Pats show No kick returner vs chiefs

SoupcanSam · Dec 8, 2019

I dont know what the cheifs players communicated at the line but they adjusted pretty well.

Coaches on our team are just clueless. All it took was just something so simple to communicate.

Nobody panicked.

aikemirv · Dec 8, 2019

and.......what was the result of the one they had against us.

Flamma · Dec 8, 2019

aikemirv said:
and.......what was the result of the one they had against us.

I could be wrong, but I think it was a delay of game penalty. I forget exactly, but it ended poorly.

DandyDon52 · Dec 8, 2019

NE was stupid to pull that on the chiefs, they are well coached. and everyone saw that game with dallas.
you have to put someone deep.

CyberB0b · Dec 8, 2019

aikemirv said:
and.......what was the result of the one they had against us.

It took us 3 attempts to execute the punt. The 2nd attempt would have pinned them back. The 3rd attempt was an abortion.

Pape · Dec 8, 2019

That was a stupid play. Cost us 20-30 yrds when the O was having difficulty moving the ball.

Bad play call imo.

atlantacowboy · Dec 8, 2019

Pape said:
That was a stupid play. Cost us 20-30 yrds when the O was having difficulty moving the ball.

Bad play call imo.

Shouldn't have mattered. Todays game should make a good case study for lifting the limit on challenges. I think if you successfully challenge, you shouldn't lose it. You guys had a clear TD called back and a blatant PI call missed. Both would have been reversed had Belechek any challenges left.

Jerome Boger is the worst official in the NFL.

Pape · Dec 8, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
Shouldn't have mattered. Todays game should make a good case study for lifting the limit on challenges. I think if you successfully challenge, you shouldn't lose it. You guys had a clear TD called back and a blatant PI call missed. Both would have been reversed had Belechek any challenges left.

the challenge system needs to go away. the tech exists to manage all these calls in a booth in a timely manner. the NFL needs to move in that direction.

overall though, you are right. but, you know this - you have to be better than the bad calls. and right now, this team isn't good enough to do that.

Jerome Boger is the worst official in the NFL.

yes.

atlantacowboy · Dec 8, 2019

Pape said:
the challenge system needs to go away. the tech exists to manage all these calls in a booth in a timely manner. the NFL needs to move in that direction.

overall though, you are right. but, you know this - you have to be better than the bad calls. and right now, this team isn't good enough to do that.

yes.

The team is good enough to be 10-3. If Bill Belechek can't overcome bad officiating, the rest of us have no hope.

As for officiating, you can't have a system where every play is reviewed for penalties. The system has the right idea but it makes no sense that a team should lose something when it successfully corrects a call.

Pape · Dec 8, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
The team is good enough to be 10-3. If Bill Belechek can't overcome bad officiating, the rest of us have no hope.

As for officiating, you can't have a system where every play is reviewed for penalties. The system has the right idea but it makes no sense that a team should lose something when it successfully corrects a call.

Don't wanna get into replay review / challenge stuff... Maybe this offaeasoff, when or if they tweak it

Pats are treading water right now. The offense is fundamentally flawed. Can't sustain any drives. Part coaching, TB12 Part receivers, terrible tight ends and dismal o line play.

remdak · Dec 8, 2019

Pape said:
Don't wanna get into replay review / challenge stuff... Maybe this offaeasoff, when or if they tweak it

Pats are treading water right now. The offense is fundamentally flawed. Can't sustain any drives. Part coaching, TB12 Part receivers, terrible tight ends and dismal o line play.

Pats receiving/TE group is even worse than the Cowboys group last year before Cooper arrived and Gallup become a bigger part of the offense.

CPanther95 · Dec 9, 2019

You should be able to challenge as long as you have a time out available in case you lose. If the game gets slowed down too much, fix the problem with your officiating.

aikemirv · Dec 9, 2019

CyberB0b said:
It took us 3 attempts to execute the punt. The 2nd attempt would have pinned them back. The 3rd attempt was an abortion.

!st attempt theyswitched their alignment with like 5 seconds on the play clock in wind and rain.

Total mess but the conditions were completely different. KC had great weather conditions and plenty of time on the play clock.

SoupcanSam · Dec 9, 2019

aikemirv said:
!st attempt theyswitched their alignment with like 5 seconds on the play clock in wind and rain.

Total mess but the conditions were completely different. KC had great weather conditions and plenty of time on the play clock.

Dispite the conditions, I dont see why the hell everybody on the cowboys were so damn confused.

Just kick the damn ball and get down the field to down it where it lands.

Pape · Dec 9, 2019

SoupcanSam said:
Dispite the conditions, I dont see why the hell everybody on the cowboys were so damn confused.

Just kick the damn ball and get down the field to down it where it lands.

they were trying to set protections, and never had to deal with the idea of an extra rusher in punt protection. They did not know what to do. That's why there was such hesitancy on that play ... the cowboys were trying to make sure they could account for the extra rusher.

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