Conspiracy Theory: Cowboys & Urban Meyer

CapnB · Dec 7, 2019

Kevinicus said:
Yes...I just fail how it applies to anything xwalker posts.

I dont always agree with him/her. But the dude or chick.. i cant remember at the moment. He/She is a really good writer and knows his/her stuff about this team.

Kevinicus · Dec 7, 2019

CapnB said:
I dont always agree with him/her. But the dude or chick.. i cant remember at the moment. He/She is a really good writer and knows his/her stuff about this team.

I will respectfully disagree.

CapnB · Dec 7, 2019

Kevinicus said:
I will respectfully disagree.

thats cool bro. respect

KingintheNorth · Dec 7, 2019

Guys, Stephen has had a plan all along...

See, my ridiculous beliefs that this family knows what they are doing were not unfounded!

Go Jones' !!!!

Tabascocat · Dec 7, 2019

Was Spaulding involved in these shenanigans????

LatinMind · Dec 8, 2019

Kaiser said:
He was 24 when Jerry bought the Cowboys. What exactly was Stephen involved in?

https://www.dmagazine.com/publicati...s-cowboys-stephen-jones-jerry-jones-the-star/
According to Stephen, Jerry told Bum he wasn’t going to pay that kind of money for something losing $1 million a month and then let someone else run his business. Bum called back and told Jerry that Tex was out of the picture … that “his time had expired.” All that was left was coming to terms on the price.

The price was $140 million—or about $110 million less than what Jerry paid earlier this year for a yacht. Stephen had been in on negotiations and, at his dad’s request, had gone over the team’s books and P&Ls. But he was still surprised to get a call from Jerry asking him what he’d think about starting work immediately for the Dallas Cowboys.

“I said, ‘Oh man, are you kidding me? I’m living in Fort Smith reading drilling logs, and I can come down to Dallas, and I’m single, and be a part of the Dallas Cowboys?’ ” Stephen says.

khiladi · Dec 8, 2019

Stephen Jones is the biggest patsy for Jason Garrett. He also was right alongside Lacewell and Jim Garrett in player personnel since 97.

Linehan was given complete control by Jerry in 2014 and said it explicitly that Garrett would not be touching the offense. It was Jerry that said Jason was constantly interfering with Callahan and it wasn’t fair to him, but they weren’t going to change the offense. They wanted a play caller, which Garrett wasn’t good at. This was because of Romo which is why Jerry was gushing over this Linehan-Romo relationship all off season.

Garrett won Coach if the Year in 2016 and Jerry And Stephen were throwing it our faces. After 2016, Jerry basically was alluding to the fact that winning ultimately depends on the coordinators and he saw it as redemption for his decision. Then the Dak experiment blew up and Stephen last year had to run and get Amari Cooper, giving up a first. It’s also why they went and made a trade for Bennett this year for the pass rusg

The recounting of the facts in this post are way off.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ones-cowboys-coach-garrett-safe-idUSKBN1WU08D

iceberg · Dec 8, 2019

xwalker said:
Sorry this is very long.

Note: It will give me great satisfaction if trolls fail to read this post. It will prove my point that they are not literate enough to do it. They'll claim it's not worth their time but we'll all know the truth.

For non-trolls that really don't have time to read everything, skip to the last section "Summary of Conspiracy Theory" but please come back and review the reasons for my theory.

Urban Meyer stepped down as Head Coach at Ohio State after the 2018 college season.

After the 2018 NFL season the Cowboys did NOT renew Garrett's contract which had 1 season remaining.

Stephen Jones in that time frame (early 2019) made extensive comments on the radio about Garrett. S.Jones said that Garrett had failed up to this point. S.Jones strongly implied that Garrett had been given an all-or-nothing type of mandate for 2019 (The comments are pubic record but I don't have a recording of them).

Meyer might not have been ready to take another job in 2019.

He probably didn't want to be seen as running from the ordeal that had resulted in him getting suspended for the first 3 games of the 2018 season (His special teams coach was fired for spousal abuse and Meyer was considered to have known about it for some period of time before the coach was fired).

The press conference to open training camp was very odd with regards to Garrett. Jerry basic said "no comment" although Jerry's version of no comment was to pretend he didn't hear the questions.

