News: Report: Prescott has come down to 33-35ish in terms of annual value for upcoming contract

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Washington botched Cousins because they didn't want to sign him long term but didn't look for another QB while he was on the franchise tag. Had they used those two franchise tag years to bring in a QB other than Alex Smith they just might have turned out OK. Cousins hasn't shown he was worth a long term deal so Washington at least got that part right.

As far as Dak, Dallas wants to sign him to a long term deal so they will fight over money and length of contract until they agree.
 

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It needs to be the non-exclusive franchise tag.

anyone estimate the value of each...
- exclusive franchise tag
- non exclusive tag
- transition tag
 
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mattjames2010 said:
Embarrassing that the NFL has allowed QB contracts to get like this. A freakin' bus driver, a middling QB, can get elite QB money.

Eventually owners have to start understanding that giving QBs these big contracts hurt more than they help in the long term.
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The comedy is thick with this one.

Anymore wildly inaccurate comments that tickle my funny bone please tag me so I can have a good laugh and feel sorry for you at the same time.
 
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MikeB80 said:
75 dollars to park is embarrassing, 7.50 soda's are embarrassing, 15 dollar hamburgers are embarrassing. PSL's are embarrassing.

The players deserve more money than they are currently getting.
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Seems like you don't grasp simple logic that player salaries have a direct correlation to prices.
 
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Broges74 said:
The comedy is thick with this one.

Anymore wildly inaccurate comments that tickle my funny bone please tag me so I can have a good laugh and feel sorry for you at the same time.
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You tried. You failed.
 
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Broges74 said:
I know Matt. You're nearly impossible to feel sorry for.
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You're still trying really hard, but you're big mad and this is why you're incapable of coming back with a valid counter.

I have no interest in your weak ad-homs that are boomer tier in nature. It's boring. Up your game.
 
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rocyaice said:
What’s the point though? Like why pay 33 if you don’t want to commit long term to him? I can see if you had a bette option behind him waiting in the wings like a Brees and Rivers situation....
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This isn't hard to figure out. If you don't see an immediate replacement for Dak in FA or the draft, or having a chance at any, you have Dak on a tag. You also give Dak another year to prove himself he can go from middling to good/great consistently.

I, personally, would let Dak walk even if this results in a down year for us. I don't want attached to an Alex Smith clone - but I see no reason if Dak continues his inconsistent play to dish out a 30+ million yearly contract when you'd have serious doubts about him being THE guy to get you to the Super Bowl. Get another year out of him before making the decision.
 
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mattjames2010 said:
This isn't hard to figure out. If you don't see an immediate replacement for Dak in FA or the draft, or having a chance at any, you have Dak on a tag. You also give Dak another year to prove himself he can go from middling to good/great consistently.

I, personally, would let Dak walk even if this results in a down year for us. I don't want attached to an Alex Smith clone - but I see no reason if Dak continues his inconsistent play to dish out a 30+ million yearly contract when you'd have serious doubts about him being THE guy to get you to the Super Bowl. Get another year out of him before making the decision.
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Through this point? You know what you have in Dak. It just makes no sense to spend 33 million on him if you don’t think he’s good enough to sign long term.
 
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I hope Dak gets every penny from the Jones he can ...... As much as he is disrespected by this fan base he might as well make his money or get it from somebody else
 
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still say they meet in the middle.
Dak wanted 40.
Cowboys 30.
they meet at 35.
 
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mattjames2010 said:
....yes, without a long term commitment.
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That doesn't make sense to me. The whole rationale for not paying Dak is that a big cap hit will cost other players. A franchise tag immediately drops $33 million on the salary cap so you are immediately losing the players you were so worried about. A longterm deal would allow you to gradually increase Dak's salary as the cap goes up.
 
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jaythecowboy said:
That doesn't make sense to me. The whole rationale for not paying Dak is that a big cap hit will cost other players. A franchise tag immediately drops $33 million on the salary cap so you are immediately losing the players you were so worried about. A longterm deal would allow you to gradually increase Dak's salary as the cap goes up.
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Don't give me other people's argument. They aren't me.

I don't want Dak paid at all because he won't help us win a Super Bowl. And what is hard to understand that taking a one year cap hit is better than committing to a guy for 4-5 years making a little more than the franchise tag he'd get for one?

One is a long term impact, the other is short term. This....this shouldn't be hard to understand.

If Dak gets 35 million a year, that's still going to be a big cap hit in 2-3 years. Even if a Mahomes contract comes and blows every other contract out of the water, Dak's deal will still be costly because he will never amount to being an elite QB.
 
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mattjames2010 said:
Don't give me other people's argument. They aren't me.

I don't want Dak paid at all because he won't help us win a Super Bowl. And what is hard to understand that taking a one year cap hit is better than committing to a guy for 4-5 years making a little more than the franchise tag he'd get for one?

One is a long term impact, the other is short term. This....this shouldn't be hard to understand.

If Dak gets 35 million a year, that's still going to be a big cap hit in 2-3 years. Even if a Mahomes contract comes and blows every other contract out of the water, Dak's deal will still be costly because he will never amount to being an elite QB.
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What makes most sense imo is to get Dak that long-term extension with a 3 year out, which is the most fiscally responsible thing to do. You take advantage of the O-line and offensive weapons, without having to reset and coddle a rookie QB. If Dak implodes, that means the team imploded and we will be in a situation to get a new QB within the 3 year out. I don't see that happening, but it is a possible scenario. Him continuing to improve is also a possible scenario in which you are convinced won't happen.
 
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