Is Dak better than Romo?

Hawkeye0202

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Some people have a knack for getting others to follow them into battle, to perform well, often even above expectations.

It was really sad for Romo. At one point, he got smashed to the ground, and his OL's simply walked away. He made a mistake early in taking a side, way back when TO was mouth fighting w/ the team. A team leader cannot take a side, it's his job to make it work, not join a clique.

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I thought I've heard the criticism and gripes pointed more on how Romo performed in the playoff appearances rather than Super bowl appearances, how did Romo himself perform when it was
clutch crunch time and all the stakes were on the line. How did he play and perform himself in those playoff situations,?

Keep in mind, that we've seen even hall of famers like Dan Fouts, Dan Marino and Warren Moon that didn't get Super Bowl rings which two of the aforementioned didn't even
get to a SB appearance, but yet remembered and celebrated as among the very best QB's that have ever played the game.

IMO I still think Romo will get into the NFL Hall of Fame, because he was an exciting player that happened to have played his career for the Dallas Cowboys, America’s team: the most popular team in sports history period.
.. If he played for the NY Jets, instead, I think it would be a totally different story, and not even thought about as a HOF.
If Romo gets into the hall of fame as a player. It will basically make the whole thing a sham. Romo should never make the hall of fame
 

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Can you elaborate and explain what you mean by "natural " leader ? ... what is it that Dak supposedly has, .. that Romo did not have as a natural leader ?

Romo at times was considered standoffish which I think was more his personality. He never had the interpersonal skills that navigated players. I remember when Kitna had to play a few games for Romo and there were feelings players played harder coz he hung with them playing cards and stuff. I don't think anyone questioned his leadership on the field as much as off the field. There's the leadership difference between him and Dak.
 

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If Romo was QB of this team:
- They would be 8-2 right now with them beating Minnesota by Romo checking out of the run plays and beating NO and NYJ with better play but inexplicably losing to Washington or NY with a 4 int game from Tony.
- They would end up the 2 seed and lose 45-42 in the first round with Romo taking all of the blame because he makes a poor throw in the 4th quarter trying to make up for that 45-28 deficit

With Dak, they may or may not make the playoffs and if they do, they will lose 45-28 to someone and the defense will be blamed.

Seriously though, they are both good but not great QB's. Even yesterday a lot of Dak's throws are just . . . off. He makes up for it by making smart throws. At the end of the day though, it takes a team (and a coaching staff) to be truly successful and that's something neither Dak nor Tony have.
 

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Romo had a great release and a average arm. Romo had the best "eyes in the back of his head" I've ever seen as far as knowing when to duck/move/spin.

Neither has a rocket arm. Daks seems to be a little stronger but he still can't make all the throws . Very few can. Dak is better on the run, Dak knows his limitations, took Romo 6 years to learn his.

I'd put Romo in 5th position as far as all time Cowboy QBs.(IMO). Dak has the potential to make the top 3.

Dez made Romo in 2014 with his leaping catches. Linehan saved Romo in 2014 with his horizontal attack. Without 2014 Romo isn't even in the convo.
 

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Some people have a knack for getting others to follow them into battle, to perform well, often even above expectations.

It was really sad for Romo. At one point, he got smashed to the ground, and his OL's simply walked away. He made a mistake early in taking a side, way back when TO was mouth fighting w/ the team. A team leader cannot take a side, it's his job to make it work, not join a clique.
If you look at the theory of leadership, they both can be looked at as leaders. Dak definitely falls under the "Great Man" theory. Romo was more of a skills based leader but that took time for him to develop. By the time he developed that leadership style, he'd already had a worn down body.
 

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Hes well on his way. There are several things Dak does better than Romo already.

If you'd have asked this least season I would have laughed at you.

Not so much anymore.
 

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Another bar room brawl about Romo vs Dak.

This is silly. Can't we cheer for both???

Guess not.



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Keep in mind, that we've seen even hall of famers like Dan Fouts, Dan Marino and Warren Moon that didn't get Super Bowl rings which two of the aforementioned didn't even
get to a SB appearance, but yet remembered and celebrated as among the very best QB's that have ever played the game.
In my opinion, I do not think some people try to think like someone sitting on the Pro Football Hall of Fame Board of Selectors. Individuals evaluate players, 'know' what should get players inducted but do not consider how selectors view the same players.

