What will Urban Cowboys look like?

erod

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I'm increasingly convinced that Jerry is going to hire Urban Meyer. It makes sense. I don't think Lincoln Riley would want any part of this. I wish they'd look at Matt Rhule, but I don't think they are. Established head coaches like Sean Payton would want complete control.

Meyer has a bevy of ready former assistants out of work right now, and there's a good chance he'll retain many of the existing coaches like Kellen Moore. I think Jerry wants that. I don't expect Meyer to be here long - he never is - and Jerry wants in-house options sooner than later. In fact, I think Jerry wants this to be over quickly, just like he did with Parcells.

"Please fix this and leave." That seems to be the corner Jerry has painted himself into. Again.

Meyer is a CEO-approach coach like Garrett in that he won't call plays. He does have a big personality like Jimmy, who didn't call plays either, and he'll rule with intimidation and force, which is fine in general.

But what kind of team are we really going to have under Meyer?

He is without scruples. He had 40 players get arrested while he was at Florida. He ignored violent and repeated spousal abuse committed by one of his assistants at Ohio State without saying a word. He tolerated multiple incidents by Zeke, which became so intense that Joey Bosa had to change roommates. It's a common theme everywhere he goes. His programs are like circus freak shows, and it'll be harder to contain these "secrets" in the NFL than it was in college back then.

However, he does win, by whatever means necessary. So there is that. I expect he'll do that here more consistently, and he's a big enough presence to command attention from players. He'll take no gruff from Jerry on the football decision front. I like that, and I don't think he'll spend time blowing sunshine up his players backsides like Garrett and Jerry do constantly. More to like.

But there's the other ugly side, I fear.

Meyer wouldn't blink twice about bringing in Greg Hardy. He'd do it over and over if he thought he could win. He doesn't care about "right kind of guy" whatsoever, as long as the production on the field is there. Doesn't care about reputation or image the team projects. He cares about winning.

Imagine a roster full of Burfict, Beckham, AB, Incognito, Hardy, and Tyreek types.

I don't expect players like Amari Cooper and Byron Jones to respond well to him. Not sure about Dak or Leighton. I wonder what Zeke thinks? I do think it would be good for a few players who need a swift kick in their derriere.

I'll give it this. It will be VERY different than the past 10 years. For everybody. Including Jerry.

That is, in the very least, interesting to ponder.
 

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you're going to see a whole new look at qb, whether that's Dak or someone else that can do the job. A run game that has guys motioning and using misdirection. Offense that plays with calm collected focus. A defense that plays with focused urgency. Interior DL that disrupts the pocket. DBs that play the ball. Tackles and pass breakups, both of which we're weak at. Accountability, whether your the QB or LB, if you're holding us back you come off the field and it becomes next man up.

I'm just making up stuff, I don't care who it is as long as most of the above happens.
 

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If you thought the Cowboys were a circus under Garrett with all of the suspensions

Whew boy, you haven’t seen anything yet with Urban at the helm

Goodell must be salivating at all of the punishment he’s going to dole out
 

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I think both Carolina and Washington are also interesting opportunities. Haskins would be a benefit to coach up and Carolina may not be much farther away from contention than you guys, they have some serious talent.

May point is I don’t think that if Urban chooses the NFL next year that it’s an automatic he’s going to Dallas
 

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Fewer stupid mistakes. Better in-game decisions and adjustments. That alone gets us to 10-11 wins. Add a beefier DL that can stop the run and a better scheme for our LBs and he could easily win 12-13 games year 1. He took a 6-7 OSU team to 12-0 his first year there. Change happens fast.............and oh yeah, he knows what to do with Zeke.
 

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Amongst all of the hidden agenda fluff..I do believe you made a decent point that's been tossed around here.

I would not be one bit surprised if Urban retained Kellen Moore.

I'm in the camp that believes he his running with what's given to him. Hit touch up and flair mixed in with Meyers style might actually jive really well. Like jalapeños and strawberry jelly.
 

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I'm increasingly convinced that Jerry is going to hire Urban Meyer. It makes sense. I don't think Lincoln Riley would want any part of this. I wish they'd look at Matt Rhule, but I don't think they are. Established head coaches like Sean Payton would want complete control.

Meyer has a bevy of ready former assistants out of work right now, and there's a good chance he'll retain many of the existing coaches like Kellen Moore. I think Jerry wants that. I don't expect Meyer to be here long - he never is - and Jerry wants in-house options sooner than later. In fact, I think Jerry wants this to be over quickly, just like he did with Parcells.

