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CPOE (Completion Percentage Over Expected)
from NFL's "NextGen Stats"
1 Wilson +7.3
2 Prescott +7.2
3 Cousins +5.9
4 Stafford + 3.4
5 Watson +3.3

of top 32 QB in attempts

Dak is 7.2 percentage points above his expected completion percentage (based on receiver separation, QB pressure, and target depth on each attempt) this season.
Good stats again, but I think people were really just talking about last nights games and just some off the throws he missed deep. Short to mid-range seemed fine.
 

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Oh boy, here come the comp % charts. :rolleyes:

Dak has shown some improvement this season but I wouldn't be hitching my' Dak is Great' wagon to last nights performance.
 

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Sometime during the bye week. Not sure when though exactly. I've never had mines taken out so I don't know how long you have to take medication and how much it effects you, but I know its worser for some than others. I'll have to find the tweet that says he got them taken out...

They gave me two days worth when I had mine removed. Taken as directed I felt great and alert.
 

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Oh boy, here come the comp % charts. :rolleyes:

Dak has shown some improvement this season but I wouldn't be hitching my' Dak is Great' wagon to last nights performance.

Those same stats have been used against him as well, so why shouldn't people use the same stats that some have used against him? As I mentioned I do not put him in the elite group of QB but I see a QB who is improving and gaining more and more confidence and control over this offense. Was Dak might great? No but he stepped up and made some big plays when this team needed it the most.
 

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on the season he is hitting 69% completion rate that is as high as the top QB's in this league, these are not dink and dunk passes when you see the avg completion is as high as anyone in the NFL. I have never placed him as an elite QB but he is much more than a JAG as some love to claim.

I am aware of his completion percentage Dooms. I've read what you posted. He still misses wide open throws. The TD throw to a wide open Jarwin was a great catch by Jarwin but a terrible throw by Dak. Wasn't a hard throw. Say what you want but as I said, I'm going to watch the game again to confirm if I saw what I think I saw.
 

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I think he only missed deep balls and many were not open anyway. The TD to Jarwin and Gallup were low but overall he was acccurate on the short and itermediate stuff.

The int was mind-boggling - rookie stuff!
 

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I am aware of his completion percentage Dooms. I've read what you posted. He still misses wide open throws. The TD throw to a wide open Jarwin was a great catch by Jarwin but a terrible throw by Dak. Wasn't a hard throw. Say what you want but as I said, I'm going to watch the game again to confirm if I saw what I think I saw.

Yes great catch by Jarwin but again I watch other QB throw less than great passes and WR or TE make the great catch yet do not catch the same hell as Dak. The completion percentage is overall the 1 or 2 poor throws does not change the overall. saying 1 pass makes him inaccurate then what about all the other throws that are on the money? Brees makes the low throw and receiver makes the catch we hear how great Drew is but Dak the one throw proves he is inaccurate? Sorry I don't get that
 

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CPOE (Completion Percentage Over Expected)
from NFL's "NextGen Stats"
1 Wilson +7.3
2 Prescott +7.2
3 Cousins +5.9
4 Stafford + 3.4
5 Watson +3.3

of top 32 QB in attempts

Dak is 7.2 percentage points above his expected completion percentage (based on receiver separation, QB pressure, and target depth on each attempt) this season.
Yeah and he was about +1 last night I think so he was not as good as normal last night.
 

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Those same stats have been used against him as well, so why shouldn't people use the same stats that some have used against him? As I mentioned I do not put him in the elite group of QB but I see a QB who is improving and gaining more and more confidence and control over this offense. Was Dak might great? No but he stepped up and made some big plays when this team needed it the most.

I'm one of those who sees comp% as useful tool but doesn't tell near a complete picture with regard to overall accuracy. It is used here far more as the be all end all argument to prove Dak is one of the most accurate QB's in the league. That was the reason for my sarcasm.

