In a year with high expectations did anything improve

And the other thing is Zeke's conditioning. Ick. It's terrible. Desperately need Urban Meyer to maximize his skills.

My blood pressure improved after I stopped caring.

PAPPYDOG said:

I sit and wonder what the heck you're going to post when come next season Dak is still well "Deer in the headlights" Dak against good teams?
I'm sure you will find some new lame excuses or false dreams to sell us....

Click to expand...

The truth and facts. Unlike some, that's all I'm interested in. I'm never blinded by my love/hate of a player. Even keel.

After the stuff you posted about Dak, you should be too embarrassed to show your face in here. You've been wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. I mean, you haven't been right about pretty much anything, along w/ a complete inability to assess a player, not to mention even understanding the way a poster on here posts. It's like, when you reply to me, you're not even bright enough to read what I write, just spew down the same ol' same ol'. Problem is, what you're doing is so pathetic, it's really hard not to feel sorry for you. I'll try though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dak looked good early but has had a bad second half so far.

Jarwin still looks good in limited snaps. I like him as the starter.

Tony Pollard looks like a good pick.

Gallup looks like he’s developing into a big time WR.

Quinn was a great trade.

Everything else has been bad.

Improved for the first 3 games. Wow, what a take off this year. Was good times. Something happened along the way with this team. Not sure what. Just because teams we play have a winning record shouldn’t matter. Yes they are better teams but we looked good. Injuries are one thing. But they lost confidence and our HC and staff did nothing to keep them even and focused. Lame duck coach had thrown in the towel and players have picked up on it. No leadership and I blame the FO.

Blackrain said:

I think Dak showed the biggest improvement this year followed by Micheal Gallup and Collins .
Also Robert Quinn was a bright spot and Jason Witten after a year off was still Jason Witten

That said The defense regressed horrifically almost unbelievable what happened to our tackling .

The Oline is certainly not the dominant run blocking unit it once was. Zeke isnt bad but after watching Barkley the other night Zekes conditioning is not what I was expecting for an elite RB

Special teams has never been a strong point but this year is a new low

The ineptness of our coaching staff has only been outdone buy our kicking game What do you guys have ??

Click to expand...

Id put Frederick at the top. Coming back and returning close to pre illness is tops for me.
Id put Dak and Collins at a tie. Collins was bad in 2018.
Gallup next
Jarwin after
And Connor Williams here.

glimmerman said:

Improved for the first 3 games. Wow, what a take off this year. Was good times. Something happened along the way with this team. Not sure what. Just because teams we play have a winning record shouldn’t matter. Yes they are better teams but we looked good. Injuries are one thing. But they lost confidence and our HC and staff did nothing to keep them even and focused. Lame duck coach had thrown in the towel and players have picked up on it. No leadership and I blame the FO.

Click to expand...

When we face a team lacking talent, our talent dominates. However, when we face a team w/ talent, they generally easily outscheme us.

We're seeing constant replays of the Rams playoff game.

"In a year with high expectations did anything improve"
Why of course. Garrett is 3 games away from (FINALLY) getting the ax. This will be bigger than "who shot JR".
Stay tuned Cowboys Nation.

kskboys said:

The truth and facts. Unlike some, that's all I'm interested in. I'm never blinded by my love/hate of a player. Even keel.

After the stuff you posted about Dak, you should be too embarrassed to show your face in here. You've been wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. I mean, you haven't been right about pretty much anything, along w/ a complete inability to assess a player, not to mention even understanding the way a poster on here posts. It's like, when you reply to me, you're not even bright enough to read what I write, just spew down the same ol' same ol'. Problem is, what you're doing is so pathetic, it's really hard not to feel sorry for you. I'll try though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Click to expand...

Feel sorry for yourself as your Dak-Crush has you giving up on what at some point was your true love.... the Cowboys!
So I've been wrong better go ask the Garbage men how they became affiliated with Dak?
Also, ask them when we will beat a team with a winning record I mean after all a franchise QB like you portray in Dak should be able to beat 1 team with a winning record...... correct?

