Congrats Zeke

INCowboysFan · Dec 10, 2019

DandyDon52 said:
A true elite rb which is what they paid for would avg a 100 yds a game, that is 1600 yds a season.
1400 yds is a minimum .
But that is just yardage, what matters is helping the team win games , with a few being the RB won the game.
Elliot is not doing either one. He is a joke, and the joke is on the jones boys for caving and signing him.
had they held out we would have had pollard and some FA back and probably would have had a better run game.

so by your definition of "elite", there currently isn't a single elite RB in the NFL. Chubb leads the league with 98.5 ypg.

INCowboysFan · Dec 10, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
"right up there for a RB"?

Zeke was supposed to be the best RB in the NFL. Was supposed to be top 5.

He definitely is not anymore. Nice to see him finally break a run over 15 yards last night, but he missed lots of huge cut back holes again. Zeke is limited in the passing game. Doesn't have a good feel for routes or what to do to be a quality outlet option. The new coaching staff will hopefully start playing Pollard more because that big play dynamic just isn't there with Zeke.

His contract will go down as one of the worst in Cowboys history.

9 TD's is respectable at this point in the year, but considering he plays on the #1 offense in football he should be absolutely dominating and he doesn't.

Zeke is #5 in the league in rushing, so according to you he has reached expectations.

DandyDon52 · Dec 10, 2019

Nick Chubb CLE 253 1,281 5.1 7
Derrick Henry TEN 250 1,243 5.0 13
Christian McCaffrey CAR 246 1,220 5.0 12
Dalvin Cook MIN 241 1,108 4.6 13
Ezekiel Elliott DAL 246 1,071 4.4 9
Josh Jacobs OAK 218 1,061 4.9 7
Chris Carson SEA 246 1,057 4.3 5
Leonard Fournette JAX 235 1,039 4.4 3
Lamar Jackson BAL 151 1,017 6.7 7
Carlos Hyde HOU 198 926 4.7 4
10
Marlon Mack IND 205 900 4.4 5
Mark Ingram II BAL 181 887 4.9 9
Phillip Lindsay DEN 180 817 4.5 6
Joe Mixon CIN 206 789 3.8 3
Aaron Jones GB 175 779 4.5 12
Todd Gurley II LAR 177 721 4.1 9
As far as total yds go this is really a almost meaningless stat by itself, the guys who get the most carries are always the
leaders.
If your going to use this you should go by the avg yds per carry. here is the list for that , and elliot is way on down.
Lamar Jackson BAL 151 1,017 6.7 7
Raheem Mostert SF 102 608 6.0 4
Devin Singletary BUF 115 642 5.6 2
Matt Breida SF 115 596 5.2 1
Nick Chubb CLE 253 1,281 5.1 7
Gus Edwards BAL 95 480 5.1 2
Derrick Henry TEN 250 1,243 5.0 13
Christian McCaffrey CAR 246 1,220 5.0 12
Mark Ingram II BAL 181 887 4.9 9
Josh Jacobs OAK 218 1,061 4.9 7
LeSean McCoy KC 95 449 4.7 4
Latavius Murray NO 113 533 4.7 5
Carlos Hyde HOU 198 926 4.7 4
Josh Allen BUF 95 439 4.6 8
Alexander Mattison MIN 100 462 4.6 1
Dalvin Cook MIN 241 1,108 4.6 13
Phillip Lindsay DEN 180 817 4.5 6
Miles Sanders PHI 116 520 4.5 1
Aaron Jones GB 175 779 4.5 12
Alvin Kamara NO 138 612 4.4 1
Leonard Fournette JAX 235 1,039 4.4 3
Jordan Howard PHI 119 525 4.4 6
Marlon Mack IND 205 900 4.4 5
Ezekiel Elliott DAL 246 1,071 4.4 9
SF has 2 rb in the top 10 balt has their qb and 2 rb in top 10 and their qb to me is the best runner in the league lol.
If elliot were elite he would have a 5.0 avg or better
The other thing to look at is total yds which include rec yds, because many backs get their touches in that area, and it is
part of the modern rb role.
Just to be a good back should be 4.5 to 4.9 and elliot is below that.
It isnt all his fault, the coaches get some of the blame, but each back has to deal with similar stuff on the various teams.

CowboyRoy · Dec 10, 2019

INCowboysFan said:
Zeke is #5 in the league in rushing, so according to you he has reached expectations.

First off, he is paid like he is the best in the NFL. Which he is clearly not.

Not sure where you get #5, but if you look at yards per carry, he isn't even top 10. Give any back the amount of carries that ZEke has had, and the yards will pile up. NO matter how effective he is.

And considering he has the #2 ranked rushing Oline in the NFL and gets the most carries, the guy should be destroying the league. And did I mention he operates in the #1 offense in the NFL?