Dak has shown improvement this year and I've given him credit. Last night however was not his best work this season and I personally would not use it as an example of his improvement in accuracy. That does not take anything away from the good things he did. He's just had better games than that this season is all.
 

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Yes great catch by Jarwin but again I watch other QB throw less than great passes and WR or TE make the great catch yet do not catch the same hell as Dak. The completion percentage is overall the 1 or 2 poor throws does not change the overall. saying 1 pass makes him inaccurate then what about all the other throws that are on the money? Brees makes the low throw and receiver makes the catch we hear how great Drew is but Dak the one throw proves he is inaccurate? Sorry I don't get that

I don't care about other QBs. I care about Dak and what I see from him is inaccuracy on easy passes all too often. The throws he misses on are not tough throws, which is the difference I see in he and most others. Yes, other QBs miss but they miss on tough throws, more time then not. Dak, for whatever reason, misses easy open throws. No idea why. Well, yes I do but, it's another discussion.

What about all the throws that are "On the money"? Who cares, he's supposed to throw passes that are on the money. That's why he is a QB in the NFL. Big deal.
 

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I'm one of those who sees comp% as useful tool but doesn't tell near a complete picture with regard to overall accuracy. It is used here far more as the be all end all argument to prove Dak is one of the most accurate QB's in the league. That was the reason for my sarcasm.

Dak has shown improvement this year and I've given him credit. Last night however was not his best work this season and I personally would not use it as an example of his improvement in accuracy. That does not take anything away from the good things he did. He's just had better games than that this season is all.

I don't think it was his best either but fact is even not at his best he throws 3 TD passes, made adjustments on several playing including a couple of the TD where you can see him calling the play off based on how the giants were lining up. Was last night perfection? not at all was it poor NO
 

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I don't think it was his best either but fact is even not at his best he throws 3 TD passes, made adjustments on several playing including a couple of the TD where you can see him calling the play off based on how the giants were lining up. Was last night perfection? not at all was it poor NO

You're making too much sense...it's making him malfunction.
 

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I don't care about other QBs. I care about Dak and what I see from him is inaccuracy on easy passes all too often. The throws he misses on are not tough throws, which is the difference I see in he and most others. Yes, other QBs miss but they miss on tough throws, more time then not. Dak, for whatever reason, misses easy open throws. No idea why. Well, yes I do but, it's another discussion.

What about all the throws that are "On the money"? Who cares, he's supposed to throw passes that are on the money. That's why he is a QB in the NFL. Big deal.

I do too yet you mentioned Romo and Aikman saying well you can't compare because the game is different yet all I am doing to comparing him to those who play in this league now and Dak numbers are as good as any QB in the league. Elite? No but Dak is better than what his critics seem to think, defense have figured him out? BS, he can't throw deep BS all he does is dink and dunk BS he has knocked down a lot of the BS thrown his way. I'm not saying those are your feeling but what has been said often around here
 

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I don't think it was his best either but fact is even not at his best he throws 3 TD passes, made adjustments on several playing including a couple of the TD where you can see him calling the play off based on how the giants were lining up. Was last night perfection? not at all was it poor NO

I was talking strictly about accuracy.
 

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You're making too much sense...it's making him malfunction.

Get your homework done and go to bed. Apparently the time change and staying up past your bedtime to watch the game have taken a toll on you developing brain.
 

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I was talking strictly about accuracy.

He is not going to hit 100%and yes he has missed throws, I watched a lot of games and these others miss throws as well. They put the stats to get a view of overall play not 1 throw here or there but overall throws over the course of a game as well as the season. I'm not going to sit here and say Dak has not missed a throw or be late on a pass or not pick up a WR who may break open late but then I see that around the league. I think there is more Dak can learn and improve on but I do continue to see progress not digression
 

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Get your homework done and go to bed. Apparently the time change and staying up past your bedtime to watch the game have taken a toll on you developing brain.

Go to bed at 3:12 PM. Makes no sense whatsoever. You really are malfunctioning. I'd recommend getting a check up :thumbup:.
 
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