Dak and Jaylon

Number1 · Dec 7, 2019

these guys who weren't suppose to make it ... according to many wasted picks

Dak currently leads the NFL in passing, and has never missed a start

Jaylon currently leads the NFL in tackles, 3 years ago it was doubtful he'd ever be able skip rope

as bad as we sometimes talk about these guys - that's pretty darn good

and the biggest thing they both bring to the game is character

PAPPYDOG · Dec 7, 2019

Number1 said:
these guys who weren't suppose to make it ... according to many wasted picks

Dak currently leads the NFL in passing, and has never missed a start

Jaylon currently leads the NFL in tackles, 3 years ago it was doubtful he'd ever be able skip rope

as bad as we sometimes talk about these guys - that's pretty darn good

and the biggest thing they both bring to the game is character

Hey, number 1 you're going to be downgraded to no 0 ASAP....
:facepalm:

Miller · Dec 7, 2019

Number1 said:
these guys who weren't suppose to make it ... according to many wasted picks

Dak currently leads the NFL in passing, and has never missed a start

Jaylon currently leads the NFL in tackles, 3 years ago it was doubtful he'd ever be able skip rope

as bad as we sometimes talk about these guys - that's pretty darn good

and the biggest thing they both bring to the game is character

Sorry but I'll agree on Dak but Jaylon is always out of position and honestly his constant celebrations about simple tasks is annoying. Especially doing them over a hurt guy.

MysteryIceGuro · Dec 7, 2019

Number1 said:
these guys who weren't suppose to make it ... according to many wasted picks

Dak currently leads the NFL in passing, and has never missed a start

Jaylon currently leads the NFL in tackles, 3 years ago it was doubtful he'd ever be able skip rope

as bad as we sometimes talk about these guys - that's pretty darn good

and the biggest thing they both bring to the game is character

And these supposed “guys that weren’t supposed to make it” are 6-7. Congrats :facepalm:

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They are the Kings of Garbage time stats.

mattjames2010 · Dec 7, 2019

Number1 said:
these guys who weren't suppose to make it ... according to many wasted picks

Dak currently leads the NFL in passing, and has never missed a start

Jaylon currently leads the NFL in tackles, 3 years ago it was doubtful he'd ever be able skip rope

as bad as we sometimes talk about these guys - that's pretty darn good

and the biggest thing they both bring to the game is character

Jaylon has sucked. lol

baltcowboy · Dec 7, 2019

Dak has chance to throw for 5000 yards. Who would have thought that two years ago. The fact that Jaylon is playing is a miracle. With all his drop foot issues he is the linebacker that does not miss games. Still I would not pay Dak 30+ million and Jaylon seems to be regressing.

mattjames2010 · Dec 7, 2019

baltcowboy said:
Dak has chance to throw for 5000 yards. Who would have thought that last two years ago. The fact that Jaylon is playing is a miracle. With all his drop foot issues he is the linebacker that does not miss games. Still I would not pay Dak 30+ million and Jaylon seems to be regressing.

Pass yards mean nothing, he's leading the league in pass attempts. That's why he leads, like the reason Big Ben led last year - he threw over 600 times.

I care about TD:INT ratio when combined with pass attempts. Dak had a stretch of 3 3 TD games, but has had 3 games with 0 TD passes. Jackson, Wilson, Watson, Cousins, Rodgers, Garropolo, Stafford, and Mahomes all have equal or more TD passes than Dak with nearly 100 or more fewer pass attempts.

black label · Dec 7, 2019

Number1 said:
these guys who weren't suppose to make it ... according to many wasted picks

Dak currently leads the NFL in passing, and has never missed a start

Jaylon currently leads the NFL in tackles, 3 years ago it was doubtful he'd ever be able skip rope

as bad as we sometimes talk about these guys - that's pretty darn good

and the biggest thing they both bring to the game is character

baltcowboy · Dec 7, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Pass yards mean nothing, he's leading the league in pass attempts. That's why he leads, like the reason Big Ben led last year - he threw over 600 times.

I care about TD:INT ratio when combined with pass attempts. Dak had a stretch of 3 3 TD games, but has had 3 games with 0 TD passes. Jackson, Wilson, Watson, Cousins, Rodgers, Garropolo, Stafford, and Mahomes all have equal or more TD passes than Dak with nearly 100 or more fewer pass attempts.