I am not a mind reader and get things wrong but I do pay attention to mindsets. Case in point. Terrell Owens was a bonafide first-ballot Hall of Famer. I stated for years on this site Owens would not get elected in his first-year of eligibility and likely not in his second-year also. It is notable that my opinion was strongly opposed. Actual events did play out as I expected because the Selectors are people like anyone else, who believe they have a 'sacred duty' to enshrine the best individuals who played, coached or contributed to the game. And selectors make the induction process difficult if they consider a player is a total idiot (e.g. Owens).

I say all this in an effort to get readers to think like selectors for once. The following is an exercise. Every inducted player is given a short career bio. The thread discussion has introduced the names of Romo, Fouts, Marino and Moon. Here are the PFHOF bios for the latter three:

(Oregon)...6'3'', 204...Daniel Francis Fouts ... Third-round draft pick, 1973 ... Played major role in transforming Chargers from also-ran to three-time AFC West champions ... Third player ever to pass for more than 40,000 yards ... Career stats: 43,040 yards, 254 touchdowns passing; 476 yards, 13 TDs rushing ... Six-time Pro Bowler, three-time All-Pro ... NFL Most Valuable Player, 1982 ... AFC Player of Year, 1979, 1982 ... Born June 10, 1951, in San Francisco, California.

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/dan-fouts/

(Pittsburgh)...6'4'', 218...Daniel Constantine Marino, Jr ... Miami's first round pick, 1983 ... Most prolific passer in NFL history – career statistics include 4,967 completions, 8,358 attempts for 61,361 yards, and 420 touchdowns ... First player ever to pass for 5,000 yards in a season, threw then-record 48 TDs, 1984 ... Recorded thirteen 3,000-yard seasons ... First or second team All-Pro eight times ... All-AFC six times ... Selected to nine Pro Bowls ... Born September 15, 1961 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/dan-marino/

(Washington)...6'3'', 212... Harold Warren Moon . . .Began pro career with CFL’s Edmonton Eskimos, winning five straight Grey Cups. . . Signed with NFL’s Houston Oilers, 1984... Completed 3,988 of 6,823 passes for 49,325 yards, 291 touchdowns, 233 interceptions in 17-season NFL career. . .Nine 3,000-yard passing seasons was third in league history. . .Named to nine Pro Bowls. . .Had four 4,000-yard passing seasons. All-Pro, 1990…First or second team All-AFC 1988, 1989, 1990…Born November 18, 1956 in Los Angeles, California.

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/warren-moon/

Please keep in mind these biographies were written in the context of the particular NFL era for each player.

Here is a voluntary exercise. Try-and-think like a Selector and write a short PFHOF bio for Antonio Ramiro Romo. Do it for his era knowing all the selectors will not compare it with the bios for the other three quarterbacks for that reason.

In conclusion, I will repeat what I have stated in the past. I believe Romo has a shot at the PFHOF but as a contributer and not as a player. Plus, it will take a great deal of effort and ingenuity on his part to accomplish the feat but I know he is capable.
 

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The real conversation we should be having is was Danny White better than Romo. My vote is yes.
 

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Romo's intelligence in the booth didn't seem to be there when he played. .

Yeah, you know how it goes.........we are all smarter as we get older.............were you smoking anything when you wrote this or were you making a joke?
 

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Daks doing well in the right scheme. The scheme allows him time and wide open receivers or the scheme fails and he goes with it. Need more control from his part when the play as called doesn't sit well against the defense.

He still has way too many unforced errors. I don't believe for a second he can consistently fit passes in tight spaces as I can count on two hands the amount of pick sixes that went right through defenders hands this year.

Pay him top 5 on a short term contract (3-4 years tops) but just because we beat up on bad teams and lose to good teams is no reason to get excited given those concerns above.
 

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Each new generation favors the passer more and more, so we have seen more and more records broken. There is no way this can even be up to debate already. If they called roughing the passer penalties like they are now at the start of Romo's era he would of put up insane numbers, also, his durability which was in question may of had more longevity as well.
 
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