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In most cases since Jimmy left Jerry’s choices for HC’s have not come from a list of top candidates.

Switzer, Gailey, Campo, Parcells, Phillips and Garrett none of which I recall being highly touted by other teams at the time.

Only one ever returned to HC again.

This past week has only further tainted how toxic an environment Jerry’s ways presents.

I can’t imagine any top prospect coming here unless he can’t land a job elsewhere.

Meyer maybe willing to due it in order to rehabilitate his image. After the domestic violence scandal broke with one of his assistants and he didnt report it, he kinda got caught up in the metoo movement and that lead to his suspension and ultimate resignation.

For a coach that has won championships, I am sure he doesn't want to go out like this. What better way to rehabilitate your image and reputation than to come to the Cowboys and win a ring. I could see that being very tempting to him.

I guess we shall see.
 

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I honestly can’t see either coming here.

I’d look outside the names often thrown up by the media. Probably someone who’s phone isn’t ringing from other teams. That’s been more of the model since Jimmy left.

But I can’t see Myer being a Puppet. Maybe Daniels?

It will need to be someone Jerry’s comfortable with. Someone who understands who’s running the show and be willing to be humiliated.

Up until last night as I was thinking about it I thought the same as you, but Urban Myer might be someone who could reel in Dak and Zeke. We have a real, and I do mean a VERY real problem with Zeke I believe he is purposefully dogging it big time I.E..i out of shape, and not even really trying in many cases. It has to be unprecedented because I believe he is a very elite RB we again saw a glimpse of it a few days ago but ONLY in the 1st series. It's unforgivable for Zeke to have taken that money and perform poorly on purpose and be out of shape at 24 years old without a single major injury. I actually want to get rid of Zeke because of it but Urban might be able to save that situation, as well as be a good head coach. Meaning maybe Jerry will once again, before he passes, give it up again for an elite coach. JM HSO. I think it's likely to happen. I think Jerry might give Urban Meyer total football control other than 100% draft day control. In other words Meyer is likely the closest thing we could get to Jimmy Johnson, and at the same time be able to handle the new young players we have.
 

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Whatever. I don’t need another phildadon on my back while he’s away. You have yet to answer my question. You believe a QB that was playing Microsoft surface games on the sidelines while getting beat down 23-7 is good and caring? You believe a QB that goes up to the podium after every loss with the same speech cares? You believe a QB that says nothing in the locker room or pregame to hype up his teammates cares? This isn’t just targeted at Dak either. I’m talking the whole team. Besides Bennett, who else here cares? I’m not seeing the same thing you are seeing, my friend.
Just curious, how do you know he was playing games. Don’t they use those to review the series. If Dak is playing games then JG isn’t doing his job. There already is no structure and players are on there own. Now some say they are grown men getting well paid and shouldn’t need certain structure that is strict but some don’t realize that they are in there early 20’s and handed a lot of money. I am almost 50 and havent matured totally yet. Lol. Bennett speech will fall on deaf ears and they will start avoiding him because they don’t want to be held accountable.
 

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Up until last night as I was thinking about it I thought the same as you, but Urban Myer might be someone who could reel in Dak and Zeke. We have a real, and I do mean a VERY real problem with Zeke I believe he is purposefully dogging it big time I.E..i out of shape, and not even really trying in many cases. It has to be unprecedented because I believe he is a very elite RB we again saw a glimpse of it a few days ago but ONLY in the 1st series. It's unforgivable for Zeke to have taken that money and perform poorly on purpose and be out of shape at 24 years old without a single major injury. I actually want to get rid of Zeke because of it but Urban might be able to save that situation, as well as be a good head coach. Meaning maybe Jerry will once again, before he passes, give it up again for an elite coach. JM HSO. I think it's likely to happen. I think Jerry might give Urban Meyer total football control other than 100% draft day control. In other words Meyer is likely the closest thing we could get to Jimmy Johnson, and at the same time be able to handle the new young players we have.

Good points bro, I would love Meyer...………...my first choice is Riley but I dont see him leaving Oklahoma.
 

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Yeah, Meyer is going to want some control over player personnel so that might be a deal breaker with Jerry, I dont know. Meyer may be willing to let Jerry take a front seat since he was kinda forced to resign at Ohio State and he probably doesn't want to end his coaching career like that. I might could see that.

I think Daniels is staying in New England waiting for Hoodie to retire, him turning down the Colts job tells me something was promised to him.

Maybe we look at a coordinator somewhere, like the OC for the Ravens or the DC for the niners.

Obviously Riley is my first choice but I just dont see him leaving Oklahoma unless Jerry backs up the Brink's truck for him.:laugh:
Here’s a name I heard thrown out there from a friend closer to the situation.

