Do you think the players believe in each other?

The surest clue of impending implosion is the announcement of the dreaded "closed door team meeting ". If and when such an occurrence happens, we'll know the end is near.

CouchCoach said:

The only HC I've seen do that is Belichick because his players feel he wouldn't put someone out there that will not do their job and he picks his players. Most of the other HC's are given the players.

Would Garrett have been able to make the payers believe in Chaz Green in ATL? Could he make them believe in Cassel or Weeden?

Most players will start off believing in their teammates but this team just went through something most players don't go through. All, virtually all, of this off season was about making the DE the highest paid at his position and then the holding out RB the highest paid and when they weren't the subject, the QB's contract was. Do you think all of these players are immune to the money that was being thrown around? That's one issue, what if these two highest paid at their position players are not playing up to it and the other players know that? Everybody wants some but not everybody's getting some and those players all know Elliott's deal, as well as Lawrence's, is going to affect how much others get. If they didn't know, their agents made sure they know now.

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I would think that one of the hardest tasks Garrett has as this team’s HC is to prove to them that Jerry is only the “symbolic HC” or “face of the franchise”, lol.

Asklesko said:

Well, I certainly do agree with that. The GM's recent contract actions have had catastrophic effects on this team's effort level...

But about Chaz Green. 99 percent of our players are at a much higher talent level then him. No coach could help that. But is moot, since Garrett and his terrible schemes preclude everything else. With so little hope from above, there is no hope among the players, for the players next to them. The coach is getting nothing out of the players, and the players have given up. I still have faith in these players, but they need a new coach.

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They need the right coach and just because Garrett might be gone doesn't mean the right guy is coming in. The problem isn't Garrett, it's the guy that hired him and will hire the next one.

Do we think the players don't know what type of coaches the Cowboys have had, except Parcells? Everyone of them was willing to subrogate his ego and control to Booger. If you are a player, how are you going to process that? These guys are not used to the GM hanging out in all the meetings and there is a very good reason for the military having a no fraternization with the enlisted personnel from their officers. These players have no life experiences outside of football, they've never had real jobs in the real workplace and the check signer wants to hang out and pal around with them? Oh, that's who I answer to have to make happy.

If Booger had the balls, he's do what Brown and Crazy Al did, coach. Then there's no delineation in the line of authority.

Bobhaze said:

I would think that one of the hardest tasks Garrett has as this team’s HC is to prove to them that Jerry is only the “symbolic HC” or “face of the franchise”, lol.

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That is over, he is the face of the franchise. He's made sure of that and that was his plan.

cern said:

The surest clue of impending implosion is the announcement of the dreaded "closed door team meeting ". If and when such an occurrence happens, we'll know the end is near.

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With this owner, I do not see them calling a players only meeting. The Jets did that and beat the Cowboys so it is not the death knell. However, the Cowboys are not set up for a players meeting to open up. Just the opposite, they get someone to trash a player that's leaving to make the FO look better. They had McClay and Lee do that to Dez Bryant.

CouchCoach said:

That is over, he is the face of the franchise. He's made sure of that and that was his plan.

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How can these players respect their HC when it’s clear he doesn’t even have full power to either discipline or cut them? It’s an almost impossible task.

Bobhaze said:

How can these players respect their HC when it’s clear he doesn’t even have full power to either discipline or cut them? It’s an almost impossible task.

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And the next HC, he will have that power? Especially if it's someone like Riley, who's barely a HC at OU.

As I've said many times, Garrett is not the problem, the culture is the problem. The owner doesn't understand, the GM gig isn't "jocks to socks", not even close. GM's stay out of their HC's way because he's the one with his butt on the line. They know the players have to know who's in charge. Posters keep wondering why Garrett has been here so long and it's evident to me. How can Booger hold him responsible when he keeps interfering with the job? Think Garrett makes any big decisions on his own? Think the team doesn't know that?

"My OC will be remaining this season. (ring, ring ring) Um, a decision hasn't been made yet and goodness gracious, I don't even remember what I said. Linehan? Nope, can't say I know him". Now, imagine being one of these players and seeing that crap unfold. Think Garrett's coaches respect him as a coach or a man? His players do for Garrett what they're told to do for him by Big Daddy Booger. What a cluster.

Some feel he didn't do enough to help Wade when the team was circling the drain and now he might be getting some payback. Hell, from what I saw on All or Nothing, they won't miss Garrett and his well placed F bombs at all. The clown sounded like a kid cussing.

CouchCoach said:

They need the right coach and just because Garrett might be gone doesn't mean the right guy is coming in. The problem isn't Garrett, it's the guy that hired him and will hire the next one.

Do we think the players don't know what type of coaches the Cowboys have had, except Parcells? Everyone of them was willing to subrogate his ego and control to Booger. If you are a player, how are you going to process that? These guys are not used to the GM hanging out in all the meetings and there is a very good reason for the military having a no fraternization with the enlisted personnel from their officers. These players have no life experiences outside of football, they've never had real jobs in the real workplace and the check signer wants to hang out and pal around with them? Oh, that's who I answer to have to make happy.

If Booger had the balls, he's do what Brown and Crazy Al did, coach. Then there's no delineation in the line of authority.

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But does that mean the players lose faith in themselves? They are pampered and overpaid, handled with kid gloves. They probably have too much faith in themselves, as much as the GM does.

Asklesko said:

But does that mean the players lose faith in themselves? They are pampered and overpaid, handled with kid gloves. They probably have too much faith in themselves, as much as the GM does.

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There is very little accountability on the team; therefore, taking responsibility isn't required.

The GM's faith is all about one thing, himself. He's such a ego driven, self centered narcissist that they must be great because he picked them. He's such an ego driven clown that he's actually proud of himself having players that are the highest paid, or close to it. Other owners and GMs would pride themselves on making affordable contracts. But then, they don't make sure the price of their toys is fed to the public. Booger is just like some CEO and his trophy wife about his football team, no substance.

yes.
I see no evidence of a locker-room divided...or stuff like that.
and Ive said before....I have no doubt this team likes Garrett and respects him.....the difference is they don't fear him.
but as far as respect.....when every player to a man uses 1 or 2 Garrett-isms in post game interviews.....it tells me the players listen to what he says.
I dont think he's lost the locker-room.
and I do think these guys have each others back.
I see self-inflicted wounds and getting in their own way on sundays.....but I dont see a team quitting.

but what do i know.....i clean toilets and mopp floors for a living.

........ I think money ideals is why everyone plays on an island. Or at least top on the list of team disparages. Once a few individuals get a piece of the pie, greed kicks in now everyone wants a bite. We're not talking about couple of million. These guys are getting paid upward $20mill+. Look at Dak, wants to be top paid in NFL..... Crazy..!!!! Hasn't even sniffed a championship game yet. Coop hasnt signed his, because wants to out-due Julio Jones.

In return, the team chemistry is destroyed. It affects how they play, lose focus, play with chip on shoulder. It creates distance between players. Money is like personal dignity to many. Football becomes 2nd thought or just motions to run through.

Jerry is a gracious dude with money. Players come to Dallas for business opportunities, not to play football. Or at least make it seem that it is about football.