Is it fair to say that Meyer is in the lead

MikeB80 · Dec 10, 2019

Hiring meyer would be sad and pathetic. The guy has all kinds of problems behind him with staff and players and is looking for a big payday so he says on TV he would coach here and now because of that he is going to be the coach here?

This will be worse than switzer.

This league is filled with qualified guys who have long assistant coaching resumes who along with a real GM could build a qualified staff and rebuild this team but we are going to get the guy who said on TV he would love to coach Dak.

I am 100% of the mindset this whole thing should be torn down with the idea of building it back up within three years. With the amount of free agents especially on Defense, the huge amount of cap space, the aging quickly offensive line this is a team that should be rebuilt.

2014 was the end result of rebuilding the team that started in 2011. Then romo-murray-dez were essentially lost and 15 was lost...then 16 was act two, one last shot with a new star in Zeke.

2018 was the result of the retooling that started in 16, new secondary, new qb, new wr. Now it seems to be the end of this retooling.

I think this is the perfect time to step back and say ok we have to rebuild the defense anyway so lets just do the whole thing. I think Dak should be franchised and another qb drafted or signed who can start also....I don't think there is anyway you can sign Cooper in this situation, Big time number 1 wr never make it to super bowls and if they do like jones they do not win. Look at the past decade. It's always the teams that play defense-special teams and run the ball. Always.

This team should hire someone and take the buffalo or sf approach. Find a defensive coach, let him hire his own staff and rebuild this team around a new defense where you spend your resources and get back to physical football on offense.

Having said all that I know exactly what Jerry is going to do. He is going to hire the guy who said on tv he would coach here and would love to coach Dak. thats meyer already giving in to Jerry and Stephen. Then he is going to sign dak and cooper to huge contracts and try to plugin some guys to this same defense next year and make a run. I have no idea who the defensive coordinator will be but he will run this defense because jerry will tell him to.

and in the end in a few years the fans will be complaining about the same things they are today with no results. The organization needs to have the guts to tear it down to fix it the right way.

JoeKing · Dec 10, 2019

phildadon86 said:
Stephen is the one handling this. And even if he isnt. Who are you to say Jerry wont do something? The mob is at the gates right now and Jerry knows he has little time left. He did it with Parcells. Dont be surprised if he does it again.

lol, the mob at the gate is a delusion in your head.

atlantacowboy · Dec 10, 2019

AmariChill said:
1. What makes you think that? Meyer nor anyone from the FO has said anything to speculate us into believing he is the front runner.

2. No. Jerry will not let him have that much power.

3. The same ones we got now, unfortunately. You really think Jerry is going to clean sweep this coaching staff and let the new HC have complete control?

If 2 and 3 are true, then Meyer isn't coming. Jerry is going to have to go to an arrangement more akin to the one he had with Parcels if he hopes to land anyone like Meyer. Personally, I think he will b/c, otherwise, he might as well keep Garret.

MysteryIceGuro · Dec 10, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
If 2 and 3 are true, then Meyer isn't coming. Jerry is going to have to go to an arrangement more akin to the one he had with Parcels if he hopes to land anyone like Meyer. Personally, I think he will b/c, otherwise, he might as well keep Garret.

That's why I hope Jerry can keep his trap closed long enough during the coaching negotiations.

fairviewfarmer · Dec 10, 2019

stasheroo said:
Yes, my opinion is that there is already an agreement in principle

I'd think so. The Joneses might suggest a coach or two to retain, but I think the final decisions will be his.

Strong and Addazio were fired from head coaching jobs and are conveniently available. And Chris Ash was let go by Rutgers as well, and he's already in Texas. The timing of former coaches being available is very convenient.

Ash would be a terrible asst. in my opinion.

RS12 · Dec 10, 2019

Depends on how much control he wants. Why would he stain his winning everywhere legacy by having assistants and draft picks rammed down his throat.

Stash · Dec 10, 2019

fairviewfarmer said:
Ash would be a terrible asst. in my opinion.

That's cool. I admit to not knowing much about him other than that he's worked with Meyer and is available.

I'm interested in Ed Warriner, his former offensive line coach. He seems like the kind of tough, hard-nosed guy that our line and running game could really use. And he has a pretty good track record at top schools.

Verdict · Dec 10, 2019

stasheroo said:
Yes, my opinion is that there is already an agreement in principle

I'd think so. The Joneses might suggest a coach or two to retain, but I think the final decisions will be his.

