Dak should carry this offense

Diehardblues

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No doubt Daks performance kept us in the game.

But relying on our passing game hasn’t been a winning formula for this team against the more Elite teams. It doesn’t mask our other weaknesses.

Ball control TOP has been a winning formula for us on both sides of the Ball. And why these teams are focusing on shutting it down.
 

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Unfortunately.......How's that 5-4 looking for you right now?
Not so good!!!!

Remember when Darnold picked apart our defense and he said Dallas basically didn’t change any of their looks and everybody blamed our coaching. But when the Vikings basically give Dak the same looks over and over again, suddenly the QB performance becomes legendary..
 

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If we are intent on our passing game carrying us then we must get off to faster starts. That means Dak must be sharp from the onset which he often needs a little time to get on his stride.

And putting our opponents in a position they must throw to catch up. Much like we all too often against better teams fall victim to.
 

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tied for 1st in the East with the tie breaker in our advantage over your weak-*** eagles.
despite the tough loss....still in it.
how's your eagles?

Yo be fair, the Eagles LB core injured and one of their CBd just came off an injury and they were a bottom 20 pass defense in yards given up.
 

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tied for 1st in the East with the tie breaker in our advantage over your weak-*** eagles.
despite the tough loss....still in it.
how's your eagles?

Guess my response touched a nerve...don't worry bud reality has a way of hitting you in the face sooner or later....
 

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Yo be fair, the Eagles LB core injured and one of their CBd just came off an injury and they were a bottom 20 pass defense in yards given up.

Not that I think it will matter but if it does no way we survive in Philly in week 16....
 

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Remember when Darnold picked apart our defense and he said Dallas basically didn’t change any of their looks and everybody blamed our coaching. But when the Vikings basically give Dak the same looks over and over again, suddenly the QB performance becomes legendary..
It appears we are forgetting why we begin pounding the rock. It was to take pressure off of our QB and leave our defense on the sidelines longer.

Daks performance was impressive much like we watched in Romo era many times but it hasn’t been a sustainable method of success for us.
 

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Yo be fair, the Eagles LB core injured and one of their CBd just came off an injury and they were a bottom 20 pass defense in yards given up.
screw philly.
we'll kick their *** like we usually do.
but the fact your defending philly speaks volumes.
:starspin:5>1:starspin:
 

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Guess my response touched a nerve...don't worry bud reality has a way of hitting you in the face sooner or later....
we will beat your eagles and win this division.
thats not a prediction.
:starspin:THATS A SPOILER :starspin:
 

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I know your feelings are hurt, but it isn’t going to change the fact you basically reveal your have no clue about the statistics you think support your point, while thinking they do. it’s called normalization of stats and PERCENTAGES mean jack squat especially when the number of attempts is that far apart.

Zeke’s success against stacked boxes or 7 in the box doesn’t in any way prove that the Vikings weren’t set on stopping Zeke. The Vikings could still have men in the box and we THREW IT. The Vikings were pretty much content to play one deep safety and man on the outside all day long, like pretty much every defense we play against.

Kamara with all his ‘broken tackles’ is averaging 4.4 YPC, the same as Zeke. Basic logic will tell you the amount Zeke runs, defenses key in to stop him. That means multiple defenders are constantly playing the run and containing Zeke, so he’s being tackled constantly by multiple defenders. Those that have less opportunities are generally operating with more space, thus it’s easier for them to break tackles. Plus, Zeke is a power back and often runs into contact. It’s a completely different style.

Barkley is a home run hitter, but he constantly runs 1 or 2 yards, unlike Zeke. He’s not even wearing defenses down like Zeke and he’s way better than Kamara.

Lol don't give up your day job.

You say it's called normalization, and then right after say %'s don't mean squat. Which %'s normalize volume. Lmao. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

I know youre butt hurt you looking so bad with Dak performing as well as he is, while Zeke doing the opposite. Just say you were wrong again and move on.

