If you can only have one next year who is your pick? Cooper or Dak?

gjkoeppen said:

Again where's your "truth"? Have you had many many long discussions with Jones and he told you there is zero chance he could get both signed? All your doing is projecting your uninformed opinion as some kind of facts or truth. Bad try.
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Odds are against Mr. Jones here. Sorry, but that's the truth. Who's to say Dak and Amari won't hold out if they are tagged? Who's to say the rules of the tags and money management aren't changed before we get them signed? With the way our cap space is set up now, Cooper's agent talking out of his arse, odds are getting smaller. It's called hypothetical/Theoretical science. What I have isn't a "bad try". It's science. What you and many other Dallas fans have are poor optimism, which can be good in some situations, but not in situations like this. Sorry.

ABQCOWBOY said:

Cooper is going to be able to run routes and get open, no matter who the QB is. I don't see how this statement can be possible. I mean, I'm not saying you sign one over the other but Cooper is going to be a really good WR no matter what uniform he is wearing.

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Didn't work out in Oakland. So, you can't say he can do what he does here anywhere. We have proof that is not true. Clearly, he needs the right QB and the right offensive scheme.

erod said:

He does it against nobodies and in garbage time against somebodies.

He has the best talent around him in the league.

When he does it against good defenses when it matters, I'll change my mind.

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I guess they can turn it off and on when they want to gain yrds.

He has the best talent? Thought Amari disappears.

Elliot is fat and lazy, Witten is old..You mean Gallup?

AmariChill said:

Odds are against Mr. Jones here. Sorry, but that's the truth. Who's to say Dak and Amari won't hold out if they are tagged? Who's to say the rules of the tags and money management aren't changed before we get them signed? With the way our cap space is set up now, Cooper's agent talking out of his arse, odds are getting smaller. It's called hypothetical/Theoretical science. What I have isn't a "bad try". It's science. What you and many other Dallas fans have are poor optimism, which can be good in some situations, but not in situations like this. Sorry.

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First off the CBA expires after the 2020 season and they haven't even started to negotiate yet. Last time it took 11 moths of negotiating to get that CBA so do you really think with your hypothetical/theoretical science that a new CBA is going to be negotiated before the new league starts in March when franchise and transition tags can be used? Next look up what hypothetical and theoretical means.

Webster's definition:

hypothetical : involving or being based on a suggested idea or theory ( in other words guessing)
theoretical : confined to theory or speculation often in contrast to practical applications ( in other words again guessing in contract to practical applications)

Trying to use big words does not make them relevant or prove any point.
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LatinMind said:

I guess they can turn it off and on when they want to gain yrds.

He has the best talent? Thought Amari disappears.

Elliot is fat and lazy, Witten is old..You mean Gallup?

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If only yardage mattered like you thought it did. It doesn't.

Dude looked like crap early against Washington and Miami. Hasn't beaten a winning team this year. Slow start after slow start after slow start.

erod said:

If only yardage mattered like you thought it did. It doesn't.

Dude looked like crap early against Washington and Miami. Hasn't beaten a winning team this year. Slow start after slow start after slow start.

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Im not saying yrds are whats mattered. What it does show is that theyre not disappearing. Its called production.

If you go to this team since 2016, they've been slow starters. If you go back to when JG first got the job, Romo had constant slow starts. Maybe just maybe its the system run?

gjkoeppen said:

First off the CBA expires after the 2020 season and they haven't even started to negotiate yet. Last time it took 11 moths of negotiating to get that CBA so do you really think with your hypothetical/theoretical science that a new CBA is going to be negotiated before the new league starts in March when franchise and transition tags can be used? Next look up what hypothetical and theoretical means.

Webster's definition:

hypothetical : involving or being based on a suggested idea or theory ( in other words guessing)
theoretical : confined to theory or speculation often in contrast to practical applications ( in other words again guessing in contract to practical applications)

Trying to use big words does not make them relevant or prove any point.
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CBA can do whatever it wants in whatever time frame it wants, so the nonsense you wrote in the beginning means nothing.

How about you look up more than one definition, Sir. gjkoeppen

Hypothetical: supposed but not necessarily real or true.
I supposed a theory. A hypothesis is a scientific guess. That means take what I said with a grain of salt.

Theoretical definition: existing only in theory; hypothetical.
given to, forming, or dealing with theories; speculative.

This here means the same as the above hypothetical definition. Like I said, you are in a long line of people that have tried to come for me. You will NOT win. Give it up. @phildadon86 is banned for a week because he tried me. He made a bet against me and was very wrong. Don't be like him, because it won't end well.

PAPPYDOG said:

What will we miss without Dak?
2016 was due primarily to ZEKE and Dak was new to the league no film yada yada well you get the idea.
Tell us now from 2017 and onwards what will we miss from Prescott?
His anemic Red-Zone offense? His Panic attacks, his very poor Pocket awr that brings along a bunch of fumbles.
His inaccurate arm?
The fact we are unable to beat a good defense and are always behind score wise in the majority of our games?
6-6 do it for you bud?
If you like what you see about our offense than you have a very SMALL cup when it comes to expectations about our Cowboys.

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the question is not getting rid of them. its who do you replace them with and are they better.

I have had my full share of Dak Criticism and wanted to see him improve and he has improved. there were things in the past three year he needed to improve on and it seems like he has. I am realistic so I didn't expect him to be perfect going from year 3 to year 4, working on some of his flaws. its a work in progress, but for all intent and purposes he has improved.

does he still have some flaws? yes. he misses some easy throws. he still throws behind some of his recievers.

so how easy is it to replace Dak? who do you have in mind?

