Aikman has GM aspirations

Bullflop said:

My post wasn't intended to suggest that Garrett was or is competent to assume that position. It was specifically intended as an ironical situation whereby Jerry might be tempted to create a lateral move that would keep him in tow for him to continue being his family's pal and confidante. I don't blame you or anyone else for being highly skeptical of such a decision, however. It's simply that I wouldn't put it past Jerry to consider such a move, as distasteful as it might well be. I realize how it would tend to chap some hides around these parts, though. Sorry for the anguish it invoked.

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no anguish. just wondering what others thought about garrett's, or even aikman's ability to do the job.

cowboy_ron said:

In the news feed zone there's an article about this he just don't expect it to be in Dallas. I think he will be a pretty good GM somewhere which will be sad for us simply because of Jerry's ego.

Jerry would rather watch Troy be highly successful somewhere else than swallow his pride and name Troy as GM.

GM's are graded on the decisions they make..........does this sound like a good decision by our current GM?

ModEdit: https://cowboyszone.com/threads/usa...hough-doesnt-see-it-under-jerry-jones.448169/

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The problem is the owner and executive management is who has to grade the GM for each team, and with the Cowboys that's the same guy as the GM.

DallasEast said:

[Disclaimer: I, DallasEast, am not a mental health expert. My scholastic knowledge of psychology is limited to only a few college courses. Even so I do believe in my opinion though.]

The symptoms highlighted in red are ones I believe Jones has demonstrated ever since he stepped into the public's eye. I do not either agree or have enough information to suggest Jones shares the symptoms that are not highlighted in red. However, it is not required for all symptoms to match someone's personality.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...onality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

Narcissistic personality disorder

• Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
• Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
• Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
• Exaggerate achievements and talents
• Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
• Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
• Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
• Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
• Take advantage of others to get what they want
• Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
• Be envious of others and believe others envy them
• Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
• Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office

At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

• Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
• Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
• React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
• Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior (Note: not highlighted but is one bullet point I want personal confirmation, which is why I always harp on the media really pressing Jones on GM qualifications during every possible interview occasion)
• Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
• Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
• Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation

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The world's population is filled with a LOT more narcissists than non-narcissists believe exist. Additionally, all narcissists do not act publicly in the exact same way as other narcissists (this is true of all personality disorders). Some of the most successful people in history are narcissists. In my opinion, Jerry Jones is one of them.

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Having a big ego or a sense of entitlement because you are rich does not necessarily mean you are a narcissist. People who are used to getting their own way because they have power over others can be a lot of things but not necessarily narcissistic. Jerry is a drinker, supposedly, so I'd want to explore that a little more and all that surgery he had on his face is interesting too. I am more inclined to believe that Jerry is like a lot of billionaires who earned their way tot he top. He is in charge and he likes it that way. He's one of those people who would rather he fails because of his own mistakes than those of others. One reason I do not believe that Jerry is a narcissist is his misplaced loyalty to some of his players and coaches. Narcissists don't give a rats behind about others. Its always all about them. Sure Jerry wants the credit when anything goes right, because he really believes he deserves it, not because he needs admiration from others.

I still think Jerry is like the kid who delivers newspapers every day for a few buck but he saves all of it to buy the new XBOX and Madden football. Once he reaches his goal, he takes the controller and won't give it up to anyone. He bought it and he is going to enjoy it even if he loses every time he plays. The bad part is, he does not lose every time. Jerry focuses on when he wins are basks in the glory of it. He is never giving up that controller and if he could be buried with it, he would.

cowboy_ron said:

In the news feed zone there's an article about this he just don't expect it to be in Dallas. I think he will be a pretty good GM somewhere which will be sad for us simply because of Jerry's ego.

Jerry would rather watch Troy be highly successful somewhere else than swallow his pride and name Troy as GM.

GM's are graded on the decisions they make..........does this sound like a good decision by our current GM?

ModEdit: https://cowboyszone.com/threads/usa...hough-doesnt-see-it-under-jerry-jones.448169/

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Well since he won't bring in Troy-who I think would make a great GM- Jerry has already failed as GM and should be fired. But wait for it...……..he'd rather lose for 30 years before saying "they did it better" I truly was the one who sucked.

cern said:

no anguish. just wondering what others thought about garrett's, or even aikman's ability to do the job.

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I wouldn't wish that on the members of this website, fully knowing what the consensus of opinions are here. It was merely intended as an ironical possibility that would very likely fail to meet the approval of a large majority who'd be subjected to it. If it came to a vote, I'd join those opposed to JG as our GM. I'm sure JJ wouldn't consider Aikman, though, in view of his past comments opposing Jerry.

...no doubt, Aikman will be hot commodity. Lots of organizations will take a crack at him.

I respect your opinion about everything else but...

