popcorn:
 

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from a 2017 Bob Sturm article:

"The 515 total yards allowed? The 434 passing yards? The 500-400 club now has eight quarterbacks who have done it against the Cowboys since 1960. Billy Wade did the deed in 1962 win for the Bears and Warren Moon accomplished it in 1991, victoriously, for the Houston Oilers. The other six have done it against the Jason Garrett-coached Cowboys since 2011:

-- Eli Manning in a December 2011 win for New York.
-- Drew Brees in a December 2012 win for New Orleans.
-- Peyton Manning in an October 2013 win for Denver.
-- Matt Stafford in an October 2013 win for Detroit.
-- Kirk Cousins in a November 2016 loss for Washington.
-- Philip Rivers in a November 2017 win for Los Angeles.


Now, what about when you let the opposing passer go for 400 yards, the opposing offense for 500 and never sack him or force them to turn the ball over?

Friends, that has only happened three times in Cowboys history according to our friends at Pro Football Reference: against Brees and the Saints in 2012, Cousins and the Commanders on Thanksgiving Day in 2016 and Rivers yesterday"




10.14.12 at Ravens 31, Cowboys 29 - The first loss in franchise history when the Cowboys run the ball 42+ times (89-1)



Dallas Cowboys blown leads under Garrett:

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Aaron Jones - GB VS Dallas 2019 - first RB to ever have 4 rushing TDs vs Dallas (Per MNF on 10-14-19)

these posts were taken from the first 22 pages (there are over 50 and I ran out of gas cut and pasting)


I surely appreciate ya bro. I knew you were a forum CZ member and had spent alot of time compiling all these rare occurrence facts on the other message board. Your factual evidence adds a blatant exclamation point to how Garrett has truly epitomized the cliche "finding new ways to lose."

Thanks for the facts again.
 

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I believe u are right something is wrong with this team on the inside I don't know what it is but its something
This team does not have an emotional leader to pump them up when they are down like: Michael Irvin (still motivated and pumped even today), Dez (censored and cut), Kris Richard (censored). I guess they prefer vanilla Jason Garret "clapology" and butt smacks to get the team going. Not to mention the "high fives" that dont connect.
 

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I surely appreciate ya bro. I knew you were a forum CZ member and had spent alot of time compiling all these rare occurrence facts on the other message board. Your factual evidence adds a blatant exclamation point to how Garrett has truly epitomized the cliche "finding new ways to lose."

Thanks for the facts again.


No prob, as Garrett & jeri like to say, it was a collaborative effort by many who post over there

IMHO, jeri is the core problem, Garrett is just a symptom of that disease. The sad reality is Garrett may be the best person to deal with the nonsensical structure and environment jeri and spawn have created. No one is coming in to save this eternally sinking ship. Its like the Titanic that keeps coming back year after year and occasionally jeri moves around the deck chairs and makes a big deal about it.

Someday Garrett will be fired and there will be celebrations and visions of sugar-plums dancing in fans heads but it will only be a matter of time before everyone realizes its the same product we've seen for the last 25 years but instead of griping about the head coaches clapping and robotic nature, we'll be banging the drum about some other non-issue while jones & spawn run free and continue to monetize the rabid Cowboy fan base who abide against all logic as nothing meaningful ever changes
 

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I honestly don't know what it is Coach but somethings going on. It will come out soon enough but it might be as simple as blood in the water. I mean, I watched this team the last time a HC was fired. This team literally smelled which way the wind blew and they jumped ship on Wade Phillips. I saw that myself. Maybe that's what's happening now, I don't know. Soon enough, we will know what's up. Stuff like this doesn't stay secret for long.


Maybe it’s the scheme issue? If we notice it, players certainly notice the lack of all the things that made Kellen’s offense look good early on. Maybe they feel stifled by whatever influence is changing the offense since it’s just more of the same.
 

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No prob, as Garrett & jeri like to say, it was a collaborative effort by many who post over there

IMHO, jeri is the core problem, Garrett is just a symptom of that disease. The sad reality is Garrett may be the best person to deal with the nonsensical structure and environment jeri and spawn have created. No one is coming in to save this eternally sinking ship. Its like the Titanic that keeps coming back year after year and occasionally jeri moves around the deck chairs and makes a big deal about it.

Someday Garrett will be fired and there will be celebrations and visions of sugar-plums dancing in fans heads but it will only be a matter of time before everyone realizes its the same product we've seen for the last 25 years but instead of griping about the head coaches clapping and robotic nature, we'll be banging the drum about some other non-issue while jones & spawn run free and continue to monetize the rabid Cowboy fan base who abide against all logic as nothing meaningful ever changes

Yes, big picture present and future reality is hard to face. Haze has alluded to it as such on many occasions as well.

it makes the potential for ever winning another one seem even more unattainable

if you have to win in spite of ownership/general manager

in spite of coaching

and the hottest topic for debate around here is on whether the QB play will ever be at a consistent championship level to win one

and then just your normal yearly criteria of

Injuries
Penalties/referees
and even a little luck of balls bouncing your way...ie turnovers, and even strength of schedule, etc

Truly a talll order for this brand of dysfunction to overcome it all

Dare I say A Perfect Storm is needed in order just to return to a Championship game much less a Super Bowl

I do feel a genuine sympathy for the younger fan that has no historical reference point of knowing this team as champions

These are our Dallas Cowboys
 
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