Dak should carry this offense

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Controlling TOP is very simple. Pound the rock much like the Vikings did.

And I use IMO so as not to come off as though my beliefs are factual which you accused me of earlier.

The defense getting off the field also plays into controlling TOP. Not allowing the opponent to convert 3rd downs. Creating turnovers, etc. That is also a fact. And it’s another fact the the Cowboys defense did an abysmally poor job of getting off the field against the Vikings. Which is what led to the cowboys losing TOP.

Those are facts.
 

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Controlling TOP is very simple. Pound the rock much like the Vikings did.

And I use IMO so as not to come off as though my beliefs are factual which you accused me of earlier.
Y'all heard it here first folks.

All you have to do is pound the rock to control TOP, that's all it takes. Does "pound the rock" mean anything? Not really. Just like "prolific passer" didn't mean anything either.

Even if the other team also "pounds the rock" YOU WIN THE TOP because you thought of it first to pound that rock baby!
 

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The defense has regressed this year , they have allowed time consuming drives even when the opposition settles for a field goal or doesn't score. It usually comes at the most inopportune times , right after we score or the first few drives of the game. How can you protect a defense on the 1st or 2nd drive of the game when the D is getting gashed in the running game. The D needs to get it's own self off the field and not give up long scoring drives from the get go. To me the D is putting the O in a hole. A couple stalled drives that ate some time off the clock (not 3 and outs) shouldn't be an excuse for the defense to get bullied down the field. The D has regressed and the O can only help so much. We need a better D , maybe a cheaper RB at this point so others can be signed and D help acquired. I hope I'm proved wrong but after the Rams playoff game last year the FO put their priorities in the wrong place. We couldn't stop the run, we couldn't run. What has changed since then when we play good teams?
 

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Umm, we repeatedly lose when the opposing defense shuts down zeke. See the new orleans game, the jets game and the vikings game.
I think we lose when they shut down the running game not because Dak's poor but because we'll keep running Zeke over and over again into brick walls for no gain or negative yardage...
 

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I think we lose when they shut down the running game not because Dak's poor but because we'll keep running Zeke over and over again into brick walls for no gain or negative yardage...
A side effect to his large contract, unfortauntely.
 

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Umm, we repeatedly lose when the opposing defense shuts down zeke. See the new orleans game, the jets game and the vikings game.
Zeke had 28 carries for 105 yards against the Jets.

Your narrative seems..... weak

Now would we have won if we didnt run our ineffective back 28 times who couldn't muster 4 ypc? Sure. That seems likely.
 
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The defense getting off the field also plays into controlling TOP. Not allowing the opponent to convert 3rd downs. Creating turnovers, etc. That is also a fact. And it’s another fact the the Cowboys defense did an abysmally poor job of getting off the field against the Vikings. Which is what led to the cowboys losing TOP.

Those are facts.
I agree.

But how would you suggest given the fact our defense is a concern with TOP use our offense to help mask our defensive weakness?
 

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Y'all heard it here first folks.

All you have to do is pound the rock to control TOP, that's all it takes. Does "pound the rock" mean anything? Not really. Just like "prolific passer" didn't mean anything either.

Even if the other team also "pounds the rock" YOU WIN THE TOP because you thought of it first to pound that rock baby!
Laugh it off all you want. Dominating in the running game has been a proven success for this team. And why defenses are focusing on stopping it.
 

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Zeke had 28 carries for 105 yards against the Jets.

Your narrative seems..... weak

Now would we have won if we didnt run our ineffective back 28 times who couldn't muster 4 ypc? Sure. That seems likely.
No, not likely and why we were forced to try and win it on Daks arm. He made a valiant effort and performed well. Without we wouldn’t have had a shot.

But it doesn’t appear to be a winning formula for us because it leaves our defense on the field too long.

When we control the overall TOP we are masking our weaknesses on defense. It’s why opposing defenses are focusing on shutting down our running because of the effects it has overall.
 

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Laugh it off all you want. Dominating in the running game has been a proven success for this team. And why defenses are focusing on stopping it.

We are all laughing.

I'm assuming you are referring to 2016. Okay let's go with it.

In 2016, our offensive TOP per drive? 3 minutes and 3 seconds. LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD ON SUNDAY BEHIND DAK.

End. Of. Discussion.
 

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No, not likely and why we were forced to try and win it on Daks arm. He made a valiant effort and performed well. Without we wouldn’t have had a shot.

But it doesn’t appear to be a winning formula for us because it leaves our defense on the field too long.

When we control the overall TOP we are masking our weaknesses on defense. It’s why opposing defenses are focusing on shutting down our running because of the effects it has overall.

Yes, yes likely.

Please shut the hell up and stop repeating the same stuff over and over.

You can't control the overall TOP with only the offense, a Kindergartener knows this. If your offense has elite TOP then they've done all they can regarding TOP. There is no getting better than elite. The fact you can't understand this is just absolutely damning to your reputation.
 

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We are all laughing.

I'm assuming you are referring to 2016. Okay let's go with it.

In 2016, our offensive TOP per drive? 3 minutes and 3 seconds. LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD ON SUNDAY BEHIND DAK.

End. Of. Discussion.
I’m referring to Total TOP. That’s for the game.
 

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I’m referring to Total TOP. That’s for the game.

Explain how pounding the rock on the offensive side of the ball, is going to help total TOP.

It doesn't. If pounding the rock mean you hold the ball for 3 minutes and 3 seconds, while putting it on Dak and they hold it for 3 minutes and 7 seconds HOW THE HELL WOULD IT HELP OVERALL TOP?
 

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Correct and doing so on the ground chews up even more clock.

I understand we have to abort the running game at times but it’s not a winning formula for us against these better teams because it’s leaves our defense more vulnerable.

I would start giving Pollard more opportunities. I really believe his running style will help the running game.
 

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Yes, yes likely.

Please shut the hell up and stop repeating the same stuff over and over.

You can't control the overall TOP with only the offense, a Kindergartener knows this. If your offense has elite TOP then they've done all they can regarding TOP. There is no getting better than elite. The fact you can't understand this is just absolutely damning to your reputation.
But you lend support to your defense on TOP with dominating on the ground with offense. Not sure why your denying this unless it’s because it doesn’t fit into your analysis?
 

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I would start giving Pollard more opportunities. I really believe his running style will help the running game.
I’m open to anything. I thought we were going to use him more. And I don’t recall Dak with any rushing attempts or scrambles Sunday. He’s very effective with his legs.

We can’t just abort our running game. It plays right into these defenses schemes.
 

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But you lend support to your defense on TOP with dominating on the ground with offense. Not sure why your denying this unless it’s because it doesn’t fit into your analysis?

How does it lend support to your defense if your offense is on the field for less time? Do not reply without answering this.

Denying it? I just gave you proof that it's a complete lie on your part.

Please provide ANY facts or statistics, that say "pounding the rock" keeps the defense off the field for longer.
 

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How does it lend support to your defense if your offense is on the field for less time? Do not reply without answering this.

Denying it? I just gave you proof that it's a complete lie on your part.

Please provide ANY facts or statistics, that say "pounding the rock" keeps the defense off the field for longer.
If we drive the ball down the field on a scoring drive for 8 minutes for example instead of 3 minutes it naturally keeps our defense off the field longer.

And if we get off to faster starts with the lead our opponents must turn to the air which again gives them less TOP.

I’m not sure how to better answer your question.
 
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