Creeper said:

One reason I do not believe that Jerry is a narcissist is his misplaced loyalty to some of his players and coaches. Narcissists don't give a rats behind about others. Its always all about them.

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...[the bold] is not exclusively true of all narcissists. Each individual with a particular personality disorder does not necessarily share the exact same symptoms with another individual with the same personality disorder. The same is true of narcissistic personality disorder. Narcissists can be apathetic, lack degrees of empathy, or express appreciative levels of empathy for others.

dfense said:

Exactly. And what has Aikman done at any time to make anyone think he would make a great GM? Wear the star?

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If nothing else, he seems to have good common sense -- something that Jerry and many other GMs lack. Admittedly, his background as a QB wouldn't be any guarantee of competence, however. He'd be subject to a period of adjustment, no doubt. Granted, his talent estimation of David LaFleur was pretty tragic, though.

If that were ever to happen, I would imagine it would have to happen soon. Remember, Troy and Stephen, not really best pals back in the day so it would have to be a Jerry hire, I would think. After Jerry leaves, I am not sure how long that might last.

a person who believes he/she is right most of the time, and is in fact right most of the time might be an egoist and not necessarily a narcissist. a person who believes he/she is right most of the time despite being proven to be wrong more often than not is more than likely a narcissist. admiral rickover falls under the first category. jerry falls under the second category. but just the simple kind. not the npd kind.

IceStarD54 said:

Well since he won't bring in Troy-who I think would make a great GM- Jerry has already failed as GM and should be fired. But wait for it...……..he'd rather lose for 30 years before saying "they did it better" I truly was the one who sucked.

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Everyone that has given Jerry any football success......Jimmy, Troy, Michael, emmitt have all tried to tell him but he'll go to his grave a failed football guy because of his ego and stubbornness.........here to feel sorry for somebody like that.

ABQCOWBOY said:

Remember, Troy and Stephen, not really best pals back in the day

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what's this all about? I don't recall hearing any issues between the two

please do tell

The Quest for Six said:

I think Troy stated years ago after his stint with FOX that he'd like to be an executive with an NFL organization at some point

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Me too
But I’m not qualified to be a GM and I’ve never seen anything that makes me think Troy is either

yimyammer said:

what's this all about? I don't recall hearing any issues between the two

please do tell

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not until 2018 when Stephen called troy an armchair qb for calling out jerry. hardly the stuff of hatfield and mccoys.

conner01 said:

Me too
But I’m not qualified to be a GM and I’ve never seen anything that makes me think Troy is either

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Jerry drilled oil holes yet that makes him qualified to be a GM???? At least Troy played and has been around players to have some idea who can play and who can't as he stated after two practices about Shante Carver...I'd place more confidence in Troy over Jerry any day..

yimyammer said:

what's this all about? I don't recall hearing any issues between the two

please do tell

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I don't know much, other then what has been reported previously, which was that Stephen and Garrett were pretty tight but Stephen and Aikman were not. What the reasoning was behind why is pretty much speculation, from what I can tell but it is true that there was something between them at the time. Relationship was obviously different between each of those QBs and Stephen. If this is still the case, I don't know that Troy would be the guy Stephen would necessarily want as GM. Jerry might entertain something like that but I suspect Stephen would not.

JMO

Troy would make a fine executive but GM coming in with zero personnel experience?
I'd pass there.

If Dallas names a GM they have the guy in house in McClay. Which is why all this stuff is nonsense to me.

McClay has had his pick of GM jobs the last 3 off-seasons.
This is the first year he isn't a hot name given the team crumbling.
The team needs to draft better next year and McClay needs to find us some FA help but he's still more qualified than 90% of the league to do so.

ABQCOWBOY said:

I don't know much, other then what has been reported previously, which was that Stephen and Garrett were pretty tight but Stephen and Aikman were not. What the reasoning was behind why is pretty much speculation, from what I can tell but it is true that there was something between them at the time. Relationship was obviously different between each of those QBs and Stephen. If this is still the case, I don't know that Troy would be the guy Stephen would necessarily want as GM. Jerry might entertain something like that but I suspect Stephen would not.

JMO

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Troy is less close to the Jones' than the other two members of the triplets to be sure.

The Quest for Six said:

Jerry drilled oil holes yet that makes him qualified to be a GM???? At least Troy played and has been around players to have some idea who can play and who can't as he stated after two practices about Shante Carver...I'd place more confidence in Troy over Jerry any day..

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Jerry has scouts and when he listens to them we draft well
When he doesn’t we get T Hill types
I think mcClay is the ideal candidate for GM if they ever actually hire one but Stephen may decide he too will be GM
As long as he listens to the scouts, and keeps good scouts around then he really is more of a final decision maker, much like Jerry
To me most successful GM’s are from a scouting background

Troy speaks the truth . Always has since Jimmy left . Not everyone can handle his brash brutal honesty.