Jets ran effective play action averaging 3yds/carry

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We've been hearing that the reason we've cut back on play action is the running game was struggling so it wouldn't be effective. Meanwhile The Jets were plodding for 3yds/carry when they ran play action to Robby Anderson for a 92yd td. ALL of our LBers froze and both Awuzie and Heath paused to allow Anderson by them. Note to JG: the theory you have to be averaging 6yds/rush to use play action is mythology.
 

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We've been hearing that the reason we've cut back on play action is the running game was struggling so it wouldn't be effective. Meanwhile The Jets were plodding for 3yds/carry when they ran play action to Robby Anderson for a 92yd td. ALL of our LBers froze and both Awuzie and Heath paused to allow Anderson by them. Note to JG: the theory you have to be averaging 6yds/rush to use play action is mythology.
Excellent point.

We’ve also returned to our offense being totally predictable on first down. We ran the ball a whopping 16 times on first down against the Jets, and 12 times the play resulted in 2 yards or less. It means 12 or more times in that game our offense faced 2nd and 8...or worse. Four of those 12 running plays on first down resulted in negative yardage. Wow.
 

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They had our single coverage scheme beat before the snap. They lined up 2 wide out left with anderson out right by himself. Heath shaded to the side of the 2 wide receivers as he is taught by how they lined up. Awuzie knew he had his man to himself. The QB was able to see he got exactly what he wanted, anderson saw that too all pre-snap. Anderson is a heck of a track star, the play action made sure darnold had time to throw deep and it was off to the races.
 

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Excellent point.

We’ve also returned to our offense being totally predictable on first down. We ran the ball a whopping 16 times on first down against the Jets, and 12 times the play resulted in 2 yards or less. It means 12 or more times in that game our offense faced 2nd and 8...or worse. Four of those 12 running plays on first down resulted in negative yardage. Wow.

I was going to create a thread about this but you beat me to it. I honestly believe that Garrett thinks those 1 and 2yd runs are wearing down the defense which is why he will continue to run into 8 man fronts the entire game.
 

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They had our single coverage scheme beat before the snap. They lined up 2 wide out left with anderson out right by himself. Heath shaded to the side of the 2 wide receivers as he is taught by how they lined up. Awuzie knew he had his man to himself. The QB was able to see he got exactly what he wanted, anderson saw that too all pre-snap. Anderson is a heck of a track star, the play action made sure darnold had time to throw deep and it was off to the races.

Great point about the 2wr split left. Heath's angle seemed bad trying to make up the distance.
 

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We've been hearing that the reason we've cut back on play action is the running game was struggling so it wouldn't be effective. Meanwhile The Jets were plodding for 3yds/carry when they ran play action to Robby Anderson for a 92yd td. ALL of our LBers froze and both Awuzie and Heath paused to allow Anderson by them. Note to JG: the theory you have to be averaging 6yds/rush to use play action is mythology.
our defense bit on it and shouldnt have but BELL is threat or was.. its been our d thats the issue..good defenses dont bite on PA when you arent running well..

I think the big 92yard bomb after a failed 4th down by us and they were near the gl just shocked the defense,, completely unexpected and our S bit when he shouldnt have..bad defense yeppers..
 

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our defense bit on it and shouldnt have but BELL is threat or was.. its been our d thats the issue..good defenses dont bite on PA when you arent running well..

I think the big 92yard bomb after a failed 4th down by us and they were near the gl just shocked the defense,, completely unexpected and our S bit when he shouldnt have..bad defense yeppers..

We go from 4th and goal to giving up a 92yd td. That would crush the morale of any team. I think I counted 6 Cowboys who bit on that play action.
 

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We've been hearing that the reason we've cut back on play action is the running game was struggling so it wouldn't be effective. Meanwhile The Jets were plodding for 3yds/carry when they ran play action to Robby Anderson for a 92yd td. ALL of our LBers froze and both Awuzie and Heath paused to allow Anderson by them. Note to JG: the theory you have to be averaging 6yds/rush to use play action is mythology.
I disagree...that is just piss poor discipline. Blame the coaches or players...does not matter to me...but play action by that team SHOULD not be effective. I betcha the Jets won't do that to new England this Sunday!
 

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We've been hearing that the reason we've cut back on play action is the running game was struggling so it wouldn't be effective. Meanwhile The Jets were plodding for 3yds/carry when they ran play action to Robby Anderson for a 92yd td. ALL of our LBers froze and both Awuzie and Heath paused to allow Anderson by them. Note to JG: the theory you have to be averaging 6yds/rush to use play action is mythology.

I've posted several times that debunks that myth you have to have a good run game to run play action well. Football Ousiders has a good article on this. It's the threat of the run that makes it effective. Not that you are actually running well. It's actually common sense if you think about it.
 

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I've posted several times that debunks that myth you have to have a good run game to run play action well. Football Ousiders has a good article on this. It's the threat of the run that makes it effective. Not that you are actually running well. It's actually common sense if you think about it.

Yep the rest of the league figures this out to their advantage. These are the things that Garrett loses out on with his primitive approach to football.
 

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I disagree...that is just piss poor discipline. Blame the coaches or players...does not matter to me...but play action by that team SHOULD not be effective. I betcha the Jets won't do that to new England this Sunday!

Correct it shouldn't be effective. But it was and teams see that. Ultimately though it's up to the coaches to fix it and they haven't.
 

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Don't understand why our LB's getting isolated on Wrs downfield and having DBs playing 10 yards downfield. Do they ever play bump and run anymore?
 
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We've been hearing that the reason we've cut back on play action is the running game was struggling so it wouldn't be effective.

That reason is garbage.

Against NO, where the running game was the worst, but for one penalty 1st down passing always yielded a completion of decent yardage.
 

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They had our single coverage scheme beat before the snap. They lined up 2 wide out left with anderson out right by himself. Heath shaded to the side of the 2 wide receivers as he is taught by how they lined up. Awuzie knew he had his man to himself. The QB was able to see he got exactly what he wanted, anderson saw that too all pre-snap. Anderson is a heck of a track star, the play action made sure darnold had time to throw deep and it was off to the races.


That bomb and off to the races should have never happened.
Our right DE was held big time.
He went out wide and looped back under, the OT had to hook / arm bar him around the waist to prevent the DE from leveling their QB.
Do you think they would have called us for this obvious hold and took the points off the board?
things that make you go...Hmmm
 
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