Just my opinion:
Garrett looked uncomfortable at that press conference and has looked uncomfortable this season in both press conferences and on the sidelines. Going for it on 4th down from the Cowboys own 20 yard line early in a game when they had the lead was signs of a Head Coach responding to pressure. It did work and modern "analytics" do indicate teams should go for it on 4th down more often; however, analytics do NOT point to an increased chance of winning by going for it in that situation, especially considering that Garrett does not strictly follow the analytics approach to 4th downs.

Trivia that might be related:

In Feb of 2018, Stephen Jones "took Linehan's side" over Garrett with regards to running the offense.

Stephen Jones basically gave Linehan "full control" over the offense. He said on the radio that it was "not fair" to not give the O-Coordinator full control. He even referenced when they made Bill Callahan the OC but gave him no control over which players were on the field and those types of issues. He said in retrospect that they should have given Callahan "full control".

Linehan & Garrett were at odds much like Garrett and Bill Callahan were at odds which caused Callahan to depart as the OL coach despite Jerry attempting to get him to stay.

The point being that Linehan "had the ear" of Stephen Jones at that time.

There is a link between Scott Linehan and Urban Meyer:

When Meyer got his first head coaching position at Bowling Green, he took trips to visit John L. Smith and Scott Linehan at Louisville, Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson at Northwestern, Bill Snyder at Kansas State, Joe Tiller and Jim Chaney at Purdue, and Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia, all of whom ran some version of the spread offense.

Background Stephen Jones as Acting GM:
Stephen Jones has taken control of all other football operations (other than the Head Coach issue) by knowing how to work around Jerry which often means making Jerry feel like things are his decision and by continuing to push the concept to the media that Jerry is still the "GM".

Obviously, the acting GM would be the person to negotiate mega-contracts and Jerry was NOT involved in the DLaw negotiations and has not been involved in the Dak & Cooper negotiations.

Stephen Jones does all of the contract negotiations now.

The Cowboys approach to the draft and free agency has followed the blueprint that Stephen Jones has often outlined in radio interviews for the past several years. It appears that the last time Jerry over-ruled Stephen was when they signed Dez to the big contract. Stephen resisted doing that and wanted to keep Dez on the Franchise Tag.

Everything since the Dez contract has followed the Stephen Jones approach. That includes cutting Dez, not drafting Paxton Lynch, not spending big in free agency. In other words they moved away from the Wildcat Oil Well Drilling approach to a more managed approach.

Summary of Conspiracy Theory:
Stephen Jones has planned to hire Urban Meyer to replace Garrett since before the 2019 season started.

Stephen Jones knew that Jerry would be resistant to just firing Garrett after the 2018 season and even in 2019 if they made the playoffs.

I am NOT saying that Stephen Jones did anything to intentionally sabotage the 2019 season; although, keeping the kicker does make me wonder about that...(actually I think they're just enamored with the kicker's long field goals AND his low salary).

It does bring up a great question:
"If you were Stephen Jones, would you sabotage the season if that was required to keep Jerry from forcing you to give Garrett a new contract?"

i honestly don't think there's a whole lot of kickers out there at this point anyway to count on. new england - do they even have one for this weekend?

outside that, i can see where you're coming from. i just hope whatever happens garrett is gone and i can at least lie to myself about having some hope for next year.

Hadenough · Dec 8, 2019

xwalker said:
It does bring up a great question:
"If you were Stephen Jones, would you sabotage the season if that was required to keep Jerry from forcing you to give Garrett a new contract?"

I dont think there would be any reason to try and sabotage this season. The schedule alone is brutal enough to weed out this teams issues.

JMPearson · Dec 8, 2019

Stephen is JG biggest supporter , Stephen is the worse thing to happen to the Cowboys, Jerry as forgotten more football than Stephen knows.

Getting rid of Dez was to protect JG, the locker room knew and Dez was 100% right.

Bringing Witten back was Stephen protecting JG,

Silver spoon kids that never have done anything on their own are bad news that is Stephen

Pantone282C · Dec 8, 2019

xwalker said:
Sorry this is very long.

Note: It will give me great satisfaction if trolls fail to read this post. It will prove my point that they are not literate enough to do it. They'll claim it's not worth their time but we'll all know the truth.

For non-trolls that really don't have time to read everything, skip to the last section "Summary of Conspiracy Theory" but please come back and review the reasons for my theory.

