Franchise Dak and let the new coaching staff use 2020 as an audition year

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Why does Romo at all matter here? Stop the whataboutism, it's a fallacy.

Your argument is bad here. A QB getting 4,500+ passing yards is no longer some grand feat. This isn't 1983, dude. It's 2019 where we've had multiple 5,000 yard passers and had THREE of them came in a single year before. Winston has 4,000+ passing yards already as well. Should the Bucs pay him a crap load of money?

And Mahomes? Dude, stop embarrassing yourself. Mahomes had 50 TD passes to 12 INTs on 580 throws. Do you see the difference here? Not only did he have a high amount of passing yards, he had a crap load of TDs and a low amount of INTs in comparison.

When Dak has that kind of year, we'll start putting him in the conversation with Mahomes.
If 4,500+ yards was the norm passing for nowadays, why aren't a majority of QBs achieving it? It's because no matter what year it is, it's not that easy. Plus, you do have to have a good arm and be a very savvy QB. Funny how you mentioned Winston in the same breath as Dak. Why didn't you include their accuracy, INTs and passer rating for comparison? Oooh, that's right, it doesn't fit your narrative/agenda. And, yes, Romo is valid since you've always defended him compared to Dak and his/their accomplishments. Romo only disappeared 3 years ago, so it wasn't that long ago. As for Mahomes, he's a freak who had the right talent around him last year. Must be nice to have a pretty good Oline, excellent weapons at RB & WRs, plus a pretty good Defense and one of the best head coaches in the league. Now, compare that to what Dak has. Anyone can easily see why it's a big deal that Dak is within 900 yards of reaching the 5K passing yards mark which only a handful have accomplished that past several decades. Appreciate.
 

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Exactly,
the fact that we're talking about year 5 of a guy's career as his proposed "final audition" tells me we have an issue bigger than anyone wants to admit.

if we're not sure he's the guy at this point--he's not the guy.
Period.
End of story.
YOU are not sure. Jerry and a majority of Cowboys fans not on this website agree Dak is the guy.

Deal with it.
 

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Nothing to lose in getting another year to evaluate before committing long term. He's looking for greater than franchise tag money anyway.

Absolutely, let the bus driver keep driving the short bus and bring in an upgrade via the draft. It’s never a guarantee that we find one quickly, but the status quo is Mediocrity Personified and that doesn’t command 35 to 40 million and guaranteed money.
 

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YOU are not sure. Jerry and a majority of Cowboys fans not on this website agree Dak is the guy.

Deal with it.

Regarding the bold--frigging hilarious.

I don't even have to make counterpoints against you anymore.
I just highlight your own statements and then sit back and laugh. What's sad is, you honestly thought that was a great point right there.

:lmao:
 

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If 4,500+ yards was the norm passing for nowadays, why aren't a majority of QBs achieving it? It's because no matter what year it is, it's not that easy. Plus, you do have to have a good arm and be a very savvy QB. Funny how you mentioned Winston in the same breath as Dak. Why didn't you include their accuracy, INTs and passer rating for comparison? Oooh, that's right, it doesn't fit your narrative/agenda. And, yes, Romo is valid since you've always defended him compared to Dak and his/their accomplishments. Romo only disappeared 3 years ago, so it wasn't that long ago. As for Mahomes, he's a freak who had the right talent around him last year. Must be nice to have a pretty good Oline, excellent weapons at RB & WRs, plus a pretty good Defense and one of the best head coaches in the league. Now, compare that to what Dak has. Anyone can easily see why it's a big deal that Dak is within 900 yards of reaching the 5K passing yards mark which only a handful have accomplished that past several decades. Appreciate.

I didn't say it was the "norm", I said it wasn't a feat anymore. Here are top passing yards the past few years

2018 - TWO 5,000 yard passers, 3 others with 4,500+ yards passing
2017 - 2 4,500+ yard passers
2016 - 1 5,000 yard passer, 2 4,500+ yard passers
2015 - 5 4,500 yard passers
2014 - 5 4,500 yard passers

....do you see where I'm going with this? And I didn't include Winston's INTs because YOU are specifically using passing yards as a reason to give Prescott big money. Prescott isn't as bad as Winston, but he sure as hell isn't doing anything special here.
 

