What do the candidates truly think of Dak?

Bad coaching has limited Dak…..not just JG the easy choice, but the Kellen Moore/Kitna connection more so.

atlantacowboy said:

I heard Cowboys want 6 years and he wants 5...........so he can cash in again. The new CBA isn't going to be a slam dunk raise for the NFL's highest paid players. The players union is going to want that money spread around more. One guy should not be able to hold a team hostage and demand 20% of the teams cap.

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Yet if your boss offered you 20% of his company's budget, are you going to say no?

And who's fault is it for you to be making so much and probably leading that company to failure? You or your boss?

SackMaster said:

Yet if your boss offered you 20% of his company's budget, are you going to say no?

And who's fault is it for you to be making so much and probably leading that company to failure? You or your boss?

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Not a great analogy since there are no fixed salary caps in business. All 32 teams have the exact same size pie. From the NFLPA's perspective, the trend toward fewer guys getting bigger checks is the exact opposite of what was intended.

These next two games will tell us all we need to know about Dak. He goes head to head with Goff and Wentz. Beat them we are in the playoffs lose then he got some explaining to do. I just cant believe he did not sign that extension before the season.

Hopefully the candidates love a 6'4" pure pocket passers and a big and physical front seven on defense.

As someone who really likes Dak and wants to see him succeed I do see the value in getting some competition in here.If that comes in the form of former Alabama now Oklahoma QB Im ok with that as well at a reasonable pick meaning no earlier than the 3rd round.Jalen brings virtually the same thing dak does but hes quicker. He is not the greatest passer in the NCAA which is why he may be available in round 3.

Daks inaccuracies while overblown by the very people in this thread that are naysayers are real and are concerning. too many times on these crossing routes has he missed them.Not by alot by enough and when you have a receiving corps that are good but known for dropping passes you cant do that.They talk about an inept offense against winning teams but fail to point out receivers dropping passes.The line not being near as good at run blocking as they once were or are a penalty at the wrong time waiting to happen, Zeke until recently not being Zeke like. A coaching staff that cant make adjustments and make poor ones when they do. while the defense and special teams continue to come up small in key moments No its all Dak!

Whats clear about this team is yes Dak is not good enough to carry it while the rest of the team under perform. We have changed out the OC last year and while statistically were improved in game management has not. Now I dont know if garrett is pulling strings in the background or this is first year growing pains. You have to know when something isn't working and make a change or when something is stick with it.

The defense is what the main problem is with this team. They have need a space eater up front and a safety in the back for sometime now. The corners have now regressed to the point that every time a pas is thrown I feel like its going to be complete and the tackling is atrocious. Special teams themselves have played a significant role in 3 of our losses at least and I cant stand watching our useless overhyped LB crew. Hot boys my back end.

If you are going to revamp something the QB position needs to be about #5 on the list after.
coaching
LB corps
secondary
kicker
if you just swap out the QB with a rookie and do nothing else your 8-8 team is going to go to 4-12. But maybe that's what some of you want. Some of you just want to see Dak elsewhere. be careful what you wish for because unless you trade for one of the franchise QB's in the league with experience you are going to waste Zeke and Cooper's time. And frankly i just don't see the teams that have these folks letting them go. LMAO on the Bridgewater pleas.

Cmac said:

Bad coaching has limited Dak…..not just JG the easy choice, but the Kellen Moore/Kitna connection more so.

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Or they made him look good. Linehan called alot of easy curls an short routes so Dak had easy completions. Since Garrett has been helping with game plan going back to last year Dak has increased his downfield passing. That's why you see daks yards per attempt go up. What hasn't changed is daks inability to score TD's due his lack of pinpoint accuracy.

What is any prospective HC going to say? "Can't handle Prescott, he's got to go. We'll need to trade the draft for a blue chip QB and that D will just have to do".

I don't see any candidate not on board, all the way on board, with Prescott being considered.

Consider what every candidate knows about the brain trust of this team. They are terrible at getting a QB and had to rely on luck to get a UDFA and 4th rounder, want to stake their career on them finding the guy?

It is better to keep him and his talent and fix the D but I do not see Riley doing that, he can't fix the one he's had at OU. His MO is just out score the other team. At least Meyer has built more complete teams. And he hasn't had great passers as his QB's, he won with Alex Smith, Tebow and JT Barrett and brought in Haskins.

mattjames2010 said:

His Alabama past is why "scouts" are biased about him going in the first three rounds. They think he's the product of a system, if that was the case, then both Mayfield and Murray also need to be questioned

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I don't follow. Why would scouts be "biased against him" because of anything that happened at Alabama?

I don't believe scouts think like that anyway. If their eyes and the scouting numbers say a guy can play, they'll put a high grade on him.

Prescott isn't going anywhere unless he wants to.

Cmac said:

Bad coaching has limited Dak…..not just JG the easy choice, but the Kellen Moore/Kitna connection more so.

