Being real about the qb

Philmonroe

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Teams win with average QB’s. And we haven’t paid Dak anything, you’re distracted with the wrong thing...

All World QB’s are very limited, name 5.
I'm not distracted unless you're distracted. Not many teams win it all with average qb's better do a simple google search. As for your second question you're a football fan so you know the all world qb's already so heck outta here with the questions you already know the answers to.
 

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Agree on the missed opportunity. The sad part is the FO didn't even know they missed their chance at a SB. Our FO is a day late a dollar short every single time.
When us fans and media started the narrative of " having a great QB on a rookie contract is the biggest advantage in pro sports" is when Jerry and Stephen started paying attention.
The Eagles, Hawks actually took advantage while we will be in a Goff type situation. At least the Rams got a SB and have a competent HC.
Where does that leave us?
Dak is better than a bus driver, but he is not elite. Please dont fool yourselves. I always thought we should have paid him Foles money over the offseason but how the narrative is 34+ million or bust.
We see with our own eyes that paying guys like Goff is idiotic but we will pay Dak just a bit more. If we want to keep Dak I think we have not choice but to pay him 30 million. Another recent sports phenomenon is " in 5 years every QB contract will look like a bargain" From the Ringer NFL show podcast, Kevin Clark.


Getting a QB is hard I agree. Just ask the Bucs & Titans. I'm glad we don't have those clowns. l
Dak is Alex Smith jr aka a bus driver. Y'all dudes still starry eyed about 2016 still smh. Hopefully the Cowboys do like Washington and let Dak walk and not pay him. Them two qb's are close to the same skill level with Dak having more accolades.
 

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Dak is Alex Smith jr aka a bus driver. Y'all dudes still starry eyed about 2016 still smh. Hopefully the Cowboys do like Washington and let Dak walk and not pay him. Them two qb's are close to the same skill level with Dak having more accolades.

I want to argue with you again. Just so you can call me a Dakophant. Which is the funniest insult
I’ve heard on the board. I love it.

But I just can’t bring myself to argue with you about the QB anymore Phil.

Cheers bro.
 

PJTHEDOORS

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Dak is Alex Smith jr aka a bus driver. Y'all dudes still starry eyed about 2016 still smh. Hopefully the Cowboys do like Washington and let Dak walk and not pay him. Them two qb's are close to the same skill level with Dak having more accolades.

Lol. Dak's 69.7% accuracy over having no QB. Tough choice.
 

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Didnt read through all this but heck its pretty simple . Dak was a 4th round pick .

We are getting 1st round production out of him 80% of the time
We are not getting 1st player selected in the draft production and really should not expect that
20% of the time we get 4th round production

Considering we did no preparation for the end of the Romo era DAK HAS GIVEN US GREAT VALUE AND OUT PLAYED HIS DRAFT STATUS!!!!

All that said If you want 1st PLAYER SELECTED PRODUCTION tank a season and get that pick if not consider us fortunate to have found a guy in the 4th that can even play .

THATS AS REAL AS IT GETS !!!!
 

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That’s cool we can agree to disagree but average Dak isn’t close to a franchise qb outside of jersey sales. I don’t give a expletive about qbr and other random made up stats. If half his deflections came from tipped balls that should tell you your franchise qb throwing too many inaccurate balls. If you keep messing up anything you will eventually pay for it more often than not. If you’re angry about letting Dak walk sadly you’re the equivalent of a guy that’s never dated a good looking girl and the first halfway decent one that goes on a date with you you’re in love. I’m waaaay past that.

All that bs at the end save that for the after school special get better not all this blah blah blah talk about he such a leader and all that other non on the field junk.

One of the WORST analogies posted. Obviously so much more goes into finding your soulmate that we shouldn't be discussing that here.

Dak is certainly good enough to win a championship. Not by himself since the Brady/Rodgers are unicorns. If Dak is in New England does anyone have a doubt that NE continues to win championships? So if he can do that in NE does that qualify him as Franchise QB then?

