Coaching Change Isn’t the Only Problem

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This team is a sham. The players aren’t nearly as good as we miscalculated based on last season. I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.

Coaching is an issue, but our secondary, LBs, DL, OL, TE are all over-rated and under performed based on our expectations.

Penalties, beaten regularly, and absolutely not dominant in short yardage—OL.

Not reliable outlet for the QB, can’t stretch and challenge LBs and S’s—TE.

Missed tackles, poor coverage, no turnovers, crucial lapses on 3rd and long—secondary.

Missed tackles, surprisingly far below expected growth from last year, a weak group that on paper was expected to be the strength of the defense—LBs.

DT—Woods and Collins should rotate at 1 Tech and look for upgrade. We literally have no true 3 Tech to make this scheme work. Quinn is our star rushman, and while DLaw didn’t put up the sack #’s, he’s still among the best LDEs in the game. Not his fault we paid him like a top RDE.

It won’t be popular, but the only positions I’m actually sold on at this point are QB, RB, and WR (despite their drops).
 

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Agreed. Plus, I’d argue that the attitudes and way of thinking of our players is just terrible. They’re all content and happy after a loss. They show no emotion. Bennett, the only one from a winning locker room, had to set them straight because of the stupid mindset this team has. What kind of professional sports team is happy after losing in embarrassing fashions week in and week out? They sit on the sidelines looking suicidal with no energy and without a care in the world, and then they light up when the game is over and go ask each the Bills players for their jerseys. Embarrassing. This team also gets mocked, bullied, punked, and embarrassed every week by the opposing team and the players of this team do nothing about it. I’m also convinced all the players care about is money and fame. Winning and championships is but a mere bonus to them. Nothing more.


If a new HC came in, he’d have to change the way of life and outlooks on life of our players here in Dallas. Most new HC’s wouldn’t have to do this, so it is an extra challenge our new HC will face.
 

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No but it is the biggest problem.

There's a bigger one, and unlike the coaches it's not going to change:

jerry-stephen.jpg
 

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Jason will be retired after the season.

Marinelli and KOquin are fired.

KMoore stays as OC.

KRichard is the new DC.

The new HC? who knows.
 

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This team is a sham. The players aren’t nearly as good as we miscalculated based on last season. I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.

Coaching is an issue, but our secondary, LBs, DL, OL, TE are all over-rated and under performed based on our expectations.

Penalties, beaten regularly, and absolutely not dominant in short yardage—OL.

Not reliable outlet for the QB, can’t stretch and challenge LBs and S’s—TE.

Missed tackles, poor coverage, no turnovers, crucial lapses on 3rd and long—secondary.

Missed tackles, surprisingly far below expected growth from last year, a weak group that on paper was expected to be the strength of the defense—LBs.

DT—Woods and Collins should rotate at 1 Tech and look for upgrade. We literally have no true 3 Tech to make this scheme work. Quinn is our star rushman, and while DLaw didn’t put up the sack #’s, he’s still among the best LDEs in the game. Not his fault we paid him like a top RDE.

It won’t be popular, but the only positions I’m actually sold on at this point are QB, RB, and WR (despite their drops).
Everything you listed can be corrected with good coaching.............poor coaching is our #1 problem.
 

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There's a bigger one, and unlike the coaches it's not going to change:

jerry-stephen.jpg


These two clowns actually involve themselves in the coaches meetings and game planning meetings. As if they know Jack squat about what needs to be done on the field.

especially the one on the right.

“we gotta get back to work”


Get back to work? Get back to work? You’re only in your position because the owner is your daddy. You’ve never done anything other than ride daddy’s coattails. Get back to work? Go screw your self. But he is another narcissist who enjoys listening to himself on the radio when he calls into the Fan.
 

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This team is a sham. The players aren’t nearly as good as we miscalculated based on last season. I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.

Coaching is an issue, but our secondary, LBs, DL, OL, TE are all over-rated and under performed based on our expectations.

Penalties, beaten regularly, and absolutely not dominant in short yardage—OL.

Not reliable outlet for the QB, can’t stretch and challenge LBs and S’s—TE.

Missed tackles, poor coverage, no turnovers, crucial lapses on 3rd and long—secondary.

Missed tackles, surprisingly far below expected growth from last year, a weak group that on paper was expected to be the strength of the defense—LBs.