"Please fix this and leave." That seems to be the corner Jerry has painted himself into. Again.

Meyer is a CEO-approach coach like Garrett in that he won't call plays. He does have a big personality like Jimmy, who didn't call plays either, and he'll rule with intimidation and force, which is fine in general.

But what kind of team are we really going to have under Meyer?

He is without scruples. He had 40 players get arrested while he was at Florida. He ignored violent and repeated spousal abuse committed by one of his assistants at Ohio State without saying a word. He tolerated multiple incidents by Zeke, which became so intense that Joey Bosa had to change roommates. It's a common theme everywhere he goes. His programs are like circus freak shows, and it'll be harder to contain these "secrets" in the NFL than it was in college back then.

However, he does win, by whatever means necessary. So there is that. I expect he'll do that here more consistently, and he's a big enough presence to command attention from players. He'll take no gruff from Jerry on the football decision front. I like that, and I don't think he'll spend time blowing sunshine up his players backsides like Garrett and Jerry do constantly. More to like.

But there's the other ugly side, I fear.

Meyer wouldn't blink twice about bringing in Greg Hardy. He'd do it over and over if he thought he could win. He doesn't care about "right kind of guy" whatsoever, as long as the production on the field is there. Doesn't care about reputation or image the team projects. He cares about winning.

Imagine a roster full of Burfict, Beckham, AB, Incognito, Hardy, and Tyreek types.

I don't expect players like Amari Cooper and Byron Jones to respond well to him. Not sure about Dak or Leighton. I wonder what Zeke thinks? I do think it would be good for a few players who need a swift kick in their derriere.

I'll give it this. It will be VERY different than the past 10 years. For everybody. Including Jerry.

That is, in the very least, interesting to ponder.
I dont want a choir boy as HC. AT ALL. RKG hasnt worked for 10 years, why would it now? You have a jaded opinon of him and everyone here can see it as you bring up the DV part of his tenure in every single post and thread about Meyer. Do i want someone here who is a good guy with no winning mentality? Or do I want someone here who will bring a lombardi back? Hmmmmm. Lets all ponder that. Funny thing about those knuckleheads you mentioned. No one cares in the media what they do if we are winning. If Meyer comes in and we win a SB trophy. No one will care if Zeke was in a nightclub punching someone out because the media will be talking about the SB.
 

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Urban Meyer is a God among coaches. For those of you not familiar with him I suggest you watch the video I attached. The guy is nothing like the weak minded and totally fake Jason Garrett. I love Jason Garrett as a man of character, but his flaws have enabled him to take on a chameleon role with the cowboys which is unflattering. What I mean by that is Garrett will be the tough guy when the camera's are rolling throwing out fake F bomb after F bomb, only to smile like chester cheetah and say all the canned and processed things during his idiotic Jason Garrett shows. The guy is complete phony as a coach but much like Jerry a great salesman of himself!

Watch Urban in this video and you will see what a real coach looks like and why if we can land him we would be stupid not to.
 

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I'm increasingly convinced that Jerry is going to hire Urban Meyer. It makes sense. I don't think Lincoln Riley would want any part of this. I wish they'd look at Matt Rhule, but I don't think they are. Established head coaches like Sean Payton would want complete control.

Meyer has a bevy of ready former assistants out of work right now, and there's a good chance he'll retain many of the existing coaches like Kellen Moore. I think Jerry wants that. I don't expect Meyer to be here long - he never is - and Jerry wants in-house options sooner than later. In fact, I think Jerry wants this to be over quickly, just like he did with Parcells.

"Please fix this and leave." That seems to be the corner Jerry has painted himself into. Again.

Meyer is a CEO-approach coach like Garrett in that he won't call plays. He does have a big personality like Jimmy, who didn't call plays either, and he'll rule with intimidation and force, which is fine in general.

But what kind of team are we really going to have under Meyer?

He is without scruples. He had 40 players get arrested while he was at Florida. He ignored violent and repeated spousal abuse committed by one of his assistants at Ohio State without saying a word. He tolerated multiple incidents by Zeke, which became so intense that Joey Bosa had to change roommates. It's a common theme everywhere he goes. His programs are like circus freak shows, and it'll be harder to contain these "secrets" in the NFL than it was in college back then.