P.S. I've been right right right starting from Zeke being the highest-paid HB to Dak when I stated wait for him to play some real teams and watch him fall on his face!
Now sell crazy and blame everyone else on the team except your Dak-crush on why we're getting embarrassed weekly on National TV...

kskboys said:

I really don't see how anyone can claim Dak didn't improve. He improved tremendously, but he's never going to take that final step under this crapp scheme. Get a legit HC in here, and those who don't believe in Dak would be shocked at the difference.

Click to expand...

Ksk, I don't discount the last sentence concerning Dak because that would be an excellent situation, however I respectfully disagree on the first part of the statement. Yes, Dak has improved his yardage and other measurables in 2 scenarios; 1) When facing the NFL bottom feeder defenses (and that's a good thing), and 2) In amassing garbage time yards when teams are on prevent defense because we have failed to keep pace in scoring.. Look at the multiple times this has happened this season.

The tell tale sign is having all these passing yards and not having even one 4th quarter comeback. I've noted the positives in terms of Daks improvements but do you see why some of us still have doubts?

My expectations weren't high, considering we had a hard schedule, with poor coaching to boot.
I predicted this season's final record to finish by something on the order of 8-8 to 9-7.
As things now stand, I might well have estimated our luck with a slight dash of optimism.

AmariChill said:

I think our entire coaching staff has been exposed and everyone needs to be fired.

I think we also found out another problem is the culture within Dallas. Our players don't really care about winning as much as they do about social media, stats, likes, etc. This is a league wide problem, but its special within Dallas. Not sure how we're going to change everyones mindsets on the 53 man roster, but hopefully something can be done about it.

That's the good thing about losing. You can clearly access your problems. The only thing getting in the way of stopping those problems is the one and only senile Jerry Jones.

Now we know that not only should we fire Jason Garrett, we should fire O'Quinn, Moore (maybe), Rod, and Richard.

We also learned that 99% of our players lack what the other NFL teams have. Brotherhood, leadership, energy, passion, will to win, effort, ability to just have fun. I mean we've seen it multiple times. They don't defend the Star and they don't even defend themselves when they get mocked, embarrassed, and bullied. Just the other day on Cowboys talk, Dak said "its the game" when the reported asked about how he felt being mocked. He simply doesn't care. What a shame .

Click to expand...

AC, I totally agree with you. I would love to bring a culture of "toughness" and heart. I don't think it comes with just an overhaul of the coaching staff. We have some players and coaches that may not fit the formula of change and will have to be removed from the new culture via trade and outright release. We have had the "we like our guys" culture of aged Witten, aged Sean Lee, rushmen Marinelli, stubborn Richard, and of course The Clapper. While we are at it, lets get rid of the art gallery at the stadium, the $25 wine and cheese in the stands. Lets make this a TOUGH culture and not an elitist atmosphere. Lets actually make our players tough through hard work and accountability. Lets get stiff competition at every position including QB to forge each player to be the best they can be. Lets bring in outside analysts to look at the processes to offer suggestions on how to make the team better. Are you listening Jerry?

shabazz said:

Ksk, I don't discount the last sentence concerning Dak because that would be an excellent situation, however I respectfully disagree on the first part of the statement. Yes, Dak has improved his yardage and other measurables in 2 scenarios; 1) When facing the NFL bottom feeder defenses (and that's a good thing), and 2) In amassing garbage time yards when teams are on prevent defense because we have failed to keep pace in scoring.. Look at the multiple times this has happened this season.

The tell tale sign is having all these passing yards and not having even one 4th quarter comeback. I've noted the positives in terms of Daks improvements but do you see why some of us still have doubts?

Click to expand...

That's actually not what I look for when assessing a young QB who is (hopefully) improving.

This is what I've seen improve:

1. Footwork. Which has overall improved his accuracy.
2. Presence in the face of the blitz. This is more of a slight improvement, but it looks better to me.
3. Knowing where to go w/ the ball. It appears to me as if this is getting better.


