The last time Dak won a road game vs a team with a winning record was 10/16/16

Runwildboys · Nov 23, 2019

JohnnyHopkins said:
How did the rest of the team do?

They sucked.

SlammedZero · Nov 23, 2019

mattjames2010 · Nov 23, 2019

slick325 said:
I appreciate the post and didn't realize the team record on the road against winning teams since 2016.

To reiterate, I think the only people that should have a Win/Loss record are the owner, GM and Head Coach. This made up thing about compiling a QBs won/loss record is disingenuous. Teams win and lose games. The Cowboys need to be better against winning teams period. At home and on the road.

...he didn't just provide w/l record, but Dak's performance in those games. Not good.

mattjames2010 · Nov 23, 2019

Proximo said:
Yea, this thread is a fail.
Anytime I’ve ever seen those “record against winning team” stats it’s always the teams’ end Of year record.

Why the hell would this not matter? It would be one thing if Dallas beating teams is always what determines them from being a winning/losing record team, but that's just not the case.

HungryLion · Nov 23, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
...he didn't just provide w/l record, but Dak's performance in those games. Not good.

the only performance indicator he posted was TD/Int ratio. An important stat to be sure, but certainly not the only indicators of performance.

even then he still got at least one that’s been proven wrong.

Not to mention that he frames his argument about it being Dak’s record and has zero information presented about how the rest of the team performed in those games.

Roadtrip635 · Nov 23, 2019

This thread...........

mattjames2010 · Nov 23, 2019

DakPresgoat said:
the only performance indicator he posted was TD/Int ratio. An important stat to be sure, but certainly not the only indicators of performance.

even then he still got at least one that’s been proven wrong.

Not to mention that he frames his argument about it being Dak’s record and has zero information presented about how the rest of the team performed in those games.

...yeah, a QB that is known to not turn the ball over, tends to turn the ball over in road games against good teams. So, the person I responded to did not just post w/l record, he posted how Dak performed int he game. That's the point.

I won't respond again because you tend to like to go in circles and play stupid.

Supercowboy1986 · Nov 23, 2019

DP's gravitational constant is trash compared to the league average

Risen Star said:
G/S/M

What a fraud.

Ranched · Nov 23, 2019

CowboysFanSince88 said:
vs the Packers at Lambeau. He threw for 247 yds and 3 TD passes. Since then he lost the next 6 games versus a team on the road with a winning record.

I'm afraid that's incorrect. Dak was 22-32, 319 YDS, 2 TD vs the Steelers on the road.

Zeke scored 2 td's late in the 4th. Steelers were 11-5 clinching their division. Again, it takes a team to win, not an individual player alone.

Lutonio · Nov 23, 2019

Does it count it he beat a team that finished with a winning record that season?

Eanwen · Nov 23, 2019

daboyzruleperiod said:
I'm afraid that's incorrect. Dak was 22-32, 319 YDS, 2 TD vs the Steelers on the road.

Zeke scored 2 td's late in the 4th. Steelers were 11-5 clinching their division. Again, it takes a team to win, not an individual player alone.

You have to only count the games that were lost, duh.

morat1959 · Nov 23, 2019

CowboysFanSince88 said:
vs the Packers at Lambeau. He threw for 247 yds and 3 TD passes. Since then he lost the next 6 games versus a team on the road with a winning record.

loss vs 8-4 Giants-12/16/16...1 TD 2 Int's
loss vs 1-0 Broncos-9/17/17- 2 TD's 2 Ints
loss vs 3-2 skins-10/21/18- 1 TD 0 Int
loss vs 7-6 Colts-12/16/18-0 TD 1 Int
loss vs 14-3 Rams-12/19/19-0 TD's 1 Int
loss vs 2-1 Saints-9/29/19-0 TD's 1 int

So it looks like the key to winning is no Int's by dak and to get out to a early lead because in all those losses we trailed in the 1st half. So we are going to need TD's not FG's to beat NE which means we will have to go for it on 4th down at some point during the game.

This is not possible. Look at all his stats.

DFWJC · Nov 23, 2019

CowboysFanSince88 said:
vs the Packers at Lambeau. He threw for 247 yds and 3 TD passes. Since then he lost the next 6 games versus a team on the road with a winning record.

loss vs 8-4 Giants-12/16/16...1 TD 2 Int's
loss vs 1-0 Broncos-9/17/17- 2 TD's 2 Ints
loss vs 3-2 skins-10/21/18- 1 TD 0 Int
loss vs 7-6 Colts-12/16/18-0 TD 1 Int
loss vs 14-3 Rams-12/19/19-0 TD's 1 Int
loss vs 2-1 Saints-9/29/19-0 TD's 1 int

So it looks like the key to winning is no Int's by dak and to get out to a early lead because in all those losses we trailed in the 1st half. So we are going to need TD's not FG's to beat NE which means we will have to go for it on 4th down at some point during the game.

The vast majority of QBs (and teams) ...great ones included...have losing records to winning teams on the road.
But yeah, 1-6 team record not so good.

CowboysFanSince88 · Nov 23, 2019

Lutonio said:
Does it count it he beat a team that finished with a winning record that season?

no the team had to have a winning record at the start of the game. not what record they finished with

HungryLion · Nov 23, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
...yeah, a QB that is known to not turn the ball over, tends to turn the ball over in road games against good teams. So, the person I responded to did not just post w/l record, he posted how Dak performed int he game. That's the point.