Urban Meyer stepped down as Head Coach at Ohio State after the 2018 college season.

After the 2018 NFL season the Cowboys did NOT renew Garrett's contract which had 1 season remaining.

Stephen Jones in that time frame (early 2019) made extensive comments on the radio about Garrett. S.Jones said that Garrett had failed up to this point. S.Jones strongly implied that Garrett had been given an all-or-nothing type of mandate for 2019 (The comments are pubic record but I don't have a recording of them).

Meyer might not have been ready to take another job in 2019.

He probably didn't want to be seen as running from the ordeal that had resulted in him getting suspended for the first 3 games of the 2018 season (His special teams coach was fired for spousal abuse and Meyer was considered to have known about it for some period of time before the coach was fired).

The press conference to open training camp was very odd with regards to Garrett. Jerry basic said "no comment" although Jerry's version of no comment was to pretend he didn't hear the questions.

Just my opinion:
Garrett looked uncomfortable at that press conference and has looked uncomfortable this season in both press conferences and on the sidelines. Going for it on 4th down from the Cowboys own 20 yard line early in a game when they had the lead was signs of a Head Coach responding to pressure. It did work and modern "analytics" do indicate teams should go for it on 4th down more often; however, analytics do NOT point to an increased chance of winning by going for it in that situation, especially considering that Garrett does not strictly follow the analytics approach to 4th downs.

Trivia that might be related:

In Feb of 2018, Stephen Jones "took Linehan's side" over Garrett with regards to running the offense.

Stephen Jones basically gave Linehan "full control" over the offense. He said on the radio that it was "not fair" to not give the O-Coordinator full control. He even referenced when they made Bill Callahan the OC but gave him no control over which players were on the field and those types of issues. He said in retrospect that they should have given Callahan "full control".

Linehan & Garrett were at odds much like Garrett and Bill Callahan were at odds which caused Callahan to depart as the OL coach despite Jerry attempting to get him to stay.

The point being that Linehan "had the ear" of Stephen Jones at that time.

There is a link between Scott Linehan and Urban Meyer:

When Meyer got his first head coaching position at Bowling Green, he took trips to visit John L. Smith and Scott Linehan at Louisville, Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson at Northwestern, Bill Snyder at Kansas State, Joe Tiller and Jim Chaney at Purdue, and Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia, all of whom ran some version of the spread offense.

Background Stephen Jones as Acting GM:
Stephen Jones has taken control of all other football operations (other than the Head Coach issue) by knowing how to work around Jerry which often means making Jerry feel like things are his decision and by continuing to push the concept to the media that Jerry is still the "GM".

Obviously, the acting GM would be the person to negotiate mega-contracts and Jerry was NOT involved in the DLaw negotiations and has not been involved in the Dak & Cooper negotiations.

Stephen Jones does all of the contract negotiations now.

The Cowboys approach to the draft and free agency has followed the blueprint that Stephen Jones has often outlined in radio interviews for the past several years. It appears that the last time Jerry over-ruled Stephen was when they signed Dez to the big contract. Stephen resisted doing that and wanted to keep Dez on the Franchise Tag.

Everything since the Dez contract has followed the Stephen Jones approach. That includes cutting Dez, not drafting Paxton Lynch, not spending big in free agency. In other words they moved away from the Wildcat Oil Well Drilling approach to a more managed approach.

Summary of Conspiracy Theory:
Stephen Jones has planned to hire Urban Meyer to replace Garrett since before the 2019 season started.

Stephen Jones knew that Jerry would be resistant to just firing Garrett after the 2018 season and even in 2019 if they made the playoffs.

I am NOT saying that Stephen Jones did anything to intentionally sabotage the 2019 season; although, keeping the kicker does make me wonder about that...(actually I think they're just enamored with the kicker's long field goals AND his low salary).

It does bring up a great question:
"If you were Stephen Jones, would you sabotage the season if that was required to keep Jerry from forcing you to give Garrett a new contract?"

Yes!

GMO415 · Dec 8, 2019

Let's use the K.I.S.S. Method (Keep it Simple Stupid) Meyer is available and Garrett will be fired. Word is the organization has reached out to Meyer. Done

Kaiser · Dec 8, 2019

LatinMind said:
The price was $140 million—or about $110 million less than what Jerry paid earlier this year for a yacht. Stephen had been in on negotiations and, at his dad’s request, had gone over the team’s books and P&Ls.