DT—Woods and Collins should rotate at 1 Tech and look for upgrade. We literally have no true 3 Tech to make this scheme work. Quinn is our star rushman, and while DLaw didn’t put up the sack #’s, he’s still among the best LDEs in the game. Not his fault we paid him like a top RDE.

It won’t be popular, but the only positions I’m actually sold on at this point are QB, RB, and WR (despite their drops).

“Coaching isn’t the only problem “

but

coaching is a huge and fixable part of the problem

I also saw that you are one of the few people who want Garrett to be HC next year so we’ll take your comments taking into account your level of intelligence
 

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Cowboys coaching as a whole is middle of the pack. I mean there are some horrible coaches in the league, it could be worse. But when you have pro bowl talent at QB,RB,WR,Oline,Dline,LBs,DB. Its very frustrating to have a 6-6 record going into December. I just worry who the next guy will be. Would Jerry let a college coach come in and let him control everything? No way. That's why I could easily someone like Kris Richard just getting the job so Jerry can still control everything.
 

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I agree with this post 100%.

But also, something happened to this team in recent weeks. Not long ago the Cowboys were the best in the league in 3rd down and long situations on defense. Lately they have been giving up 3rd and long plays pretty regularly. I know a lot of guys like Lewis but is Brown really the better slot corner? Do they miss him? Or could it be LVE? Its hard to say but clearly something has changed. The play that bothers me most from yesterday's game is the 3rd and 10 at the Bills 2. They just made one of what must have been 10 stops behind the line of scrimmage and it looked like the defense was about to make a big play to get the ball back for the offense. Instead, they got no pass rush at all on Allen and allowed a 30 yard completion to Beasley. The Cowboys rushed 5 there and the blitzing LB ran right into traffic instead of finding a gap to rush through. No pressure from Lawrence or Quinn and of course no pressure from the tackles. That play by Buffalo changed the game. It took the wind out of the Cowboys sails and gave Buffalo a big momentum boost. That's been the problem with this defense for a long time. When they need a stop they can't seem to come up with a big play. Oh, and they have 0 take-aways in 5 games. By luck alone you'd think they'd have 1 or 2.

I think we have to face the facts, this team is just not that good. They don't beat winning teams because they aren't good enough to beat good teams. The Cowboys are a second tier team. Not as bad that the bottom tier teams like the Giants, Commanders, Bengals, etc. But they are not as good as teams like the Bills, Vikings, Packers, etc. If this team can't score on the Bills defense then we can't expect them to do much against the Bears or Rams either. Both teams can pressure the QB which seems to be the formula for shutting down the Cowboys offense. Rush Dak and force him to make a quick decision or like yesterday, no decision. Dak looked like last year's Dak yesterday. He held the ball too long and became paralyzed in the pocket.
 

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I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.
It's true, and there are also probably different, team-specific reasons that it's true.

Last year, this team was very conservative on offense for three quarters, then attacked in the 4th. This year, the team is aggressive from the beginning of games, so the dramatic change of styles in the 4th quarter is gone. The result is more blowout wins and more close losses. Last year, 14 of our 18 games were decided by one score or less. This year, 9 of our 12 games have been double-digit wins or close losses.

When the aggressive style is working, we build big leads and eventually win. When it isn't working as well, the game is (usually) close in the 4th, but we no longer have the option of flipping the switch to attack mode since we're already there. And by then, defenses have adjusted to what we've been doing all game long.

Target 15+ yards
(as a percentage of total attempts)
2018
Qtr 1-3 only
12.4%
4th qtr tied or trailing by 8 or less
26.0%

2019
Qtr 1-3 only
20.5%
4th qtr tied or trailing by 8 or less
20.4%

The deeper throws were our ace in the hole in 2018, but this year we've already played that card by the time we're in the 4th quarter.
 

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This team is a sham. The players aren’t nearly as good as we miscalculated based on last season. I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.

Coaching is an issue, but our secondary, LBs, DL, OL, TE are all over-rated and under performed based on our expectations.

Penalties, beaten regularly, and absolutely not dominant in short yardage—OL.

Not reliable outlet for the QB, can’t stretch and challenge LBs and S’s—TE.

Missed tackles, poor coverage, no turnovers, crucial lapses on 3rd and long—secondary.

Missed tackles, surprisingly far below expected growth from last year, a weak group that on paper was expected to be the strength of the defense—LBs.