Strong and Addazio were fired from head coaching jobs and are conveniently available. And Chris Ash was let go by Rutgers as well, and he's already in Texas. The timing of former coaches being available is very convenient.

Good post Stash and good info.

ShiningStar · Dec 10, 2019

actually its not., maybe some fans became fans yesterday or something, but does anyone think Jerry is going to hire and keep someone who draws more attention than himself?

id like to be wrong, but im htinking Meyer is yet another pipe dream for believers

BatteryPowered · Dec 10, 2019

ShiningStar said:
actually its not., maybe some fans became fans yesterday or something, but does anyone think Jerry is going to hire and keep someone who draws more attention than himself?

id like to be wrong, but im htinking Meyer is yet another pipe dream for believers

You may be right. I think (maybe hope) that someone...maybe Stephen...will sit down with Jerry and explain that even if he brings in a big name coach, cedes staff power and they win it all, it is still Jerry Jones that identified and assembled the talent on a championship team and who had the insight to hire a coach with the ability to get the most from that talent. They can leave out the part about him being drug, kicking and screaming, to the point of view.

quickccc · Dec 10, 2019

CowboyChris said:
Is it fair to say that Meyer is in the lead, to becoming our next HC?

More mere speculation than factual reports per Jane Slater, i think its' more media best bet scenario, I believe jerry in that no official contact has been made despite Slater reports, I do think the two parties will convene post season and he will be a strong candidate and likely even in the lead because;
- he seemed to drop a dime hint on possible interest in Cowboys HC job,
- he is well familiar with one of our stars in Zeke,
- he's a proven winner in the major college ranks,
- there are no buyout contract situations, no trade compensations attached to him
- and his offensive mind and the way he has developed QBs is well thought of
- but past character baggage, his pending health, and contractual and authority terms will have to be placed in order.

2nd question - If he is hired, will he be able to hire his own staff?

Yes, I really believe so.
I believe 90% of the coaching staff will be his own hand picked staff and they will be coaches with NFL experience and expertise.
I truly believe you just have to have the very best qualified top NFL assistants on board and around you to make it a much more sturdy transition adjustment in the NFL ranks.
(I sure hope no one is expecting a clean sweep that includes an all ex-college OSU/Florida coaches staff to come in)

and I’ve always said and continue to say that one of the biggest and more important elements of any HC is having a consistent, knowledgeable source of how to get/acquire the better, top assistants around the NFL circles.
And even the rare successful winning college to NFL coaches have learn to done that:
- Jim Harbaugh had NFL coaching experience onboard with Niners ,(rathman,solari, greg roman, john Morton, etc)
- Pete Carroll, was already well diversed among NFL ranks with his lengthy NFL resume (bills, minny, jets, niners, Pats)
- Cards’ Clint Klingsbury has already loaded up with experience coaches vance jospeph, tom clements,steve heiden, saxon, Roberson, etc.)

But the questions of it may be what leftover(s) from Garrett staff are warranted and worth considering keeping around. (kitna? .. columbo ?.. moore?... Sandray Lai? )
- The present training -strengthening staff will and should remain, it’s well known as probably the best in the entire NFL, and you don’t risk tampering with that.

3rd and last question - who might you see as some of his assistants?
Defensive Coordinator:
Dan Quinn
Ron Rivera
Jack Del Rio
Gregg Williams
Kris Richard
Steve Wilks

Offense:
Kellen Moore – OC
Marc Columbo – OL
Jon Kitna -QB
RB ?
TE ?
WR ?

Special teams:
Well experience/Best known sp coach in the NFL ranks

- Note: Gotta get Marinelli outta here immediately ! ..and stay away from Todd Haley

Creeper · Dec 10, 2019

I'd like to see Jerry follow through and fire Garrett first. Otherwise speculation about a new head coach is pointless. I firmly believe this decision is about Jerry and what he wants as far as being involved in the team first. If he concludes that any new candidates will try to shut him out of team management, he will stick with Garrett. That is my opinion and Jerry will have to convince me I am wrong.