We are becoming the Atlanta Falcons. We should let Dak and Cooper go put their money into defense and special teams.

Irvin88_4life · Dec 7, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Pass yards mean nothing, he's leading the league in pass attempts. That's why he leads, like the reason Big Ben led last year - he threw over 600 times.

I care about TD:INT ratio when combined with pass attempts. Dak had a stretch of 3 3 TD games, but has had 3 games with 0 TD passes. Jackson, Wilson, Watson, Cousins, Rodgers, Garropolo, Stafford, and Mahomes all have equal or more TD passes than Dak with nearly 100 or more fewer pass attempts.

I get what you're saying but you also have to factor that Dak doesn't have a defense or special teams that give him great field advantage while every QB you listed has defenses and special teams that gives them short fields to work with.

Ranching · Dec 7, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
I get what you're saying but you also have to factor that Dak doesn't have a defense or special teams that give him great field advantage while every QB you listed has defenses and special teams that gives them short fields to work with.

Yep!!

mattjames2010 · Dec 7, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
I get what you're saying but you also have to factor that Dak doesn't have a defense or special teams that give him great field advantage while every QB you listed has defenses and special teams that gives them short fields to work with.

It really doesn't matter, we are stalling out on the opponents side of the field which is why Maher has a high number of FG attempts - Dak's TD:INT ratio in the red zone looks good - but we are still failing there consistently when we do get there.

https://sportdfw.com/2019/12/04/dallas-cowboys-red-zone-problem/

"As much as it pains me to say, (as a big-time Dak Prescott supporter and long-time Ezekiel Elliott critic) the numbers suggest the problem in the red zone is Dak Prescott and the passing game and not Zeke and the running game."

There's not much to indicate we'd do well even if we did get turnovers - we have a fundamental problem of performance with a short field.

baltcowboy · Dec 7, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
I get what you're saying but you also have to factor that Dak doesn't have a defense or special teams that give him great field advantage while every QB you listed has defenses and special teams that gives them short fields to work with.

That's why you can't pay him 30+ million. You need to restock the team.

egn22 · Dec 7, 2019

Coaching coaching coaching, don’t tell me about the players until I see them in a new system. We already know they can play, they’ve proven it over and over again. They just need to be coached up!!!!

Creeper · Dec 7, 2019

Both players have to play better. Period. Dak has been atrocious that last two games. What's worse is he has regressed to the old Dak. Pocket presence and mechanics look like last year. I am guessing he can be coached out of this but I am not sure it can happen during this season. He may need another off season or it could be something he slips back into for the rest of his career. Hopefully not. Jaylon is playing, which is a miracle considering his injury, but he is not playing particularly well and I don't care how many tackles he has. I think he is playing the wrong position. Jaylon struggles avoiding and getting off blocks in running game and he has the same issue with pass defense as the rest of the team, he doesn't look for the ball. The TD against him was a belly high pass when he was all over the receiver. The only reason he didn't pick it off was because was had his back to the ball and never looked back. If Jaylon Smith had the football instincts of Sean Lee, he would be an all pro.

Number1 · Dec 7, 2019

PAPPYDOG said:
Hey, number 1 you're going to be downgraded to no 0 ASAP....

you're twisted but consistent and belligerent - I like that

Arkyvarminter · Dec 7, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Jaylon has sucked. lol

Do you watch the games?

charron · Dec 7, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Pass yards mean nothing, he's leading the league in pass attempts. That's why he leads, like the reason Big Ben led last year - he threw over 600 times.

I care about TD:INT ratio when combined with pass attempts. Dak had a stretch of 3 3 TD games, but has had 3 games with 0 TD passes. Jackson, Wilson, Watson, Cousins, Rodgers, Garropolo, Stafford, and Mahomes all have equal or more TD passes than Dak with nearly 100 or more fewer pass attempts.

just need to bump this so some of these guys see it again.

PAPPYDOG · Dec 7, 2019

Number1 said:
you're twisted but consistent and belligerent - I like that

Now you're on track for A1 status keep it up!!! :clap:

mattjames2010 · Dec 7, 2019

Arkyvarminter said:
Do you watch the games?

Yeah...I do, and he's been awful.

9 missed tackles before facing the Bears, I can promise you that is up to around 13-14 now. LVE had 12 in 9 games. Lee has, I think, 8.

The entire LB group has been garbage.

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There are no Dak haters just Cowboy lovers!!!

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