Is this team talented?

Creeper

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They have some talent on defense and offense, but what's missing on defense is technique. Let me ask these questions. If the Cowboys were tackling like the Bears last night, would the final score have been different and how so? If the Cowboys played tight coverages and played the ball instead of the receiver, would they have more interceptions and more passes defended? If the Cowboys did not commit stupid penalties and 3rd and long would the Bears have kept their drives alive? If the Cowboys pass rushers maintained lane discipline would Trubisky have been more or less effective throwing and running?

I think we know the answers to all of these questions. This questions are the root of the problems with this defense. Its not talent, its skill. Skill can be taught, talent cannot. You can teach a lesser player how to tackle. You can teach him to look back for the football when a receiver does. You can teach a player to be disciplined and not commit penalties. These are the things missing from the Cowboys defense. We've seen these defensive players play a lot better than they are playing this year. This is another reason why the coaching staff needs to be replaced. These young players need proper training and preparation before they are ruined by coaches who don't seem to care about the way the players play. There is talent on this team, certainly more than we saw last night. But its is being wasted.
 

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Very weak at DT and S, but overall I still think this is a talented defense. The positions the cowboys put their players in completely stuns me though. How many games can we play where we refuse to even attempt to disguise our coverage? How many 3rd and 6 plays will we continue to play our corners 5 yards off the line, and then go into an immediate backpedal after the snap? Couldnt stop the bears at all on 3rd down yesterday and it's due to this super passive approach. I get bend but dont break, but this has gone next level and is basically a prevent defense from the start.
 

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I sure thought the team was talented coming into the year. I literally have no confidence in any one player on this team. You can't get rid of the entire team but there is no one player I would want the team to definitely keep if a decent trade came along. If they decide to move on from Cooper and/or Dak, I'm fine with that. Trade Zeke or DLaw...go for it.
What about Gallup? I really like him and I'd really think twice before letting him go.
 

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They're talented, but the schemes are vanilla. I bet our opponents talk to the Cowboys players on the field, telling them, "Dude, we know what you're going to run. Watch. Zeke through the three hole."

When the Bears call three consecutive pass plays targeting Jaylon Smith, they're telling us we're too simplistic, and we won't make any adjustments to stop what they're doing.

And I think our players are tired of it. They've given up.
For the good of this franchise (no, Jerry's not going to step aside), Jerry has to gut this coaching staff and start anew.
 

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Yes,but it’s individual and athletic talent. We need mind and team football talent. Too many unfocused players. FB pass example regardless why ....I’ve rarely seen any back go out the flat that far without looking “knowing” he’s the play,unless you’re running a deep one,which they weren’t. Those type things..need mental toughness. Their heads get lost a lot...it’s been that way all season.
 

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No, been saying it for weeks. Jones and Son trumpet the talent, they put it together so of course they think its great, the lap dog media eats it up and the fans buy it.

This team has some talented players, but they are woefully short at some positions and this is NOWHERE CLOSE to being a deep team. 1 injury shreds them. Yeah, the coaching blows but this roster is weak and soft **
 

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Yes...#1 offense, #10 defense.....#32 Coaching staff.

Lacking Interior D-line, Safety, Kicker, Coaching "staff"

Defensive coaching staff is worse then JG
 

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The problem is not what we think but the architects of the team, they think this team has the talent to go to the Big Dance. The GM has openly questioned the coaching but never the talent.

Many assumed every player on the D would get better and not one has.

The real illusion that some have is that this team has been a drafting dynamo. First round OL, the surest pick in that round, are easy pickings compared to the later rounds where teams are truly made. Look deeper in the draft and while they did pick some DB's, are any really any better than a jag? You can make a case for Quinn and Bennett being the best additions on the D and they had to give up picks to get them.

The toughest thing to isolate is why is this D so inconsistent? Is it coaching or the talent? Until we get a different DC in there, we really won't know but if the Joneses go with a college coach, this will not improve over the long haul. Most teams respond to change in a positive fashion but then it settles in.

However, in the defense of the present coaching, that game was all about the lack of execution last night so the talent did not deliver.
 