Not knowing that breaking more tackles and being more elusive, and them still averaging same ypc goes back to the difference in Oline performance is a really bad look for you.

They arent keying in on Zeke, he's seeing less stacked boxes than both Kamara and Barkley so yet again you're wrong. And this is despite Zeke easily having the most redzone Carries, so his box % should be artificially high just from that.
When you've lost a debate just make stuff up and hope it sticks. Thinking teams key in on Zeke more than Barkley highlights how stupid one can truly be.

Sorry for shooting all your fake points down again, I'm starting to lose hope on you. You just don't seem to progress on understanding football. It's sad.
 
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No doubt Daks performance kept us in the game.

But relying on our passing game hasn’t been a winning formula for this team against the more Elite teams. It doesn’t mask our other weaknesses.

Ball control TOP has been a winning formula for us on both sides of the Ball. And why these teams are focusing on shutting it down.

We had ball control TOP on Sunday with 3 minutes and 7 seconds per drive, which would be the 3rd highest in the league.

Sorry this is wrong too.

All you have to say it that our defense, despite our offense keeping them off the field, and our rushing attack failed us and we should have won.
 

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We had ball control TOP on Sunday with 3 minutes and 7 seconds per drive, which would be the 3rd highest in the league.

Sorry this is wrong too.

All you have to say it that our defense, despite our offense keeping them off the field, and our rushing attack failed us and we should have won.
TOP is for the entire game not per possession.

I’d agree our rushing game failed us. But it was a focus of their defense to shut it down.
 
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TOP is for the entire game not per possession.

Wow yikes. Okay, let's see if you can put it all together.

Okay so our offense has the ball control, TOP game down to a T on Sunday. The third highest in the league per drive. Meaning the defense was rested.

NOW, how could we lose the TOP battle despite our offense doing such a good job at controlling the clock?
 

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Wow yikes. Okay, let's see if you can put it all together.

Okay so our offense has the ball control, TOP game down to a T on Sunday. The third highest in the league per drive. Meaning the defense was rested.

NOW, how could we lose the TOP battle despite our offense doing such a good job at controlling the clock?
TOP
Vikings 33:27
Cowboys 26:33

https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=401128041
 

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You should know that you’re considered a joke here.
Little does Mammidog know(and I mean very very little) that if your team scores 24 points, on 8 drives that your team should win the game every week. That's 3 points per drive. The highest in the league? 3.08 points per drive with second being 2.65 ppd.

It blows my mind that that little grouping of guys, they know who they are, are so incredibly uneducated. They literally arent capable of looking past bulk stats(unless it's total passing yards since Dak ranks highly) lmao. Their inability to think anything beyond surface level is truly sad. You cant go far in life without it.
 

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Do you need to phone a friend? I'm sure 99% of guys on here can answer it pretty easily.

@Nav22 want to help him?

just a guess. It might have something to do with the defense allowing 150+ rushing yards and allowing the Vikings offense to convert on 3rd down too much. As well as, the cowboys defense giving up an INCREDIBLY high points per drive.

Not to mention, the cowboys defense forcing zero turnovers.

none of which, the cowboys offense has any control over.
 

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Little does Mammidog know(and I mean very very little) that if your team scores 24 points, on 8 drives that your team should win the game every week. That's 3 points per drive. The highest in the league? 3.08 points per drive with second being 2.65 ppd.

It blows my mind that that little grouping of guys, they know who they are, are so incredibly uneducated. They literally arent capable of looking past bulk stats(unless it's total passing yards since Dak ranks highly) lmao. Their inability to think anything beyond surface level is truly sad. You cant go far in life without it.
I’ve never seen this stat before. Total TOP has always been the measuring stick. This appears to be a stat to support an opinion or narrative.

I’d like to see how this is measured across the league.

And 23 points is the average league wide. 24 points isn’t a bar to measure certain victory. This is beginning to sound like the arguments we had with Romo. Lol
 
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