The praise Dak is receiving for that game is ridiculous

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It appears that Phil here learned the word disingenuous recently and now is trying to use it in every post without actually saying anything at all.

The hate slobberers are really have a tough season with Dak showing out.
 

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If this the knowledge you got you’re not a good learner. You didn’t let hate turn you blind but being a grown behind groupie which is worse. Just because I don’t kiss Daks butt like y’all dont make me a hater. Stop with the laziness buddy. I just think he’s average. If that is now hate in the new age groupie world guess I’m blind and a hater but rather that than be a grown male groupie like some of yall.
Phil, there are in between areas, like not being sold on Dak, but knowing he played a very good game Sunday. He was putting the ball exactly where it needed to be most of the time, and extending plays to help the receivers get open enough for him to get it there. It's true, the Vikings were keying in on stopping the run, but that wasn't leaving the receivers wide open.
 

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And is the same problem that this fanbase has when it comes to detail and accuracy.

The Vikings are a team that is doing well this year and we lost to them. Dak had a net positive game.

That the Vikings are 7-3 does not mean that they have a good pass defense. They are middle of the pack in Pass defense with an average rating of 93.5. Conversely, they are 7th in the league in yards allowed the run.

This team hasn't defeated a single team with a pass defense rating under 91.7 (Eagles). That should stand out to us given that of our remaining opponents only the Eagles, Lions, and Commanders have a 91.7 defense QB rating or higher. The Rams, the Bears, the Bills, and the Patriots are going to be more interesting games for Dak.

Just like I wasn't buying the fool's gold that this team was good after beating... checks my notes: The Giants, Commanders, and Dolphins... I'm not buying the fool's gold on Dak, having success against a team that wasn't great against the pass and dared him to pass.

The worst thing about this 5-4 run is that people still aren't paying attention. It's been 9 games. We've only beaten one team with a winning record. And that team barely has a winning record. That should tell you something. We've had an unbelievably easy schedule this year and this team isn't 7-2 or 8-1, it's 5-4. That should tell you something.

Huts doesn't it? To see you proven wrong time and time again. :lmao2::lmao2:
 

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Phil, there are in between areas, like not being sold on Dak, but knowing he played a very good game Sunday. He was putting the ball exactly where it needed to be most of the time, and extending plays to help the receivers get open enough for him to get it there. It's true, the Vikings were keying in on stopping the run, but that wasn't leaving the receivers wide open.
Who said he didn’t play a good game. I mean me when I say who said he didn’t play a good game? I’m confused as to your point.
 

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Gee I'll bet the Cowboys and I know I would have like to see that game you're thinking of because the game the rest of us watched saw Prescott under pressure all night long and having to make many throws on the run because of that pressure. Because you're a Prescott hater your brain tells your eyes what it wants them to see not what is actually happening.
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You’ve gotten to the point where you can’t even tell your Madden from real life. He was barely under any pressure at all. Stop embarrassing yourself, clown.
 

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Talk about spinning. :muttley:

*Sees stat that contradicts his feelings*
*Dismisses stat*

If 44 games is a "small sample size" then drawing conclusions about a team over a 16 game season is a complete waste of time.
44 games over 10 years is a small sample size, yes... especially when the NFL offense has changed dramatically over those ten years. Read closer.
 

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I had two big issues with Dak that night.

1. He started slow yet again, and if they don't drop the pick six he gave them, it's 21-0 and the game is over early.

2. With the Vikings crashing down on Zeke all night, why did he not once opt to run on the RPO? Especially late.

Other than that, he played very well. He just needs to learn how to play 4 quarters instead of it always being 2 or 3.
 

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Who said he didn’t play a good game. I mean me when I say who said he didn’t play a good game? I’m confused as to your point.
It seems you're going off on people for taking that stance. Am I misunderstanding your point of view?
 

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And is the same problem that this fanbase has when it comes to detail and accuracy.

The Vikings are a team that is doing well this year and we lost to them. Dak had a net positive game.

That the Vikings are 7-3 does not mean that they have a good pass defense. They are middle of the pack in Pass defense with an average rating of 93.5. Conversely, they are 7th in the league in yards allowed the run.

This team hasn't defeated a single team with a pass defense rating under 91.7 (Eagles). That should stand out to us given that of our remaining opponents only the Eagles, Lions, and Commanders have a 91.7 defense QB rating or higher. The Rams, the Bears, the Bills, and the Patriots are going to be more interesting games for Dak.

Just like I wasn't buying the fool's gold that this team was good after beating... checks my notes: The Giants, Commanders, and Dolphins... I'm not buying the fool's gold on Dak, having success against a team that wasn't great against the pass and dared him to pass.

The worst thing about this 5-4 run is that people still aren't paying attention. It's been 9 games. We've only beaten one team with a winning record. And that team barely has a winning record. That should tell you something. We've had an unbelievably easy schedule this year and this team isn't 7-2 or 8-1, it's 5-4. That should tell you something.


From my perspective, it is not so much about praise for Dak, but rather understanding that Dak is not the problem with this team. His throws were on target and crisp.