DT—Woods and Collins should rotate at 1 Tech and look for upgrade. We literally have no true 3 Tech to make this scheme work. Quinn is our star rushman, and while DLaw didn’t put up the sack #’s, he’s still among the best LDEs in the game. Not his fault we paid him like a top RDE.

It won’t be popular, but the only positions I’m actually sold on at this point are QB, RB, and WR (despite their drops).

The people I blame the most are the ones who make so many faulty decisions to start with, namely, the Jones clan of imposters.
 
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This team is a sham. The players aren’t nearly as good as we miscalculated based on last season. I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.

Coaching is an issue, but our secondary, LBs, DL, OL, TE are all over-rated and under performed based on our expectations.

Penalties, beaten regularly, and absolutely not dominant in short yardage—OL.

Not reliable outlet for the QB, can’t stretch and challenge LBs and S’s—TE.

Missed tackles, poor coverage, no turnovers, crucial lapses on 3rd and long—secondary.

Missed tackles, surprisingly far below expected growth from last year, a weak group that on paper was expected to be the strength of the defense—LBs.

DT—Woods and Collins should rotate at 1 Tech and look for upgrade. We literally have no true 3 Tech to make this scheme work. Quinn is our star rushman, and while DLaw didn’t put up the sack #’s, he’s still among the best LDEs in the game. Not his fault we paid him like a top RDE.

It won’t be popular, but the only positions I’m actually sold on at this point are QB, RB, and WR (despite their drops).
This same analysis of talent gaps can be made on every single team that has ever won the superbowl.

But only here do we need to pretend every position needs to be All Pro to win against the Jets and Bills.

Bills are 9-3. Look at the talent holes on that team.
 

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Someone mentioned Aikman as GM. In general, this is heading in the right direction. But I'm not sure Aikman is the right guy.

I think more Tony Romo. He has shown a tremendous understanding of the game at every level; like Aikman, no player could ever question his courage or loyalty to the Cowboys; but unlike Aikman (and more like Staubach), Romo has a competitive edge in everything that seems obsessive. That's what I want.

Now, can he evaluate player talent? I don't know, and many of us here don't know, but it can't be worse than Garrett. A shakeup of this level is the only thing that could save the Cowboys because as ALL of you have commented, Jerry the GM is a problem . . . but Jerry isn't going anywhere. The best option is to minimize his input a la Jimmy J or Bill P.
 

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This team is a sham. The players aren’t nearly as good as we miscalculated based on last season. I remember reading an article, that I mistakenly dismissed, that predicted a down year for the Cowboys based on the number of close 1-score wins we had last year. The author showed that historically, that doesn’t hold up. If you win an inordinate number of close games and come from behind games one year, you generally come back to the mean.

Coaching is an issue, but our secondary, LBs, DL, OL, TE are all over-rated and under performed based on our expectations.

Penalties, beaten regularly, and absolutely not dominant in short yardage—OL.

Not reliable outlet for the QB, can’t stretch and challenge LBs and S’s—TE.

Missed tackles, poor coverage, no turnovers, crucial lapses on 3rd and long—secondary.

Missed tackles, surprisingly far below expected growth from last year, a weak group that on paper was expected to be the strength of the defense—LBs.

DT—Woods and Collins should rotate at 1 Tech and look for upgrade. We literally have no true 3 Tech to make this scheme work. Quinn is our star rushman, and while DLaw didn’t put up the sack #’s, he’s still among the best LDEs in the game. Not his fault we paid him like a top RDE.

It won’t be popular, but the only positions I’m actually sold on at this point are QB, RB, and WR (despite their drops).


Great list.

A few adds

Valuing emotion over common sense. - Witten over Jarwin...

Failure to admit a mistake - Keeping Garrett and Marinelli this long. Not having an alternative to Maher

Pride vs Reality - so Atlanta wanted Garrett and you felt that meant he was the next Landry..... Big Miss on you part.

History doesn't repeat itself all the time.. Landry was extended because he could coach.... Garrett is no Landry.

The old isn't always the best - Marinelli defense, Garrett 90's offense... Richards dream of " legion of boom"... Hey guys look for the football...


My keepers

Moore - he has the offense moving, just need to tighten up the tendency to go away from whats working.. ( ever watch the Saints, they will be behind, but still run )

Sanjay - our receivers need to get over the drops etc but otherwise are improved.
 
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