Also you are assuming if you let Dak walk you can dial 1800-findaQB to get yourself a Brady or Rodgers or even Mahomme with certainty within next 3 years. Will you bet your life savings on that?

We all know what has been holding back this team. Management and coaching. Those two things are the constant over past 10+ years and we continue to get the same results. That's definition of insanity.... doing the same thing and hoping for a different result.
 

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Every position on the roster has been upgraded with 1st round draft picks. LB, D-line twice (plus paid one), secondary has Byron Jones and a couple decent guys that were borderline 1st round. Offensive lineman def has them, rb yep good there, wr made the trade for amari.......guess what position hasn’t been touched? Yep, your beloved golden child’s position hasn’t been. Ole #4. If anybody thinks he is getting a contract without a deep playoff run (which I doubt they even go to playoffs cause eagles are better than them. Hell I doubt they win more than 7 games to be honest)......but if anybody thinks Dak Prescott has $30million a year waiting on him you should prob find another team to root for because you are clueless about where and how the cowboys are and are not spending their money.

The dude can’t throw a 12 yard out route and you think they are going to pay him? Lol. They could pay a 1st round pick that actually has arm talent, 4 years of salary for what dak wants to get paid in one year. And dak sucks!

I’m tired of hearing about this dak is a leader crap. Dak has never led a football to anything important. A week 4-5 #1 ranking before playing bama is for the tv people to sell the game. That’s why miss st lost 2-3 more games after that. Dak is trash and we just gotta deal it with it this year.

Real cowboy fans will think big picture. Dak fans will think about dak. Figure out what you are fellas

Dak's good when teams are terrified of the run. He can compliment a run game.

Asking him to do more then that against a good team is just silly. He's Dakverage against real competition.

Paying him would be stupid but the Cowboys don't make football moves they make business moves and fans love Dak and he sells jerseys so he will get paid 35 mill a year i'm sure.

This team and players in a country club plain and simple and Dak is one of the top members in that Country club,

I'm getting to the point I don't want to watch anymore. The last 2 weeks the Cowboys game has just been back ground noise while I do other things because they are not worth a time investment.
 

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Dak is Alex Smith jr aka a bus driver. Y'all dudes still starry eyed about 2016 still smh. Hopefully the Cowboys do like Washington and let Dak walk and not pay him. Them two qb's are close to the same skill level with Dak having more accolades.
I am absolutely not a Dak promoter at all. Do you trust this FO to find anyone else? Dak was the 3rd or 4th choice in 2016. If Romo didn’t get injured so frequently the prior years we don’t even draft a QB. We have gotten more than our investment in Dak. Hire some real personnel people and find the next QB. I agree paying Dak as a top 5 guy is a mistake but if we decide to keep him he will get paid like Wentz and Goff.
Let him walk... as long as we have this front office we are not winning.
 

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Didnt read through all this but heck its pretty simple . Dak was a 4th round pick .

We are getting 1st round production out of him 80% of the time
We are not getting 1st player selected in the draft production and really should not expect that
20% of the time we get 4th round production

Considering we did no preparation for the end of the Romo era DAK HAS GIVEN US GREAT VALUE AND OUT PLAYED HIS DRAFT STATUS!!!!

All that said If you want 1st PLAYER SELECTED PRODUCTION tank a season and get that pick if not consider us fortunate to have found a guy in the 4th that can even play .

THATS AS REAL AS IT GETS !!!!
If Jerry is so smart tell the personnel guys to find the next guy. They are out there. Minshew, Allen from Carolina.
Paying Dak what Goff got paid is foolish. Hell I would go after the Skins QB Keenum. Trade a 6th for him today.
When JG is fires the new coach might not want Dak.
I would trade for Rosen also.
Why spend for a franchise QB when we have no shot of winning.
 

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If Jerry is so smart tell the personnel guys to find the next guy. They are out there. Minshew, Allen from Carolina.
Paying Dak what Goff got paid is foolish. Hell I would go after the Skins QB Keenum. Trade a 6th for him today.
When JG is fires the new coach might not want Dak.
I would trade for Rosen also.
Why spend for a franchise QB when we have no shot of winning.

