This defense is horrible

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Brady hasn't had a great season, but next week could be a different story. Or it may be so easy to run for them, Brady don't pass much. The Patriots win with defense, but their defense won't have to play very well to win this one.
I'm not looking forward to next week at all. I wish we could fast forward to the Bill's on thanksgiving
 

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The defensive stats are misleading. The defense seems to allow a TD on every single red zone trip. I can't remember the last time they held a team to 3 points. The offense will need to score at least 35 to win every game from here on out.
 

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This goes all the way back to traffic cone Spears. People simply cannot seem to comprehend the role of DT's, and how them being disruptive makes your D go.
I Tom Brady will likely have a clean pocket to step up in and avoid the defensive ends:rolleyes:
I'm shocked people claim the defensive tackles have played well.some refuse to see what is right in front of their face.hopefully the cowboys finally change their philosophy
Regarding defensive tackles After this season
 

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Please just remember as you cry about the defense and the running game is trash... Don't be the guy who was happy we took Zeke over Ramsey.

Don't. Be. That. Guy.
 

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Our run defence is horrid. We can't stop a nosebleed on the ground. Thanks Marinelli for not getting us a proper DT.

It’s also his scheme....we have some pretty decent DTs in the middle but they are still making JAG rbs look like pro bowlers...
 

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Please just remember as you cry about the defense and the running game is trash... Don't be the guy who was happy we took Zeke over Ramsey.

Don't. Be. That. Guy.

Ramsey isn’t stopping the run....
It was def the right call but perhaps we should’ve followed the Jags model and traded him instead of paying him...
 

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Ramsey isn’t stopping the run....
It was def the right call but perhaps we should’ve followed the Jags model and traded him instead of paying him...
It was obviously not the right call. The Jags got a kings random for Ramsey. What would we get if we tried to trade Zeke?

Also Ramsey would eliminate the other team's best wr and shrink the field. Yes, that'd help the run defense.
 

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It was obviously not the right call. The Jags got a kings random for Ramsey. What would we get if we tried to trade Zeke?

Also Ramsey would eliminate the other team's best wr and shrink the field. Yes, that'd help the run defense.

Zeke directly = more wins first few years...now he’s not helping all that much.
Ramsey May or may not help the jags at all if they don’t get playmakers with the picks.
And they didn’t win anything while he was there...was.
Ramsey didn’t shut down any side of the field at all that’s silly, that’s Deion Sanders and old school PI rules...not as big a thing now. You could bring Deion back right now and it wouldn’t be the same effect. He was good at locking down one guy and creating a TO here or there but teams weren’t gameplanning for him.
 

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In years past the defense did not stunt as often as they do now. They stunt darn near every down. It is idiotic. More harm happens than good. It especially opens the outside to allow qb's to roll outside. I constantly watch in disbelief at how often Lawrence or Quinn stunts inside taking himself completely out of the play.

I want Marinelli gone way worse than I do Garrett. I want Garrett gone badly. I have been against Marinelli for several years now.
 

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Zeke directly = more wins first few years...now he’s not helping all that much.

This is nonsense.

Ramsey May or may not help the jags at all if they don’t get playmakers with the picks.
And they didn’t win anything while he was there...was.
Ramsey didn’t shut down any side of the field at all that’s silly, that’s Deion Sanders and old school PI rules...not as big a thing now. You could bring Deion back right now and it wouldn’t be the same effect. He was good at locking down one guy and creating a TO here or there but teams weren’t gameplanning for him.

I get it. It's the Jags. So you haven't seen him play clearly. The Jags had him shadow the opposing team's number 1 and since the start of 2017 when he was the closest defender he'd allowed a passer rating of 56.2. In that same time frame he's first in yards allowed per target. He is a stud. He's been a better NFL player than Zeke has and will be a better player for longer than Zeke can hope to be.

But your question was would he help the run defense and the answer is yes.
 

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The Defense is definitely atrocious however the preparation is as awful as well. I mean is it in any way explainable to let the opponent do at will whatever they have done all season?

The Vikings played lots of screens all season and they did it against us very efficiently. Couldn't our coaches see that beforehand? Driskel has always been a mobile QB and was clear as day that he would use his legs against us. Was it too hard to have somebody spy on him? Last night we clearly saw that Brady plays poor under pressure. Will they ever blitz him? They use the quick RBs on screens and slants a lot, will they gameplan on it?

Is there a single fan in here that is sure they will gameplan against NE's strength?
 

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The Defense is definitely atrocious however the preparation is as awful as well. I mean is it in any way explainable to let the opponent do at will whatever they have done all season?

The Vikings played lots of screens all season and they did it against us very efficiently. Couldn't our coaches see that beforehand? Driskel has always been a mobile QB and was clear as day that he would use his legs against us. Was it too hard to have somebody spy on him? Last night we clearly saw that Brady plays poor under pressure. Will they ever blitz him? They use the quick RBs on screens and slants a lot, will they gameplan on it?
Un like us Bill and Brady will take advantage of our weak def play. They will be running that screen until we stop it if we can. They will use they RB with power to run all over us. We will be scared to blitz Brady and will give him all day to throw nd he will pick us apart. LOL The whole freaking defensive coaching staff needs to be fired! They can take Quinn with them.
Is there a single fan in here that is sure they will gameplan against NE's strength?
 

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The Patriots will just keep running the ball. Why wouldn't they when they can get four or five yards each time.
 

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As individuals they are good players as a team something is wrong here.
It is like a team just assembled before the game.
They have no identity.
 

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The biggest issue with the defense today was tackling . It was very poor.

And how did we just forget how to cover a kickoff????

Seems like tackling has been an issue for at last these past two weeks.
 

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During the game at the end, I told those I was watching with that Dallas should just allow the other team to score a TD to possibly tie it in one play so that the offense would have enough time on the clock to win the game. That's how little confidence I have in the D.

The Pats are going to eat these guys alive with their dink and dunk game. Dallas just gives those plays up every time.

And yeah, the tacking is atrocious.
 

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Im sorry but our defense is really bad. Forget about the names we have on defense, they can’t stop the run or the pass. We cannot win a sb with this kind of play on defense.

Next week We face a 60 year old qb with zero mobility. I’m sorry Brady has had an awful year. But they’ll our coach our sorry defense and Dak is going to have to bail us out again.
TRUTH! We make ANY scrub *** RB and backup QB look like the golden child of the NFL week in and out... unbelievable. All I got to watch was high lights as game wasn't televised in Houston...but even watching those it was apparent this defense is bad, and every game found "lacking". Philly got beat yesterday by the Pats, but and I know I'm going to catch hell here for my next statement, but Dak is twice the QB ole wrinkle wentz is. We may catch lightening in a bottle IF our great o-line wakes the hell up, and we don't try to pound Zeke, we ALL know Bill will not let him beat them, Let's see if Moore is all that, cause THIS game can make or break his butt as an OC...
 
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