This is a game where Dak is going to have to run for 70+

QuincyCarterEra · Nov 21, 2019

kskboys said:
Not that hard for a 50 year old who ran a 4.4 in his day to run faster than a 4.8 w/ a bit of training. Who cares, the QB position is not built on running the ball, and those that do so flame out in the playoffs(if they even make it) and have short careers. (See Cam Newton)

FWIW, Darrell Green ran a 4.4 around the age of 50. Don't remember his exact age or time, but it was something like that, and big news at the time.

But yet it's hard for 55% of 21-24 year old atheletes to run faster than a 4.8 with months of training.
You've really missed the point on this.

Your FWIW wasn't worth much, Darrell Green has nothing to do with the conversation.

If you think most average Joe's on a football forum can decide one day to train for a couple months and then run faster than 55% of NFL QBs then..... I got some bad news for you.

aikemirv · Nov 21, 2019

Future said:
Average if you're comparing them to WRs/CBs/RBs...which is...dumb.

Do you actually watch Dak play? Of course he's a good athlete, he's just not a combine star. He's just like Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, and Andrew Luck. You can't play as fast as they do, and be as escapable, and not be a great athlete.

No way your old *** is running a sub 5.0 anyway.

How about compare him to Safeties or Linebackers - he still comes up short.

For NFL standards, he is not an athletic, beat you were his feet QB. He is the average QB athletic wise. There is nothing special at all about his running ability other than his size and strength.

He is nothing like Romo, quick feet, quick spins and contort out of any position.

Dak is not escapable with his feet. He's strong! Big difference

For the OP to say, "attack him like the Ravens did" is mind-numbingly stupid. Lamar Jackson is the most athletically gifted player in the NFL today.

stilltheguru · Nov 21, 2019

I agree but Dak seems content with trying to appease people with his pocket play. Guys like russell Wilson just want to win.

aikemirv · Nov 21, 2019

Future said:
Average if you're comparing them to WRs/CBs/RBs...which is...dumb.

Do you actually watch Dak play? Of course he's a good athlete, he's just not a combine star. He's just like Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, and Andrew Luck. You can't play as fast as they do, and be as escapable, and not be a great athlete.

No way your old *** is running a sub 5.0 anyway.

QuincyCarterEra said:
But yet it's hard for 55% of 21-24 year old atheletes to run faster than a 4.8 with months of training.
You've really missed the point on this.

Your FWIW wasn't worth much, Darrell Green has nothing to do with the conversation.

If you think most average Joe's on a football forum can decide one day to train for a couple months and then run faster than 55% of NFL QBs then..... I got some bad news for you.

Where do you live, come to Virginia and bring some money!

Scotman · Nov 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
How about compare him to Safeties or Linebackers - he still comes up short.

For NFL standards, he is not an athletic, beat you were his feet QB. He is the average QB athletic wise. There is nothing special at all about his running ability other than his size and strength.

He is nothing like Romo, quick feet, quick spins and contort out of any position.

Dak is not escapable with his feet. He's strong! Big difference

For the OP to say, "attack him like the Ravens did" is mind-numbingly stupid. Lamar Jackson is the most athletically gifted player in the NFL today.

So..he has average NFL QB speed but is bigger and stronger than average? To me, size and strength are huge variables in the running ability equation.

NorTex · Nov 21, 2019

Scotman said:
So..he has average NFL QB speed but is bigger and stronger than average? To me, size and strength are huge variables in the running ability equation.

Exactly! Lest we forget, Romo's career ended on an ill advised scramble and simple tackle.

Future · Nov 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
For NFL standards, he is not an athletic, beat you were his feet QB. He is the average QB athletic wise. There is nothing special at all about his running ability other than his size and strength.

Nothing special about his ability except for the things that make him special.

TruBluSince1982 · Nov 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
They have about the same speed and vertical. Rodgers has a bit quicker feet than Dak. Dak is much more physical and stronger.

I not saying he does a bad job, but he is not making anybody miss or outrunning anybody. You can't gameplan Dak getting yards on athletic ability, he would have to gain them by the defense not maintaining their assignments. That is not going to happen against the Pat that I can see.

Like I said, a good playcall at the right time might get you 1 big run, but it is not because he is athletic.

