Cowboys in firm control of NFCE

JayFord

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If we win tonight and philly loses monday that might be all we need
 

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On the flip side, if Dallas loses to Philly, the Eagles will likely hold the tiebreaker.

It probably comes down to that game because neither team looks poised to finish strong.

The Cowboys could easily lose the next two games.
Why will Philly likely hold the tiebreaker if they beat Dallas? I assume if they split the games, and end up with the same record, the tiebreaker will be division record, and things sit today the Cowboys are 4-0 in the division, and the Eagles are 1-1. If the Eagles beat the Cowboys that just moves the needle to 4-1 for the Cowboys, and 2-1 for the Eagles.
 

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Simple enough - we beat the eagles we’re in. Again even if we lose to both the bears and rams . And even if we go into week 16 down a game.

Winning that game ties us. Then all we’d have to do is beat skins week 17.

Eagles lose any other division game it would also put us in the drivers seat.

pretry much they have to win out and we can afford to lose a game or two
 

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The Cowboys essentially have a two game lead on the Eagles by virtue of the tie breaker. If the Cowboys beat the Eagles, gaining one game and maintaining the tie breaker it would be an almost insurmountable lead for the Eagles to overcome.

6 and 6!
Still in the mix!
 

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Why will Philly likely hold the tiebreaker if they beat Dallas? I assume if they split the games, and end up with the same record, the tiebreaker will be division record, and things sit today the Cowboys are 4-0 in the division, and the Eagles are 1-1. If the Eagles beat the Cowboys that just moves the needle to 4-1 for the Cowboys, and 2-1 for the Eagles.

Are you assuming Philly loses one of the games to the Giants or Skins?
 

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what the cowboys need to do more than anything is win their games and then they wont have to worry about any thing else they need ot win and keep winning or there will be huge changes for coaches and players
 

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Are you assuming Philly loses one of the games to the Giants or Skins?
I'm not assuming they will, but they do have 4 more division games in which they have the opportunity to lose.

Bottom line is, as things sit today, the Cowboys have 3 more division wins and one less division loss than the Eagles. That means at worst, the Cowboys would end up with 2 division losses, which in turn means the Eagles cannot come out on top of a tiebreaker if they lose to the Cowboys. The Cowboys, however, can still be on top of the tie breaker even if they lose to the Eagles, because as things sit today the Eagles could beat the Cowboys but still end up with 4 division losses.

That's not to say I expect the Eagles to beat the Cowboys but lose the rest of their games, but they do have more opportunities to stub their toe in the division than the Cowboys do.
 

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I'm not assuming they will, but they do have 4 more division games in which they have the opportunity to lose.

Bottom line is, as things sit today, the Cowboys have 3 more division wins and one less division loss than the Eagles. That means at worst, the Cowboys would end up with 2 division losses, which in turn means the Eagles cannot come out on top of a tiebreaker if they lose to the Cowboys. The Cowboys, however, can still be on top of the tie breaker even if they lose to the Eagles, because as things sit today the Eagles could beat the Cowboys but still end up with 4 division losses.

That's not to say I expect the Eagles to beat the Cowboys but lose the rest of their games, but they do have more opportunities to stub their toe in the division than the Cowboys do.
Philly can beat the Cowboys and just lose one other game. If that happens, and Dallas wins one of the next two, then beats the Commanders, that makes the Cowboys NFC East champs with the better division record -- 5-1 to the Eagles' 4-2.
 

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Philly can beat the Cowboys and just lose one other game. If that happens, and Dallas wins one of the next two, then beats the Commanders, that makes the Cowboys NFC East champs with the better division record -- 5-1 to the Eagles' 4-2.
Yes. I was only referring to tie breaker scenarios in response to another poster who said if the Eagles beat the Cowboys the Eagles will likely have the tiebreaker, but that doesn't mean it will even come down to a tie breaker.
 

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If the Cowboys come out flat tonight, then all these scenarios are moot. It will be 97% certain that it will come down to just needing to beat the Commanders and they'll come up short.
 

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The Eagles control their own destiny too.

Not true. If the Eagles win out, they will be 9-7. But if the Cowboys beat the Bears tonight, and then go on to win every game except the Eagles game, they will also be 9-7 and own the tiebreaker with Philadelphia due to record against common opponents. That is why the Dolphins loss was so big for them.

As for the OP, beating Philly is not good enough. They’ll have to beat Philly and Washington. In fact, the next two games almost don’t matter (except for momentum) as long as they win the final two.
 

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The division could be clinched by now if the Cowboys didn't stink it up. In a perfect world 10-2 would be about right. Losses to the Saints and Packers I accept. But we had NO business losing the rest.

But they laid the usual stink bomb and have to claw and rip their way through this. Exactly what we expect from a Jason Garrett led team.
 

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Not true. If the Eagles win out, they will be 9-7. But if the Cowboys beat the Bears tonight, and then go on to win every game except the Eagles game, they will also be 9-7 and own the tiebreaker with Philadelphia due to record against common opponents. That is why the Dolphins loss was so big for them.

As for the OP, beating Philly is not good enough. They’ll have to beat Philly and Washington. In fact, the next two games almost don’t matter (except for momentum) as long as they win the final two.

The Cowboys don't beat the Eagles in common opponents. The Eagles beat the Jets, Bills, and Chicago. We lose that tie breaker. Philly 3-1 and Dallas 2-2.
 

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..we're going to the Super Bowl. ;)... *slips on banana peel falls down the stairs*
 

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Not true. If the Eagles win out, they will be 9-7. But if the Cowboys beat the Bears tonight, and then go on to win every game except the Eagles game, they will also be 9-7 and own the tiebreaker with Philadelphia due to record against common opponents. That is why the Dolphins loss was so big for them.

As for the OP, beating Philly is not good enough. They’ll have to beat Philly and Washington. In fact, the next two games almost don’t matter (except for momentum) as long as they win the final two.

Eagles would win the common opponents tiebreaker.

They are 2-2 against the AFCE vs Cowboys 1-3.
They are 2-2 against the NFCN vs Cowboys 2-2 (if they beat the Bears tonight)
 

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Not true. If the Eagles win out, they will be 9-7. But if the Cowboys beat the Bears tonight, and then go on to win every game except the Eagles game, they will also be 9-7 and own the tiebreaker with Philadelphia due to record against common opponents. That is why the Dolphins loss was so big for them.

As for the OP, beating Philly is not good enough. They’ll have to beat Philly and Washington. In fact, the next two games almost don’t matter (except for momentum) as long as they win the final two.

We don’t have the common opponents advantage.
 

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Just win tonight. Our defense needs to show up. The offense needs to score 20 points, play field position and avoid turnovers. It’s that simple, and it’s that difficult since our defense has been missing regularly. Moore needs to play conservativeLy and just sprinkle in big plays.
 
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