I won't respond again because you tend to like to go in circles and play stupid.

Please don’t respond again. Since you tend to ignore the actual point being made and cherry pick small tidbits to twist them to your weak argument.

Again TD/Int ratio is only one performance indicator. So only posting one stat, is nowhere close to a good way to determine a players performance in a game without any other context.

But don’t worry. I won’t bother again because you’re widely known to be a total clown who cherry picks and ignores actual facts when they don’t support your weak narratives.

I will take solace in the fact that you’ve been dead wrong about Dak for years now.

HungryLion · Nov 23, 2019

CowboysFanSince88 said:
vs the Packers at Lambeau. He threw for 247 yds and 3 TD passes. Since then he lost the next 6 games versus a team on the road with a winning record.

loss vs 8-4 Giants-12/16/16...1 TD 2 Int's
loss vs 1-0 Broncos-9/17/17- 2 TD's 2 Ints
loss vs 3-2 skins-10/21/18- 1 TD 0 Int
loss vs 7-6 Colts-12/16/18-0 TD 1 Int
loss vs 14-3 Rams-12/19/19-0 TD's 1 Int
loss vs 2-1 Saints-9/29/19-0 TD's 1 int

So it looks like the key to winning is no Int's by dak and to get out to a early lead because in all those losses we trailed in the 1st half. So we are going to need TD's not FG's to beat NE which means we will have to go for it on 4th down at some point during the game.

Example of why this list is deeply flawed.

The Rams stats are wrong. Dak had 1 passing TD, no Ints. Dak also had a rushing TD in that game.

But even more important to consider:

Dak Prescott performed better against that Rams defense on the road in Los Angeles, than Drew Brees played the following week against the Rams AT HOME in New Orleans.

Dak also played better against the Rams defense than Tom Brady did in the Super Bowl, at a neutral site.

all those things don’t mean Dak is better than Brady and Brees.

What it does indicate is that you also have to factor in how other QB’s around the league fare against the same defense under similar circumstances.

It usually takes an entire team effort to win against good teams on the road. It’s not just about QB performance.

That’s not to say Dak has been perfect either. But you have to factor in far more than just W/L and TD/Int ratio if you want to adequately assess a players performance in those situations.

CowboysExchange · Nov 23, 2019

CowboysFanSince88 said:
vs the Packers at Lambeau. He threw for 247 yds and 3 TD passes. Since then he lost the next 6 games versus a team on the road with a winning record.

Thats Probably the last time our tes scored against a winning team. Lol. I guarantee ya Belicheck will snuff out this 2 te passing offense and #82 will go 9 straight games without a td. How long is that streak gonna continue without substituting better slot wrs and rbs?

loss vs 8-4 Giants-12/16/16...1 TD 2 Int's
loss vs 1-0 Broncos-9/17/17- 2 TD's 2 Ints
loss vs 3-2 skins-10/21/18- 1 TD 0 Int
loss vs 7-6 Colts-12/16/18-0 TD 1 Int
loss vs 14-3 Rams-12/19/19-0 TD's 1 Int
loss vs 2-1 Saints-9/29/19-0 TD's 1 int

So it looks like the key to winning is no Int's by dak and to get out to a early lead because in all those losses we trailed in the 1st half. So we are going to need TD's not FG's to beat NE which means we will have to go for it on 4th down at some point during the game.

Floatyworm · Nov 23, 2019

CowboysFanSince88 said:
vs the Packers at Lambeau. He threw for 247 yds and 3 TD passes. Since then he lost the next 6 games versus a team on the road with a winning record.

loss vs 8-4 Giants-12/16/16...1 TD 2 Int's
loss vs 1-0 Broncos-9/17/17- 2 TD's 2 Ints
loss vs 3-2 skins-10/21/18- 1 TD 0 Int
loss vs 7-6 Colts-12/16/18-0 TD 1 Int
loss vs 14-3 Rams-12/19/19-0 TD's 1 Int
loss vs 2-1 Saints-9/29/19-0 TD's 1 int

So it looks like the key to winning is no Int's by dak and to get out to a early lead because in all those losses we trailed in the 1st half. So we are going to need TD's not FG's to beat NE which means we will have to go for it on 4th down at some point during the game.

The ghost of Scott Linehan..... :omg:

May Kellen Moore cast out those demons tomorrow.....

CowboysFanSince88 · Nov 23, 2019

DakPresgoat said:
Example of why this list is deeply flawed.

The Rams stats are wrong. Dak had 1 passing TD, no Ints. Dak also had a rushing TD in that game.

But even more important to consider:

Dak Prescott performed better against that Rams defense on the road in Los Angeles, than Drew Brees played the following week against the Rams AT HOME in New Orleans.

Dak also played better against the Rams defense than Tom Brady did in the Super Bowl, at a neutral site.

all those things don’t mean Dak is better than Brady and Brees.

What it does indicate is that you also have to factor in how other QB’s around the league fare against the same defense under similar circumstances.

It usually takes an entire team effort to win against good teams on the road. It’s not just about QB performance.

That’s not to say Dak has been perfect either. But you have to factor in far more than just W/L and TD/Int ratio if you want to adequately assess a players performance in those situations.

We just need Dak not to give the game away due to turnovers. If he can do that we have a shot

Fire407 · Nov 23, 2019

Never mind past road games, we haven't beaten a team with a winning record home or away this season. We need to win tomorrow just to show that we can.

The last time Dak won a road game vs a team with a winning record was 10/16/16

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