The rest of your post is 100% spot on. We are an average team at this point, and I really believe this has to do with coaching. The whole coaching staff needs to be gutted, and this includes Richard and Moore. Some people are impressed with Moore because we have seen some creativity after years in the doldrums with Linehan. The truth is, there are a bunch of guys out there that can bring BOTH experience and creativity. The defense has talent, but what the hell kind of scheme do we have anyway? Even the broadcasters say it is the same every week. Special Teams is atrocious...ATROCIOUS. Kick Returns are never even attempted and our longest punt return this year is what? 23 yards? And when we do make a great special teams play, the yellow flag is ALWAYS on the turf.

Watching last night's game (Seattle/SF) made it abundantly clear how far away we are from being CONSISTENTLY COMPETITIVE. And the only way to get there is competent coaching.
 

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Weak take by soft individual(s) trying/wanting to be right like true narcissists.

Maybe next time snow flakes.
 

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If this the knowledge you got you’re not a good learner. You didn’t let hate turn you blind but being a grown behind groupie which is worse. Just because I don’t kiss Daks butt like y’all dont make me a hater. Stop with the laziness buddy. I just think he’s average. If that is now hate in the new age groupie world guess I’m blind and a hater but rather that than be a grown male groupie like some of yall.

Here's your average for you. Going into Sunday's game Prescott had a 104.2 passer rating which had him at 8th in the league of all QB's Gee if he was just average he would have been 15th or 16th since there are 32 starting QB's. Then there's espn's QBR and gee Prescott had the highest in the entire league. Again gee how does just an average QB pull that off? Lastly going into that game the Cowboys had the highest rated offense in the ENTIRE league and just average QB's can do that too I guess especially when Elliott has had 4 games with rushing totals of 53,35,62 and 47. Ya tell me again how Prescott is just an average QB and then the rest of can laugh at you some more.
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I see you're saying that the defense doesn't have to do their job because if Prescott is that franchise QB he'll make up for it. Also when Elliott isn't playing anywhere close to where he has in the past which helps the passing game being able to do play action that shouldn't matter either. According to you if Prescott is the franchise QB he should be able to win games all by himself with no help from anyone else. Give us a heads up when you wake up from this dream you're having.
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What part of once in awhile is confusing to you? It is his job to carry the team and occasionally win some games where everything is not right, not always but sometimes (that is what a franchise QB does). But more to your point how about the game against the Saints where our D held them to 12 points and we couldn't win the game
 

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As I said in my thread, anyone who doesn’t think Dak is a franchise QB is a freakin Moron. Same as anyone who doesn’t think he’s at least top 10. He’s proven that for 3 plus years. Some folks are just trolls or blinded by their hate agendas.
 

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It seems you're going off on people for taking that stance. Am I misunderstanding your point of view?
It seems unfortunately on this one you’re lost in the sauce my friend. You’re clearly misunderstanding my point. I’m saying people are on some Dak strong arm tactics around here using disingenuous arguments. Someone says Dak can and sometimes should audible plays the Dak crew turns that into some other wild stuff that has nothing to do with what was said. It’s all just to absolve this top qb to them of any blame. That’s what I’m “going off” on when people turn things clearly stated into some made up argument to “win” an online argument.

I had a poster ask me did I think Dak had a bad game when nothing I posted was about him having a bad game at all.
 

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You’ve gotten to the point where you can’t even tell your Madden from real life. He was barely under any pressure at all. Stop embarrassing yourself, clown.

So all the plays they showed on replays where Prescott was running and throwing and still hitting his receivers really didn't happen? He didn't do any of those great escapes when other QB's would have been sacked but he managed to get away and complete passes really didn't happen. Maybe try watching the game next time.
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Here's your average for you. Going into Sunday's game Prescott had a 104.2 passer rating which had him at 8th in the league of all QB's Gee if he was just average he would have been 15th or 16th since there are 32 starting QB's. Then there's espn's QBR and gee Prescott had the highest in the entire league. Again gee how does just an average QB pull that off? Lastly going into that game the Cowboys had the highest rated offense in the ENTIRE league and just average QB's can do that too I guess especially when Elliott has had 4 games with rushing totals of 53,35,62 and 47. Ya tell me again how Prescott is just an average QB and then the rest of can laugh at you some more.
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Buddy you used the GB game as some evidence of Smith Jr putting up stats. You’re just a stat parrot. Nothing you say regarding stats means nothing.
 

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What gets lost in all this is the fact that during the game, They even quoted coach zimmer as saying to his Corners "we're going to have to leave you one on one out there because we have to stop zeke"

Durrr.. zeke sucks and Dak carried us..

What was zeke supposed to do with the Vikings defense taking away the run?
That left the play action open all night and the corners on an island but hey, logic and reason is lost on most people.

Dak played well given the circumstances but let's not act like he was facing an exotic defense that was hell bent on stopping Dak at all costs.

The Vikings strategy worked. They won.
 

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What's ridiculous is you starting a thread with some crap about net positive game. Please tell me what you think the score would have been if it wasn't for Dak.

About 100 - Nil to MV prolly.

Our pudding belly ewok RB was in syrup legs mode for most of the night coupled with no plays to make the space, plus the pewkings were set up to stop ewoks.

Dak kept it interesting until "Who-ever"* decided we should run some running plays at "THAT" point in the 4th quarter.....

* Claptain Carrot
* Our new off coord
*A combination of them both( you tell me) either way it was a failure.
 
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