Dan Campbell, Saints asst HC and TE coach. And was a former Cowboy player when Parcells was here. Someone Jerry is familiar with.

It’s more likely to be a no name Jerry is comfortable with than big name who’d demand more control and be given more credit.
 

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Just curious, how do you know he was playing games. Don’t they use those to review the series. If Dak is playing games then JG isn’t doing his job. There already is no structure and players are on there own. Now some say they are grown men getting well paid and shouldn’t need certain structure that is strict but some don’t realize that they are in there early 20’s and handed a lot of money. I am almost 50 and havent matured totally yet. Lol. Bennett speech will fall on deaf ears and they will start avoiding him because they don’t want to be held accountable.

Early 20s is young enough to realize the difference between being selfish and not being selfish. Any 5 year old would realize that. They just don’t care if they are being selfish or not. Rather that be Zeke with his large contract, D-Law literally holding out at risk of his own health, or Dak changing plays to pad his stats (this one is questionable).

Bennett speech will fall on deaf ears and they will start avoiding him because they don’t want to be held accountable.

Couldn’t agree more. He’s older, therefore wiser than most of our locker room. He’s seen all of this before. Like I said, this team is like a kindergarten class, except the teachers (JJ and JG) are not in control. The kids are (the players). That’s why we are losing and that’s why we suck. Players like Bennett and Sean Lee are the older, more responsible and respectable children of the bunch.
 

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Early 20s is young enough to realize the difference between being selfish and not being selfish. Any 5 year old would realize that. They just don’t care if they are being selfish or not. Rather that be Zeke with his large contract, D-Law literally holding out at risk of his own health, or Dak changing plays to pad his stats (this one is questionable).



Couldn’t agree more. He’s older, therefore wiser than most of our locker room. He’s seen all of this before. Like I said, this team is like a kindergarten class, except the teachers (JJ and JG) are not in control. The kids are (the players). That’s why we are losing and that’s why we suck. Players like Bennett and Sean Lee are the older, more responsible and respectable children of the bunch.
I have been wondering how much Dak is looking to have big numbers so he gets paid more. I know they all want to win but how bad. And they are very well paid and maybe not focusing on the game. They need to get back to basics and focus and hold each other accountable. It sucks and embarrassing to be called out by your team mates but it needs to happen. Jones tipped that ball up and that safety has to make that easy pick. It looked like he intentionally tipped the ball up for him. Maybe the staff has given up, they know JG is gone after this year and JJ may clean house. Even Witten is dropping passes and needs to be held accountable..
 

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I think they all care about winning. If you saw Dak on the bench looking dejected and lost, you couldn't come to the conclusion he doesn't care. He just doesn't seem to know how to turn it around, just as the rest of them, including the coaches don't.

That is just him seeing $$$ going out the window. Hopefully he will be more reasonable in his demands because I do like him as our qb, but not at the cost of losing other quality players.
 

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Meyer maybe willing to due it in order to rehabilitate his image. After the domestic violence scandal broke with one of his assistants and he didnt report it, he kinda got caught up in the metoo movement and that lead to his suspension and ultimate resignation.

For a coach that has won championships, I am sure he doesn't want to go out like this. What better way to rehabilitate your image and reputation than to come to the Cowboys and win a ring. I could see that being very tempting to him.

I guess we shall see.
I don’t see Myer with a damaged image. He won championships at two venues. He has nothing more to prove.

If he wants to return it would more likely be in college ranks with total control.
 

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Ladies and Gentlemen, It is with pleasure to announce The 2019 Fall Guys: Zeke, since Day 1. Connor Williams. Jeff Heath. DLaw. Bennett (coming on strong). Awuize. Cobb (early in the season). Maher (definitely & earned). Byron Jones (quietly fading) And your winner is...…...
 

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This has to be sarcasm, Zekes ran very well on Thanksgiving
He was starting to warm up and had there defense on there heels. We abandoned the run early in the 3rd quarter. We could have moved the ball on the ground and likely got points off a
Elliot run. Kept there offense off the field and climbed right back in the game. But JG and Moore and Dak wanted to go pass happy.
 

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Seems as though the OP is looking for Scapegoats as well. The reality is the team has under-performed. Poor blocking. Missed tackles. Dropped passes. Bad throws. How often do they abandon the run despite it being successful? I blame that on an O.C. who has a QB mentality, for obvious reasons. Horrible special teams play. A secondary that has regressed. There is plenty of blame to go around. Everyone deserve a bite out of the crap sandwich that this season has become.
 

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Just because someone says Dak sucked during that game doesnt mean that they think he sucks overall...qbs have bad games and whether youre a believer in Dak or not, that was a bad game

^^^THIS^^^

It is ok to admit when a player has a bad game. Even HOF players have had bad games. No, for the haters, I am not saying he is a HOF player.
 