G2 · Dec 10, 2019

We like our guys

quickccc · Dec 10, 2019

I’m sure there will be plenty of clips from offensive work of Meyer and Lincoln Riley but if those two heralded candidates get out of the picture, I wouldn’t rule out Vikes OC Stephan Stefanski if comes down to it .(believes in run game, uses RBs in pass game, did wonders for Kirk Cousin, and believes in pushing vertical pass downfield)

From my hopeful Cowboys perspective on the next HC (and i'm predicting he'll offensive oriented)
1) - Offensive creativity and sustain development with Dak. I want the HC guy that best simulates pre-snap motion, mis-directions, multi-formations and designs. Very similar to Niners or Rams offense.
- Believes in pushing ball downfield in pass game, getting receivers on the run, and great mixture balance of both RPO’s and QB under the center snaps-play action

2) I want the HC guy that can:
- best rejuvenate zeke back to that 2016 version, and get this run game back to a much more quick hitter into hole splash runs, creativity with RB in pass game
- Heavily involves run /doesn’t abandon the run.

kskboys · Dec 10, 2019

I have no idea, but I hope so.

Asklesko · Dec 10, 2019

No. Meyer is just fan fantasy right now. Smart money says it's a non-big name who will carry out Jerry's orders.

75boyz · Dec 10, 2019

MikeB80 said:
Hiring meyer would be sad and pathetic. The guy has all kinds of problems behind him with staff and players and is looking for a big payday so he says on TV he would coach here and now because of that he is going to be the coach here?

This will be worse than switzer.

This league is filled with qualified guys who have long assistant coaching resumes who along with a real GM could build a qualified staff and rebuild this team but we are going to get the guy who said on TV he would love to coach Dak.

I am 100% of the mindset this whole thing should be torn down with the idea of building it back up within three years. With the amount of free agents especially on Defense, the huge amount of cap space, the aging quickly offensive line this is a team that should be rebuilt.

2014 was the end result of rebuilding the team that started in 2011. Then romo-murray-dez were essentially lost and 15 was lost...then 16 was act two, one last shot with a new star in Zeke.

2018 was the result of the retooling that started in 16, new secondary, new qb, new wr. Now it seems to be the end of this retooling.

I think this is the perfect time to step back and say ok we have to rebuild the defense anyway so lets just do the whole thing. I think Dak should be franchised and another qb drafted or signed who can start also....I don't think there is anyway you can sign Cooper in this situation, Big time number 1 wr never make it to super bowls and if they do like jones they do not win. Look at the past decade. It's always the teams that play defense-special teams and run the ball. Always.

This team should hire someone and take the buffalo or sf approach. Find a defensive coach, let him hire his own staff and rebuild this team around a new defense where you spend your resources and get back to physical football on offense.

Having said all that I know exactly what Jerry is going to do. He is going to hire the guy who said on tv he would coach here and would love to coach Dak. thats meyer already giving in to Jerry and Stephen. Then he is going to sign dak and cooper to huge contracts and try to plugin some guys to this same defense next year and make a run. I have no idea who the defensive coordinator will be but he will run this defense because jerry will tell him to.

and in the end in a few years the fans will be complaining about the same things they are today with no results. The organization needs to have the guts to tear it down to fix it the right way.

Really nice insightful post. Elements of speculative reasoning but all based on empirical historical context with regards to the character of both Jerry and Meyer’s past.

Enjoyed the year to year breakdown/opinions you provided and agreed in principle on almost all.

I was totally in line with your reason/logic concerning pending contracts and free agents as well.

Im not a number 4 guy so if you totally removed him from this speculation I would be even more on board.

Overall though, a really well thought out post bro. I just wish the owner would follow your suggested plan.

And possibly mention your own specific choice as HC as the viable alternative.

But again, excellent post.

Fletch · Dec 10, 2019

jazzcat22 said:
Will they put in a time clock to punch?

#CampoTime

Pokeness · Dec 10, 2019

atlantacowboy said:
If 2 and 3 are true, then Meyer isn't coming. Jerry is going to have to go to an arrangement more akin to the one he had with Parcels if he hopes to land anyone like Meyer. Personally, I think he will b/c, otherwise, he might as well keep Garret.

While you say he might as well keep Garrett, Jerry is a master at knowing when he is about to lose his fanbase (ticket and merchandise sales), and he will hire another puppet, put on a spin cycle (just like he did when he said Garrett would have say in all football matters), keep the fanbase and then proceed to pull the strings on his new puppet.

CowboyChris · Dec 10, 2019

stasheroo said:
Yes, my opinion is that there is already an agreement in principle

I'd think so. The Joneses might suggest a coach or two to retain, but I think the final decisions will be his.

Strong and Addazio were fired from head coaching jobs and are conveniently available. And Chris Ash was let go by Rutgers as well, and he's already in Texas. The timing of former coaches being available is very convenient.

nice post, that's what i was looking for, of course all this is premature, but I can't see how Garrett isn't gone at the end of the year, cause even if we make the playoffs, we will be laughed out of them.

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