Now, here's some of the problems:

1. Consistency. Moving the ball consistently is the most important facet of any QB. He's done better at times, but at times has stunk it up in this department.
2. Red zone. Ick. I'm hoping this is a scheme problem. Since this has been a problem for a long time(unless we were able to lean on the running game), I think there's a good chance we simply need better scheming there.
3. Throwing too many longer passes. Yes, a QB must go downfield, but now we seem to be going downfield possible too much.

For some reason, even though they've consistently worked, we still don't throw slants and crosses. We don't appear to be able to scheme guys open. This one has me bamfoozled. Since Dak has been pretty good at this, I have no choice but to blame it on the playcalling. I would love to see Mo calling plays under the tutelage of someone w/ experience.

Where are the passes to players out of the backfield? And why won't they work? Once again, scheme problems.

Just my take.

LatinMind said:

Id put Frederick at the top. Coming back and returning close to pre illness is tops for me.
Id put Dak and Collins at a tie. Collins was bad in 2018.
Gallup next
Jarwin after
And Connor Williams here.

Click to expand...

You clearly haven't watched Frederick play. The guy is unfortunately done. You know how we can’t open holes for Zeke? That’s because Frederick gets pushed back so often...Williams and Martin haven't been much better.

ChronicCowboy said:

You clearly haven't watched Frederick play. The guy is unfortunately done. You know how we can’t open holes for Zeke? That’s because Frederick gets pushed back so often...Williams and Martin haven't been much better.

Click to expand...

Totally clueless, how is the OL supposed to be opening holes consistently if theyre not attacking? Theyre reacting to defense that are not attacking on the snap. Rather using DL to fill gaps and floating their LBers to the ball. Basically what theyre doing is bottling up Elliot in the pocket. A competent coach would adjust and get out of a zone scheme that shouldnt be used with this OL.

IM clearly watching games, but i have to question if you know what ur watching.

kskboys said:

When we face a team lacking talent, our talent dominates. However, when we face a team w/ talent, they generally easily outscheme us.

We're seeing constant replays of the Rams playoff game.

Click to expand...

The rams really did there study on us. Catching our Defense in stunts and timing the run killed us. We will see if our DC will pick up in that Sunday and quit the stunting. Although they havent done it thus far. Our scheme is so easy that it makes a rookie or back up qb look like brady.

Blackrain said:

I think Dak showed the biggest improvement this year followed by Micheal Gallup and Collins .
Also Robert Quinn was a bright spot and Jason Witten after a year off was still Jason Witten

That said The defense regressed horrifically almost unbelievable what happened to our tackling .

The Oline is certainly not the dominant run blocking unit it once was. Zeke isnt bad but after watching Barkley the other night Zekes conditioning is not what I was expecting for an elite RB

Special teams has never been a strong point but this year is a new low

The ineptness of our coaching staff has only been outdone buy our kicking game What do you guys have ??

Click to expand...

I agree

Well, I did save hundreds of dollars on car insurance by switching to Geiko

Fletch said:

Witten being Witten is not a bright spot in my opinion. Give me Jarwin as TE1.

Agree with everything else regarding defense, ST, and coaching.

Click to expand...

Give me another TE.

Blackrain said:

I think Dak showed the biggest improvement this year followed by Micheal Gallup and Collins .
Also Robert Quinn was a bright spot and Jason Witten after a year off was still Jason Witten

That said The defense regressed horrifically almost unbelievable what happened to our tackling .

The Oline is certainly not the dominant run blocking unit it once was. Zeke isnt bad but after watching Barkley the other night Zekes conditioning is not what I was expecting for an elite RB

Special teams has never been a strong point but this year is a new low

The ineptness of our coaching staff has only been outdone buy our kicking game What do you guys have ??

Click to expand...

I think you hit on them, all few of them.

Dak showed significant improvent, sorry to those that still try to hate on him, the numbers have embarrassed you all.

And Gallup improved somewhat, but still suffers way too many drops.

And Collins has improved significantly as well and is one of the few earning his payday.

That's about it. Everything else is worse.