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This game the haters managed to convince emotional fans to join the "Dax Sucked" narrative.

Garrett has been a complete failure this season and Garrett reached an all time low with the Bills game.

Many fans wanted Garrett to fail beyond the point of no return and now he has done it.

Yet, the majority of fans are so emotional that they can't even realize what has happened.

They want to cry and claim that Dak had a bad game.

None of the cry-babies have even reviewed the game but think that they know what happened.

Emotional Fan: "Awe seen it wit my own eye balls...that Dak feller sux"

Question to emotional fans: Did you review the game?

Emotional Fan: Naw. I don't do that.

Question to emotional fan: Don't you want to know that really happened?

Emotional Fan: Well, I had a 12 pack during the game and only missed a dozen or so plays while I went to recycle that beeeer. Oh yah, I also went out to smoke a few times but my buddies told me what happened.

Summary:
The Cowboys lost.

Emotional Fans can't get a narrative going on the usual suspects below:
  • Garrett succeed on his high risk 4th down call. Makes it harder to blame him.
  • Zeke didn't get stuffed much (because he barely had any rushes). Makes it harder to blame him.
  • The defense didn't have that many terrible plays. Makes it harder to blame them...
  • The WRs didn't have too many drops. Makes it harder to blame them.
  • Jeff Heath did NOT play. Makes it harder to blame him, although @Sydia probably did anyway...
  • Jourdan Lewis did play. Emotional fans asked for him. They won't admit he was one of the worst players in the game.

That leaves Dak to take the the blame. Just a few negative posts about Dak and the followers with get on board the narrative. People that have not and never have reviewed game footage will argue any and all points about the positive aspects of how Dak played.

Emotion Fans will claim Dak sucked until the Cowboys next big win and then many of them will deny even claiming Dak sucked. The others will go back to their hovels just waiting for another game where they can entice emotional fans into believing their narrative that Dak sux.

There are probably still a few lingering Romo haters that hope he will return to play in the NFL and will really suck which would allow them to attempt to create a narrative that he always sucked. I envision one of those Japanese Soldiers cast away on an island and 10 years later didn't know the war was over.
What a wretched post. Dak didn't play well when it mattered, a pattern against teams that don't suck.
But yeah call everyone who doesn't agree with you an alcoholic moron. Project much?
 

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This game the haters managed to convince emotional fans to join the "Dax Sucked" narrative.

Garrett has been a complete failure this season and Garrett reached an all time low with the Bills game.

Many fans wanted Garrett to fail beyond the point of no return and now he has done it.

Yet, the majority of fans are so emotional that they can't even realize what has happened.

They want to cry and claim that Dak had a bad game.

None of the cry-babies have even reviewed the game but think that they know what happened.

Emotional Fan: "Awe seen it wit my own eye balls...that Dak feller sux"

Question to emotional fans: Did you review the game?

Emotional Fan: Naw. I don't do that.

Question to emotional fan: Don't you want to know that really happened?

Emotional Fan: Well, I had a 12 pack during the game and only missed a dozen or so plays while I went to recycle that beeeer. Oh yah, I also went out to smoke a few times but my buddies told me what happened.

Summary:
The Cowboys lost.

Emotional Fans can't get a narrative going on the usual suspects below:
  • Garrett succeed on his high risk 4th down call. Makes it harder to blame him.
  • Zeke didn't get stuffed much (because he barely had any rushes). Makes it harder to blame him.
  • The defense didn't have that many terrible plays. Makes it harder to blame them...
  • The WRs didn't have too many drops. Makes it harder to blame them.
  • Jeff Heath did NOT play. Makes it harder to blame him, although @Sydia probably did anyway...
  • Jourdan Lewis did play. Emotional fans asked for him. They won't admit he was one of the worst players in the game.

That leaves Dak to take the the blame. Just a few negative posts about Dak and the followers with get on board the narrative. People that have not and never have reviewed game footage will argue any and all points about the positive aspects of how Dak played.

Emotion Fans will claim Dak sucked until the Cowboys next big win and then many of them will deny even claiming Dak sucked. The others will go back to their hovels just waiting for another game where they can entice emotional fans into believing their narrative that Dak sux.

There are probably still a few lingering Romo haters that hope he will return to play in the NFL and will really suck which would allow them to attempt to create a narrative that he always sucked. I envision one of those Japanese Soldiers cast away on an island and 10 years later didn't know the war was over.
how about this dak made some good plays and some really bad plays.
To me the reason was he was passing too much, and not running the ball enough. with bills pass rush dak needed to take off and run from the pocket early to set a tone.
Then once it was obvious the run was working better than the pass, they should have went run heavy but they stayed with the pass which led to all the bad plays, and was exactly what the bills wanted.
 
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