Zeke isn't cutting it. Not for the money.

blueblood70 · Dec 10, 2019

DandyDon52 said:
Nick Chubb CLE 253 1,281 5.1 7
Derrick Henry TEN 250 1,243 5.0 13
Christian McCaffrey CAR 246 1,220 5.0 12
Dalvin Cook MIN 241 1,108 4.6 13
Ezekiel Elliott DAL 246 1,071 4.4 9
Josh Jacobs OAK 218 1,061 4.9 7
Chris Carson SEA 246 1,057 4.3 5
Leonard Fournette JAX 235 1,039 4.4 3
Lamar Jackson BAL 151 1,017 6.7 7
Carlos Hyde HOU 198 926 4.7 4
10
Marlon Mack IND 205 900 4.4 5
Mark Ingram II BAL 181 887 4.9 9
Phillip Lindsay DEN 180 817 4.5 6
Joe Mixon CIN 206 789 3.8 3
Aaron Jones GB 175 779 4.5 12
Todd Gurley II LAR 177 721 4.1 9
As far as total yds go this is really a almost meaningless stat by itself, the guys who get the most carries are always the
leaders.
If your going to use this you should go by the avg yds per carry. here is the list for that , and elliot is way on down.
Lamar Jackson BAL 151 1,017 6.7 7
Raheem Mostert SF 102 608 6.0 4
Devin Singletary BUF 115 642 5.6 2
Matt Breida SF 115 596 5.2 1
Nick Chubb CLE 253 1,281 5.1 7
Gus Edwards BAL 95 480 5.1 2
Derrick Henry TEN 250 1,243 5.0 13
Christian McCaffrey CAR 246 1,220 5.0 12
Mark Ingram II BAL 181 887 4.9 9
Josh Jacobs OAK 218 1,061 4.9 7
LeSean McCoy KC 95 449 4.7 4
Latavius Murray NO 113 533 4.7 5
Carlos Hyde HOU 198 926 4.7 4
Josh Allen BUF 95 439 4.6 8
Alexander Mattison MIN 100 462 4.6 1
Dalvin Cook MIN 241 1,108 4.6 13
Phillip Lindsay DEN 180 817 4.5 6
Miles Sanders PHI 116 520 4.5 1
Aaron Jones GB 175 779 4.5 12
Alvin Kamara NO 138 612 4.4 1
Leonard Fournette JAX 235 1,039 4.4 3
Jordan Howard PHI 119 525 4.4 6
Marlon Mack IND 205 900 4.4 5
Ezekiel Elliott DAL 246 1,071 4.4 9
SF has 2 rb in the top 10 balt has their qb and 2 rb in top 10 and their qb to me is the best runner in the league lol.
If elliot were elite he would have a 5.0 avg or better
The other thing to look at is total yds which include rec yds, because many backs get their touches in that area, and it is
part of the modern rb role.
Just to be a good back should be 4.5 to 4.9 and elliot is below that.
It isnt all his fault, the coaches get some of the blame, but each back has to deal with similar stuff on the various teams.

wrong you are elite for what you have done and continue to do, he gets credit for his first 3 years and thats why he got paid.just because he slipped some doesnt change the fact that hes one of the best..

Emmitt smith only did that twice in his LONG career , Smith had MANY years YPC averages below 4.5 and some below 4.0. his career YPC was like 4.4 ...

so once again nit picking stats to determine generational or elite is way off as one of the best of all time didnt do that often.. its a handful of fans narratives..

Zeke having down year in top 5 only because we are comparing him to his previous great years..facts are hes ben running for nearly 6YPC in the first halves the last 3 losses and then w e got behind and they didnt get him the ball more then 5times after the half.. if they did and weren't pass happy, zeke would be 3rd right now maybe 2nd heck maybe leading as usual..

his demise is a fans perspective, the truth is hes Zeke..hes hasn't regressed as much as fans want to say as he got paid and now under the scope.. top 5 is not bad for a RB those say are in decline..hes looking down at some big names...

truth is two backs are having career years, zekes been there, lots of factors are the only reason hes fallen from 1 to 5 but hes shown he can still carry the team when needed..

shabazz · Dec 10, 2019

erod said:
He taps out every time he runs two plays in a row.

Emmitt never did that.