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I didn't say it was the "norm", I said it wasn't a feat anymore. Here are top passing yards the past few years

2018 - TWO 5,000 yard passers, 3 others with 4,500+ yards passing
2017 - 2 4,500+ yard passers
2016 - 1 5,000 yard passer, 2 4,500+ yard passers
2015 - 5 4,500 yard passers
2014 - 5 4,500 yard passers

....do you see where I'm going with this? And I didn't include Winston's INTs because YOU are specifically using passing yards as a reason to give Prescott big money. Prescott isn't as bad as Winston, but he sure as hell isn't doing anything special here.
You can complain all you want. Bottom line, Dak is getting paid big time.
 

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Regarding the bold--frigging hilarious.

I don't even have to make counterpoints against you anymore.
I just highlight your own statements and then sit back and laugh. What's sad is, you honestly thought that was a great point right there.

:lmao:
The truth hurts. Your complaining doesn't matter. Dak is getting paid big very soon.
 

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lol at "franchise tag Dak"

A 3x NFL top 100 player that started 4 years for basically free at the #1 most valuable position is going to sign a 1 year tag.......... :lmao:


Yeah his agent will never in a million years allow that to happen. That's almost as funny as the Cowboys front office expecting 4x all-pro Zack Martin to play on his 5th year option
 

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....he's getting those yards because he's throwing 40+ a game.

And Dak's average completion is 8.4...good for 3rd in the NFL...

So no it is not "because he is throwing 40+ a game." And Dak is still top 10 in the NFL via QB Rating...

Try again.

EDIT: He is also top 10 in completion percentage too...
 

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Franchise Dak and let the new coaching staff use 2020 as an audition year and then decide on his future.
He'll get 100M per if they hire a legit NFL Head Coach and Dak has a full season with that coaching staff.
 

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Proof is in the pudding. Garrett is terrible. Wont be long now.

You’ve mentioned your opinion on the topic. Regardless, I’m only responsible for the things I’ve actually said and not for what people want to pretend I’ve said. As you say, the proof is in the pudding.
 

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Franchise Dak and let the new coaching staff use 2020 as an audition year and then decide on his future.

Thats where I am at now. Bring in new HC and let them Franchise Dak for at least 1 year (maybe 2) to see if its good fit.
 

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You’ve mentioned your opinion on the topic. Regardless, I’m only responsible for the things I’ve actually said and not for what people want to pretend I’ve said. As you say, the proof is in the pudding.

You are the biggest Garrett defender/apologist/supporter/fan ever on this site and anywhere for that matter. At the end of the day, when Garretts complete failure culminates in his firing, you have to accept accountability.

However, knowing you, you will insult everyone else around you and fail to man up and take responsibility for the 10 years of wrong nonsense you defaced this board with. All the posters that you said knew nothing about football, only to have the facts reveal that YOU are the one that is found wanting.

Ill give you an opportunity here to admit that you were dead wrong about Garrett:

WAITING!!!!!!!
 

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Franchise Dak and let the new coaching staff use 2020 as an audition year and then decide on his future.

What? So he basically has to win the super bowl by himself. Since you guys want him to be prime Aaron Rogers.
 

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And Dak's average completion is 8.4...good for 3rd in the NFL...

So no it is not "because he is throwing 40+ a game." And Dak is still top 10 in the NFL via QB Rating...

Try again.

EDIT: He is also top 10 in completion percentage too...

1. His average is jumping due to garbage time, go look at his situational stats

http://www.nfl.com/player/dakprescott/2555260/situationalstats

Attempts 1-20 average from 6.2 to 7.9
First half it is 7.6 to second half 9.1

He's also been mediocre when trailing in games.

2. Who cares? Cousins and Carr are both top 5 along with Matt Ryan. It means absolutely nothing.
 

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You are the biggest Garrett defender/apologist/supporter/fan ever on this site and anywhere for that matter. At the end of the day, when Garretts complete failure culminates in his firing, you have to accept accountability.

However, knowing you, you will insult everyone else around you and fail to man up and take responsibility for the 10 years of wrong nonsense you defaced this board with. All the posters that you said knew nothing about football, only to have the facts reveal that YOU are the one that is found wanting.

Ill give you an opportunity here to admit that you were dead wrong about Garrett:

WAITING!!!!!!!

This is too dumb for you to have posted seriously. Jason Garrett has been a good coach. I’m far from the only person who recognizes that. You not liking him while that’s happened is irrelevant.

If and when he gets fired for not delivering in a contract year, we’ll move on. That’s life in the NFL. You can wait all you like.
 
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