I just think its easier to replace Cooper than it would be Dak. without a good QB, there would be no one to throw it to the WRs and that's even worse.

also, I think some of the issues is with coaching.....we have been really beaten in two games that we had a very low chance to win, the GB and Bills game, but the other losses were close and we could have won, with better situational coaching. NO, New Engalnd and Jets and Minny were stupid losses. lets say we even lost one of those games...we should at least be 9-3 with better coaching....

Cooper duh

#DontpayDak

LatinMind said:

Im not saying yrds are whats mattered. What it does show is that theyre not disappearing. Its called production.

If you go to this team since 2016, they've been slow starters. If you go back to when JG first got the job, Romo had constant slow starts. Maybe just maybe its the system run?

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When was the last time Cooper had a good game on the road? He's had 9 games here already under 50 yards.

When was the last time Dak beat a really good team?

And no, Romo did not have slow starts all the time. Another subject entirely.

AmariChill said:

CBA can do whatever it wants in whatever time frame it wants, so the nonsense you wrote in the beginning means nothing.

How about you look up more than one definition, Sir. gjkoeppen

Hypothetical: supposed but not necessarily real or true.
I supposed a theory. A hypothesis is a scientific guess. That means take what I said with a grain of salt.

Theoretical definition: existing only in theory; hypothetical.
given to, forming, or dealing with theories; speculative.

This here means the same as the above hypothetical definition. Like I said, you are in a long line of people that have tried to come for me. You will NOT win. Give it up. @phildadon86 is banned for a week because he tried me. He made a bet against me and was very wrong. Don't be like him, because it won't end well.

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You are true about the CBA but history doesn't bode well for it getting done before the new league starts. You can use all the hypothetical whatever you want but I don't think either the NFL or NFLPA care one way or another. I also love how your bold definition helps me and hurts you. NOT NECESSARILY REAL OR TRUE. and the other used hypothetical in it's definition and ends with SPECULATION. None of this helps explain how Jones won't get both Prescott and Cooper signed either outright or by using both tags.

Since you can't offer any hard facts to prove Jones can't or won't, you can babble all you want but this is my last reply to you on this.
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erod said:

When was the last time Cooper had a good game on the road? He's had 9 games here already under 50 yards.

When was the last time Dak beat a really good team?

And no, Romo did not have slow starts all the time. Another subject entirely.

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Answer this for me than. Why is it that if Romo didn't start slow, at least more often than what you think, why is while he was playing he had more 4th quarter come from behind wins than any other QB. BTW, I was a huge Romo fan.
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gjkoeppen said:

You forget he missed the jets game with an injury.
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Thanks, forgot about that... probably because we shouldn't have needed him.

gjkoeppen said:

You are true about the CBA but history doesn't bode well for it getting done before the new league starts. You can use all the hypothetical whatever you want but I don't think either the NFL or NFLPA care one way or another. I also love how your bold definition helps me and hurts you. NOT NECESSARILY REAL OR TRUE. and the other used hypothetical in it's definition and ends with SPECULATION. None of this helps explain how Jones won't get both Prescott and Cooper signed either outright or by using both tags.

Since you can't offer any hard facts to prove Jones can't or won't, you can babble all you want but this is my last reply to you on this.
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I never stated what I said was 100% true. I said to look at it as an option/way for this question to be answered. You came at me as if it wasn't a possibility. Anyways, stay scared. I won again. Lay with the rest. Aka, Phildadon, Proof, DakPresgoat, and many more. You'll see in the end that my predictions/theories always reign supreme.

atlantacowboy said:

Didn't work out in Oakland. So, you can't say he can do what he does here anywhere. We have proof that is not true. Clearly, he needs the right QB and the right offensive scheme.

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This is not true. He had some good seasons in Oakland but he also had some down years in Oakland. Be that as it may, he's proven he can play at a very high level in the NFL. Teams know this, they aren't going to look at Oakland and say, "Oh, he can't get it done." Teams are going to look at the situation in Oakland and then look at what he did here and say, get some talent around Cooper and he can put up numbers. Cooper can run routes and that doesn't change, regardless of what uniform he's wearing so yes, what I said earlier is 100% true. If he doesn't get the ball or the Offense can't execute, it's not because he can't run routes.

erod said:

When was the last time Cooper had a good game on the road? He's had 9 games here already under 50 yards.

When was the last time Dak beat a really good team?

And no, Romo did not have slow starts all the time. Another subject entirely.

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Lol another subject entirely, i guess because they have one thing in common. They were playing in the same system.

Proof said:

what on earth does one have to do with the other?

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Saying Cooper owes the Cowboys, when he was a two time pro bowler in three years, with multiple parties interested in his services, and the Cowboys and Dak clearly sucked offensively without him is laughable...

khiladi said:

Saying Cooper owes the Cowboys, when he was a two time pro bowler in three years, with multiple parties interested in his services, and the Cowboys and Dak clearly sucked offensively without him is laughable...

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ehhh. He was in the midst of a downward trajectory, was being called out for his “lack of passion and love for the game” and you can look no further then our own board imploding when we traded for him to get a pulse of his reputation at the time. He’s obviously an incredible talent and would be fine regardless, but he definitely made himself a ton of extra money due to his move here and his resurgence.

gjkoeppen said:

Answer this for me than. Why is it that if Romo didn't start slow, at least more often than what you think, why is while he was playing he had more 4th quarter come from behind wins than any other QB. BTW, I was a huge Romo fan.
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He wasn't coming back from 31-3 like this year. Romo was trying to outscore the worst defenses in Cowboys history.

It's comical how some posters on here think you can replace Dak's production by holding tryouts in a Walmart parking lot.