However, he does win, by whatever means necessary. So there is that. I expect he'll do that here more consistently, and he's a big enough presence to command attention from players. He'll take no gruff from Jerry on the football decision front. I like that, and I don't think he'll spend time blowing sunshine up his players backsides like Garrett and Jerry do constantly. More to like.

But there's the other ugly side, I fear.

Meyer wouldn't blink twice about bringing in Greg Hardy. He'd do it over and over if he thought he could win. He doesn't care about "right kind of guy" whatsoever, as long as the production on the field is there. Doesn't care about reputation or image the team projects. He cares about winning.

Imagine a roster full of Burfict, Beckham, AB, Incognito, Hardy, and Tyreek types.

I don't expect players like Amari Cooper and Byron Jones to respond well to him. Not sure about Dak or Leighton. I wonder what Zeke thinks? I do think it would be good for a few players who need a swift kick in their derriere.

I'll give it this. It will be VERY different than the past 10 years. For everybody. Including Jerry.

That is, in the very least, interesting to ponder.
And on top of everything. Him getting Zeke back into Zeke shape and mindset will be beneficial for the entire team. Zeke has taken on the timid approach of Garrett. That is the biggest difference from 2016 until now.
 

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I'm increasingly convinced that Jerry is going to hire Urban Meyer. It makes sense. I don't think Lincoln Riley would want any part of this. I wish they'd look at Matt Rhule, but I don't think they are. Established head coaches like Sean Payton would want complete control.

Meyer has a bevy of ready former assistants out of work right now, and there's a good chance he'll retain many of the existing coaches like Kellen Moore. I think Jerry wants that. I don't expect Meyer to be here long - he never is - and Jerry wants in-house options sooner than later. In fact, I think Jerry wants this to be over quickly, just like he did with Parcells.

"Please fix this and leave." That seems to be the corner Jerry has painted himself into. Again.

Meyer is a CEO-approach coach like Garrett in that he won't call plays. He does have a big personality like Jimmy, who didn't call plays either, and he'll rule with intimidation and force, which is fine in general.

But what kind of team are we really going to have under Meyer?

He is without scruples. He had 40 players get arrested while he was at Florida. He ignored violent and repeated spousal abuse committed by one of his assistants at Ohio State without saying a word. He tolerated multiple incidents by Zeke, which became so intense that Joey Bosa had to change roommates. It's a common theme everywhere he goes. His programs are like circus freak shows, and it'll be harder to contain these "secrets" in the NFL than it was in college back then.

However, he does win, by whatever means necessary. So there is that. I expect he'll do that here more consistently, and he's a big enough presence to command attention from players. He'll take no gruff from Jerry on the football decision front. I like that, and I don't think he'll spend time blowing sunshine up his players backsides like Garrett and Jerry do constantly. More to like.

But there's the other ugly side, I fear.

Meyer wouldn't blink twice about bringing in Greg Hardy. He'd do it over and over if he thought he could win. He doesn't care about "right kind of guy" whatsoever, as long as the production on the field is there. Doesn't care about reputation or image the team projects. He cares about winning.

Imagine a roster full of Burfict, Beckham, AB, Incognito, Hardy, and Tyreek types.

I don't expect players like Amari Cooper and Byron Jones to respond well to him. Not sure about Dak or Leighton. I wonder what Zeke thinks? I do think it would be good for a few players who need a swift kick in their derriere.

I'll give it this. It will be VERY different than the past 10 years. For everybody. Including Jerry.

That is, in the very least, interesting to ponder.
they're all without scrouples.
joe pa once said the reason he wasnt ready to retire is he didnt want to leave the game to coaches like Barry Switzer and Jimmy Johnson.......and look what was occuring at his program under his watch regarding his def coord.
THEY ALL CHEAT.
THEY ALL ARE WITHOUT SCROUPLES.
 

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you're going to see a whole new look at qb, whether that's Dak or someone else that can do the job. A run game that has guys motioning and using misdirection. Offense that plays with calm collected focus. A defense that plays with focused urgency. Interior DL that disrupts the pocket. DBs that play the ball. Tackles and pass breakups, both of which we're weak at. Accountability, whether your the QB or LB, if you're holding us back you come off the field and it becomes next man up.

I'm just making up stuff, I don't care who it is as long as most of the above happens.
He's never produced an NFL quarterback of note other than Alex Smith at Utah.
 
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