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I can't tell you what they think, but I can tell you what they'll say. They'll say he's one of the top quarterbacks in football possibly destined for the Hall of Fame and he can't wait to work with the most talented quarterback in the NFL.

They'll say something in that area. It's coach speak.

Having said that Prescott isn't going anywhere unless we lose out and a college quarterback that said coach likes falls to us in the draft, and I highly doubt that.

DenCWBY said:

I think anyone applying for the HC position will have second thoughts after that very informative/cerebral interview with Jed, Jethro and Elli May. Only Jed's check book will keep them all in consideration.

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"Then one day, he was shootin up some food, and out from the ground come a bubblin" crude.

erod said:

Whoever the next coach is, they have to be ok with Dak Prescott as the quarterback.

That's got to be a big part of the interview process. Some coaches are really hard on their quarterbacks. They need a certain type to run their offense. Otherwise, they have to strip it down, which castrates them as effective playcallers.

If Dallas chooses an offensive guy, he's got to believe Dak can run what he wants. That is crucial.

That's why a defensive-minded coach is likely the ticket. Let Kellen Moore stay as OC and handle that. Get a tough defensive motivator type. LSU took that approach when Coach O hired the Saints passing coordinator for Joe Burrow.

If you go offensive, the new guy has to accept Dak. How many if them might want another option, such as a first-round pick to compete? Would Jerry tolerate that?

I wonder what Riley, Meyer, or any other candidates think about that situation.

It makes a strong case for the Ron Rivera type. He knows what it's like to have a limited passer at QB. If course, Cam could run.

That wouldn't excite me, but it makes sense.

This is an intricate hire coming.

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It should be up whoever the new coach is. There have been plenty of cases of NFL teams who already have a good quarterback, but they upgrade. Landry upgraded from Morton to Staubach. The 49ers upgraded from Steve DeBerg to Joe Montana. Dak has shown a lot of good abilities, but if the coach has someone in mind whom he likes better, I'm fine with him going that route. The important thing is, the coach should have the autonomy to run things as he sees fit, and that applies to who he wants to have as QB.

Reverend Conehead said:

It should be up whoever the new coach is. There have been plenty of cases of NFL teams who already have a good quarterback, but they upgrade. Landry upgraded from Morton to Staubach. The 49ers upgraded from Steve DeBerg to Joe Montana. Dak has shown a lot of good abilities, but if the coach has someone in mind whom he likes better, I'm fine with him going that route. The important thing is, the coach should have the autonomy to run things as he sees fit, and that applies to who he wants to have as QB.

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If Dak gets paid, he's the guy no matter what the new coach thinks.

That's why they need to just franchise tag him.

erod said:

If Dak gets paid, he's the guy no matter what the new coach thinks.

That's why they need to just franchise tag him.

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IMO they should not pay him until the new coach is on board. If they have to use the franchise tag for that, that's fine.

I think they say a talented guy who's still a bit raw, and needs some good coaching. Will he ever be super accurate, for example? After this long, probably not, but he has many strengths to build on, the chance for a new coach to mold and train Dak is very tempting...

Techsass said:

I'm ready to move away from the set "Process" type coaches. I want somebody who can adapt & figure out how to win with whatever he has on the field.

That aside say none of the candidates want Dak? What are the realistic options? I also don't want some pie in the sky dreamer directing the team.

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I think it was Bar Bryant that Bum Phillips was referring to when he said "he can take his'n and beat your'n, then he can take your'n and beat his'n". Are there any of those types out there anymore? Bilichek is the only one that immediately comes to mind.

erod said:

Whoever the next coach is, they have to be ok with Dak Prescott as the quarterback.

That's got to be a big part of the interview process. Some coaches are really hard on their quarterbacks. They need a certain type to run their offense. Otherwise, they have to strip it down, which castrates them as effective playcallers.

If Dallas chooses an offensive guy, he's got to believe Dak can run what he wants. That is crucial.

That's why a defensive-minded coach is likely the ticket. Let Kellen Moore stay as OC and handle that. Get a tough defensive motivator type. LSU took that approach when Coach O hired the Saints passing coordinator for Joe Burrow.

If you go offensive, the new guy has to accept Dak. How many if them might want another option, such as a first-round pick to compete? Would Jerry tolerate that?

I wonder what Riley, Meyer, or any other candidates think about that situation.

It makes a strong case for the Ron Rivera type. He knows what it's like to have a limited passer at QB. If course, Cam could run.

That wouldn't excite me, but it makes sense.

This is an intricate hire coming.

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Passing for what looks to be 5K yards in a season does not equate to a "limited" passer.

LandryFan said:

I think it was Bar Bryant that Bum Phillips was referring to when he said "he can take his'n and beat your'n, then he can take your'n and beat his'n". Are there any of those types out there anymore? Bilichek is the only one that immediately comes to mind.

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It was actually Don Shula Bum was referring to after a loss.

CouchCoach said:

It was actually Don Shula Bum was referring to after a loss.

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Ah, OK. was thinking Bear Bryant for some reason, but Shula also make a lot of sense. Thanks for the history lesson!