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No.

To be a talented football player, you have to play well in a football game. If you crap the bed on the field, that's not "wasted talent" that's a lack of talent .

The word that should be used more frequently , especially with the 2019 Cowboys is "potential". Some players have a higher ceiling than others - they have a greater potential to be talented football players . Getting the most out of those players can be a result of coaching, individual effort, or a combination of both.

But this is not a talented team, or a team full of talented players, that was wasted by poor coaching. It is a team that had the potential to be talented and that potential was never realized.
 

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I sure thought the team was talented coming into the year. I literally have no confidence in any one player on this team. You can't get rid of the entire team but there is no one player I would want the team to definitely keep if a decent trade came along. If they decide to move on from Cooper and/or Dak, I'm fine with that. Trade Zeke or DLaw...go for it.

Only thing that would be irritating, is the fact that we know it would be like spitting in our face, how much they would ball out for another team, just for spite. Here, they seem to be able to just go through the motions.

I realize it is just a job to some players... I don't know how they can feel like that, but I realize it is the truth. I just don't know how you can't understand how lucky you are to be a professional football player, and how incredible it would be to be remembered as a champion.

I seriously just don't think they care.
 

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The problem is not what we think but the architects of the team, they think this team has the talent to go to the Big Dance. The GM has openly questioned the coaching but never the talent.

Many assumed every player on the D would get better and not one has.

The real illusion that some have is that this team has been a drafting dynamo. First round OL, the surest pick in that round, are easy pickings compared to the later rounds where teams are truly made. Look deeper in the draft and while they did pick some DB's, are any really any better than a jag? You can make a case for Quinn and Bennett being the best additions on the D and they had to give up picks to get them.

The toughest thing to isolate is why is this D so inconsistent? Is it coaching or the talent? Until we get a different DC in there, we really won't know but if the Joneses go with a college coach, this will not improve over the long haul. Most teams respond to change in a positive fashion but then it settles in.

However, in the defense of the present coaching, that game was all about the lack of execution last night so the talent did not deliver.
Get ready cause we are about to go through 4 coaches in 8 years. If we are like the giants, it will be 4 coaches in 6 years and they still have not found one yet.

I think next year us fans are going to be even more disappointed.
 

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There is some talent. All NFL teams have talent.

But I don’t expect anyone from our defense to make Pro Bowl this year.

And something they also talked about that doesn’t measure up to other top 10 defenses is lack of turnovers . And I’d add lack of sacks.

All great defenses begin up front. We haven’t caused the pressure and created havoc like we did last year.
And lack of tackles before 10 yards. Don't forget that one.
 

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Before the game, all Fox could do was talk the Cowboys up. You even heard Troy and Buck talk about the defense being "top 10." This defense has not stopped the run all year, mobile QB's have had their way all year and they cannot tackle. Our offense can be amazing at times but are far too inconsistent. We have some talent on offense but I really don't think there is any real talent on defense. In fact, I'd argue that Jeff Heath plays harder than any other defender out there. Are the Cowboys talented? Not near as talented as they think they are.

The front 7 on defense has been terrible, and the safety play has been below average.

The offense seems confused on what identity they want to have.
 

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yes, but they are not focused, neither are the coaches. I question how much film they are watching and even if they are watching are they focused. we seem to play like our brain is in a fog, step too slow in recognizing, not caring, its very obvious we are not on the same page and there are a few who are just free lancing at this point. this is a mess. everyone is either quit or in process of quitting including the head coach. didn't see one clap from him last night, just counting down the minutes and games...
Garrett looks so miserable at this point. He should swallow his pride and just resign. Bow out gracefully.
 

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Talent and no coaching < Less talent and good coaching. Period
 

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Yes..

They are underachievers though with a coach that is and has always been bottom of the barrel.
 

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No. The talent is grossly overrated. They have some good pieces in place, and occasionally make some nice splash plays, but NO WAY does this team possess championship level talent. Who controlled the line of scrimmage in the Bears game? On either side of the ball? The D couldn't tackle, and the QB looked awful once again.
 
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