"Daddy let me look at the numbers" is a long ways away from being involved in the negotiations. He was two years out of college (in Chem E) and Jerry let him review information because he intended to give him some type of job if the deal closed. Not exactly Warren Buffett.

xwalker · Dec 8, 2019

LatinMind said:
You're reaching.

For one Stephen Jones has been the guy whos handled the contract negotiations since he started with the team. He actually was involved in the negotiations for buying the Cowboys. Yes Jerrys names are on the contracts but its been Stephen who has done the negotiating.

Meyer stepped down because he did have a congenital arachnoid cyst in his brain removed from his brain. Oct 6 2018 he went down to a knee on the sidelines vs indiana. And on a specialists advice he was told it would be better for his health to step down. Not because there is some conspiracy theory lol.

JG was under contract for one more yr, and being Jerrys choice to be the HC i think Jerry just decided to give him a chance to prove he's the guy. The Rams game removed Dallas had alot of success from 2014 to 2018. I can see why they didnt fire him, but rather wanted to see if he could go out and prove he decerved to be the guy the Jones' could trust. Just seemed like alot of pressure. You say the team was filled with alot of no name guys as coaches.

Kellen Moore might have been off the radar to fans, but apparently and this was said on all the talk shows that Moore was a hot name coach who teams were really impressed with.

I just think ur reaching with this conspiracy theory.

I don't know why you bother to attempt to read my posts.

We all know you have zero ability to understand them.

xwalker · Dec 8, 2019

rocknrobcowboy said:
2 Things... XWalker..It wasn't special teams coach that was fired for spousal abuse, It was wide receivers coach Zach Smith that was fired for spousal abuse,plus Urban Meyer is not a marriage counselor..UM has a job and only one Job is was to get hes former team Buckeyes ready to play.. Fact was there marriage was on the rocks of and on during there full marriage..

Myers in fact had on going meetings with the receiver coach about there rocky marriage and in fact,Myers & Ohio St provided school counseling.The receiver coach didn't provide full details of the extent of the abuse to Myers so its not Myers job to act upon as a marriage counselor.Conspiracy theorist and a investigation,Myers may have covered up portions of the abuse and what ever there findings of the investigation found,Meyer was suspended for 3 games..We will never know the full details of what may have happen..However, we are here today and as a life time Buckeye Fan,I truly believe Meyer would be a great fit for the Cowboys HC Position....Nuff Said..

I just included that for background in. I don't care what happened with an assistant coach.

The athletic director should have been the one investigating those issues and firing the coach.

xwalker · Dec 8, 2019

Jake said:
I love when a guy posts a wall of text then preemptively claims anyone who doesn't feel like reading it is illiterate. How about you learn how to make a point succinctly, instead?

No one owes you a reading. Get over yourself.

You can't even read 3 sentences to know that you are wrong.

Now go brush your tooth and play your bango.

xwalker · Dec 8, 2019

Aerolithe_Lion said:
Can we get a thread on your review of Dak's performance in the Bears game?

I don't have a Cat in the Hat translation that you would be able to read...

KingintheNorth · Dec 8, 2019

Guys give X a break. He's been getting his behind handed to him all year and like his idol Mickey, he's completely running out of excuses to make for the team.

His self-importance is very important to him and since this is the season of giving, let's all show some Christmas sprit and read his 23-paragraph diatribes so we can all understand what a better fan he is than all of us.

Tis the season. Merry Xmas X. Jermey Parnell rules. So does Jeff Heath and Anthony Brown.

xwalker · Dec 8, 2019

Kevinicus said:
Yes...I just fail how it applies to anything xwalker posts.

It is awesome when trolls like yourself call themselves out...

xwalker · Dec 8, 2019

JMPearson said:
Stephen is JG biggest supporter , Stephen is the worse thing to happen to the Cowboys, Jerry as forgotten more football than Stephen knows.

Getting rid of Dez was to protect JG, the locker room knew and Dez was 100% right.

Bringing Witten back was Stephen protecting JG,

Silver spoon kids that never have done anything on their own are bad news that is Stephen

You've brought a new level of cluelessness to CZ.

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