Jason and Dak (Both Not under contract) will go into the grid-iron night together.....
 

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There is no way Dak will sign & only take $25,000,000 a year. He will not play for the Dallas Cowboys if that is all that he is offered. He has already turned down $30,000,000 a year and his agent went to the media and said that Dak was insulted. Dak wants to be paid more than Wilson..... who was 1 yard away from winning 2 SB's.

No matter how bad Dak and the Cowboys finish this year anything less than 32-33 million per year Dak will not take.

He will NOT find that number anywhere in the FA market ....BOOK IT !!!!
 

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Our OL is vastly over rated IMO. I am surprised Dak got up after so many vicious hits. He was far from perfect. But it's hard to throw on your back.
The Jets OL is a bottom unit in the league. Watch how Darnold slides in the pocket to avoid pressure while keeping his eyes downfield. The Cowboys should not have lost to the Jets yesterday. They are clearly the more talented team. It was a game where a stellar QB performance would have made a difference. They didn't get it. The coaching and defense ultimately lost the game, but a few plays by the QB could have made the difference.[/QUOTE]


Ugh!!

Do you people actually understand how football works?

The Jets were blitzing and it is part of Dak's job to see that and change protections accordingly.

How can you block 7 guys with 6?

"Duurr, oline sucks"

Also, the commentators kept mentioning how the Jets oline had "allowed" a ton of sacks the previous games and Darnold had obly one sack all game. I wonder how the Jets Oline got "better" all of a sudden.. maybe Darnold getting rid of the ball fast and changing protections had something to do with it?

Playing QB is about more than just yhrowing a football, its also a mental game and i think this is where Dak lacks. He's slow to read a Defense and rarely calls audibles and at this point in his career, if they don't trust him to do so, that's all you need to hear.
 

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Dak is ok at his current salary but if you are going to pay a guy 30+ million a year he needs to be able to elevate the skill positions around him and he has never done that. We had open receivers but he just couldn't hit them. our receivers are having to work to hard to catch what should be an easy pass play.

I agree with this. This organization needs to determine how many chickens and how many pies to pay this man, and it's definitely well below 30 million. If he wants more, you have to let him walk and draft a QB who will cost a lot less chickens and pies on his rookie contract and who we can develop.
 

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Ugh!!

Do you people actually understand how football works?

The Jets were blitzing and it is part of Dak's job to see that and change protections accordingly.

How can you block 7 guys with 6?

"Duurr, oline sucks"

Also, the commentators kept mentioning how the Jets oline had "allowed" a ton of sacks the previous games and Darnold had obly one sack all game. I wonder how the Jets Oline got "better" all of a sudden.. maybe Darnold getting rid of the ball fast and changing protections had something to do with it?

Playing QB is about more than just yhrowing a football, its also a mental game and i think this is where Dak lacks. He's slow to read a Defense and rarely calls audibles and at this point in his career, if they don't trust him to do so, that's all you need to hear.

I flubbed my delivery of a response to the same quote I think you are responding to. My contribution is bolded below.


Our OL is vastly over rated IMO. I am surprised Dak got up after so many vicious hits. He was far from perfect. But it's hard to throw on your back.
Click to expand...
The Jets OL is a bottom unit in the league. Watch how Darnold slides in the pocket to avoid pressure while keeping his eyes downfield. The Cowboys should not have lost to the Jets yesterday. They are clearly the more talented team. It was a game where a stellar QB performance would have made a difference. They didn't get it. The coaching and defense ultimately lost the game, but a few plays by the QB could have made the difference.[/QUOTE]
 

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I'm not distracted unless you're distracted. Not many teams win it all with average qb's better do a simple google search. As for your second question you're a football fan so you know the all world qb's already so heck outta here with the questions you already know the answers to.

So basically you know you’re being unrealistic, cool...
 

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I want to argue with you again. Just so you can call me a Dakophant. Which is the funniest insult
I’ve heard on the board. I love it.

But I just can’t bring myself to argue with you about the QB anymore Phil.

Cheers bro.
Cheers to you also my man.
 
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