Well I'm not really talking designed runs like the OP, (Belly is ready for that no doubt) I'm saying if there is a lane take it. It can force him to adjust opening up something else for you.

They play different fronts, some of those fronts can be advantageous in situations.

"He’s got great poise in the pocket. Stands in there. He can extend plays and run if he has to, but he doesn’t do much of that unless he really needs to." Belichick

PJTHEDOORS · Nov 21, 2019

J12B said:
Dallas offense has to attack them just like the Ravens attacked them.

A lot of RPO and having Dak keep it a few times to keep the defense honest.

I don't see any reason why Dallas can't win this game.

We have better wr's, use them all...go deep.

PJTHEDOORS · Nov 21, 2019

TexasHillbilly said:
Don't get me wrong but I can see several reasons why the Cowboys might not win. The main one is the Pats are just that good and are a tough team to beat especially at home.

Can we win....sure. We better be hitting on all cylinders. jmho

Coaching & Brady's experience are that good...rest of team, i'll take Dallas if our OL is healthy enough, If Dak gets protection, we win. Our D needs to wake up and get to their potential.

GMO415 · Nov 21, 2019

Can't remember the last $90 million RB Who couldn't even break 70 yards.....the guy has regressed.

HungryLion · Nov 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
He is not. You are nuts. I am 52 years old and if you gave me a month of training, I could take Dak in the 40.

He has no moves, not dynamic at all!

smitty313 · Nov 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
I not saying he does a bad job, but he is not making anybody miss or outrunning anybody. You can't gameplan Dak getting yards on athletic ability,

Neither is Zeke right now so wth not

kskboys · Nov 21, 2019

QuincyCarterEra said:
But yet it's hard for 55% of 21-24 year old atheletes to run faster than a 4.8 with months of training.
You've really missed the point on this.

Your FWIW wasn't worth much, Darrell Green has nothing to do with the conversation.

If you think most average Joe's on a football forum can decide one day to train for a couple months and then run faster than 55% of NFL QBs then..... I got some bad news for you.

It's you that's missed the point.

If a person runs a 4.4 to begin w/, after a couple months of training he can prolly run in the 4.6 range at the age of 50. Most QB's are slower than that.

Yes, he does. He's an example that a 50 year old who was fast to begin w/ can still run a sub 4.8.

T-RO · Nov 21, 2019

World's Fastest 100 meters:
9.58

World's Fastest 100 meters for a 50 year old
10.88

LOL. NOBODY is running a 4.4...or a 4.6 40 at age 50. Darrell Green was having a playful moment claiming what he did.

Records by age:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_masters_athletics#100_metres

T-RO · Nov 21, 2019

Lamar Jackson is an elite runner in the NFL no matter the position. Better than most running backs, I suspect. Dak isn't going to imitate that.

Captain43Crash · Nov 21, 2019

NorTex said:
4-5 Carries for 30 yards would be satisfactory as far as I'm concerned.

All on 3rd down for 1st downs. We need to have long drives and convert 3rd downs.

Seven · Nov 21, 2019

aikemirv said:
He is not. You are nuts. I am 52 years old and if you gave me a month of training, I could take Dak in the 40.

He has no moves, not dynamic at all!

After a month of training you MIGHT be able to see your feet......

Roadtrip635 · Nov 21, 2019

T-RO said:
World's Fastest 100 meters:
9.58

World's Fastest 100 meters for a 50 year old
10.88

LOL. NOBODY is running a 4.4...or a 4.6 40 at age 50. Darrell Green was having a playful moment claiming what he did.

Records by age:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_masters_athletics#100_metres

Ex-Bears WR Willie Gault ran a 4.4 40 at age 50, he also has the the records at 100m and 200m at ages 45, 50, and 55

gmoney112 · Nov 21, 2019

Looks like we got ourselves a CZ Al Bundy.

Yeah, Dak will need to keep his eyes open for running lanes.

More importantly, we need to stop being predictable with the run when he's under center. On that note, use a lot of play-action. They're going to play the run basically every time he's under center, because that's what we've been doing.

If there was a time to cash in on your previous predictability, and make a statement, this is the game.

This is a game where Dak is going to have to run for 70+

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