That's what I'm not understanding......only in Dallas

But at least he previously earned the contract

jay94 · Dec 10, 2019

cern said:
zeke is worth his money. too bad the hc can't figure out how to use him effectively.[/QUOTE

No rb is worth his contract. He's been borderline a top ten back, if that is worth elite money than sure.

blueblood70 · Dec 10, 2019

DandyDon52 said:
Nick Chubb CLE 253 1,281 5.1 7
Derrick Henry TEN 250 1,243 5.0 13
Christian McCaffrey CAR 246 1,220 5.0 12
Dalvin Cook MIN 241 1,108 4.6 13
Ezekiel Elliott DAL 246 1,071 4.4 9
Josh Jacobs OAK 218 1,061 4.9 7
Chris Carson SEA 246 1,057 4.3 5
Leonard Fournette JAX 235 1,039 4.4 3
Lamar Jackson BAL 151 1,017 6.7 7
Carlos Hyde HOU 198 926 4.7 4
10
Marlon Mack IND 205 900 4.4 5
Mark Ingram II BAL 181 887 4.9 9
Phillip Lindsay DEN 180 817 4.5 6
Joe Mixon CIN 206 789 3.8 3
Aaron Jones GB 175 779 4.5 12
Todd Gurley II LAR 177 721 4.1 9
As far as total yds go this is really a almost meaningless stat by itself, the guys who get the most carries are always the
leaders.
If your going to use this you should go by the avg yds per carry. here is the list for that , and elliot is way on down.
Lamar Jackson BAL 151 1,017 6.7 7
Raheem Mostert SF 102 608 6.0 4
Devin Singletary BUF 115 642 5.6 2
Matt Breida SF 115 596 5.2 1
Nick Chubb CLE 253 1,281 5.1 7
Gus Edwards BAL 95 480 5.1 2
Derrick Henry TEN 250 1,243 5.0 13
Christian McCaffrey CAR 246 1,220 5.0 12
Mark Ingram II BAL 181 887 4.9 9
Josh Jacobs OAK 218 1,061 4.9 7
LeSean McCoy KC 95 449 4.7 4
Latavius Murray NO 113 533 4.7 5
Carlos Hyde HOU 198 926 4.7 4
Josh Allen BUF 95 439 4.6 8
Alexander Mattison MIN 100 462 4.6 1
Dalvin Cook MIN 241 1,108 4.6 13
Phillip Lindsay DEN 180 817 4.5 6
Miles Sanders PHI 116 520 4.5 1
Aaron Jones GB 175 779 4.5 12
Alvin Kamara NO 138 612 4.4 1
Leonard Fournette JAX 235 1,039 4.4 3
Jordan Howard PHI 119 525 4.4 6
Marlon Mack IND 205 900 4.4 5
Ezekiel Elliott DAL 246 1,071 4.4 9
SF has 2 rb in the top 10 balt has their qb and 2 rb in top 10 and their qb to me is the best runner in the league lol.
If elliot were elite he would have a 5.0 avg or better
The other thing to look at is total yds which include rec yds, because many backs get their touches in that area, and it is
part of the modern rb role.
Just to be a good back should be 4.5 to 4.9 and elliot is below that.
It isnt all his fault, the coaches get some of the blame, but each back has to deal with similar stuff on the various teams.

your YOC Avg list is filed with losts of carriers inding QBs with under 125 carries..that doesnt count, the more you carry typically lowers your YPC lmao thats not Accurate..being healthy available and able to carry a load goes into it, ES is in the HOF for that very reason.. volume back that is always avaible and can handle it 30 times agme without getting injured..thats counts..

troll hater opinion ...rediculius

DandyDon52 · Dec 11, 2019

INCowboysFan said:
so by your definition of "elite", there currently isn't a single elite RB in the NFL. Chubb leads the league with 98.5 ypg.

the only RB this year that I would say is in the elite area, is McCaffery. He has 1946 total yds from scrimmage so far.
He catches a lot of passes, which is what good rb's do now days.
And elliot is doing ok this year, just no where near the best in the league, which he proclaimed he was , and jerry paid him like he is.
these are the top rb in total yds
Player Team Pos Gms total Yds YPG rush Yds YPG rec Yd YPG
Christian McCaffrey CAR RB 13 1,946 149.7 1,220 93.8 726 55.8
Dalvin Cook MIN RB 13 1,611 123.9 1,108 85.2 503 38.7
Nick Chubb CLE RB 13 1,537 118.2 1,281 98.5 256 19.7
Leonard Fournette JAX RB 13 1,496 115.1 1,039 79.9 457 35.2
Derrick Henry TEN RB 13 1,449 111.5 1,243 95.6 206 15.8

Ezekiel Elliott DAL RB 13 1,409 108.4 1,071 82.4 338 26.0
Austin Ekeler LAC RB 13 1,311 100.8 481 37.0 830 63.8
Chris Carson SEA RB 13 1,299 99.9 1,057 81.3 242 18.6
Joshua Jacobs OAK RB 12 1,207 100.6 1,061 88.4 146 12.2
Aaron Jones GB RB 13 1,204 92.6 779 59.9 425 32.7

McCaffery has 500 more yds than EE

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