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Many fans were begging for a change from the offense. I personally liked 250 yards control the ball Smash Mouth. It kept the defense off the field longer first of all.Now they’re exposed because they really truly weren’t that good. Was it because they were the youngest starting defense in the league I don’t know. I don’t like anything that came with the changes of the season. Frustrated like most go cowboys
 
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I'm not blaming the offense for the defense's failings. If anything, I consider it the other way around. The defense allowing teams to march up and down the field and score has taken Zeke and the running game out of games this year.

This defense is abysmal. It has been from week 1 when they gave up 500 yards of offense to the Giants, but the Usual Suspects downplayed it then too.
 
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We were begging for meaningful change to the offense. 400 yards a game, with 300 of them coming from the 4th Q in overtime. I don't care how many yards Dak throws for, I want to win the damn game. We are not using the passing attack wisely. Last year, I think everyone wanted us to pass more. Now everyone wants to run the ball more. There is an equilibrium that this coaching staff cannot grasp. Vikings game, we should've passed the ball more. Patriots game, we should've ran the ball more. This coaching staff is so backwards.

Also, we do need to go back to running the ball a bit more. I understand we need to pass the ball more in some games, but our defense is terrible and they need to be off the field as much as possible. The only reason we go from running to passing is because we start getting down by 2 possessions, thanks to the defense. Our offense cannot afford one 3 and out. So we either need to score on every drive or control TOP. I was watching undisputed earlier this morning, and in 2016 and 2018 (aka, our winning, playoff bound seasons), I believe we were top 5 in TOP. This year, we're ranked 23rd.

All in all, there are a lot of factors behind games like this.
 
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stasheroo said:
I'm not blaming the offense for the defense's failings. If anything, I consider it the other way around. The defense allowing teams to march up and down the field and score has taken Zeke and the running game out of games this year.

This defense is abysmal. It has been from week 1 when they gave up 500 yards of offense to the Giants, but the Usual Suspects downplayed it then too.
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Again I’m not really trying to blame anybody I don’t like the
Scheme change . Is what Ithought I was trying to imply
 
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Whirlwin said:
Again I’m not really trying to blame anybody I don’t like the
Scheme change . Is what Ithought I was trying to imply
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I can't argue with a scheme change that has them among the best in the league in total offense and top 10 in points. Scoring more than the other guys is what wins games at the end of the day.

They can score, they just can't stop anybody from scoring.
 
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stasheroo said:
I can't argue with a scheme change that has them among the best in the league in scoring points. Scoring more than the other guys is what wins games at the end of the day.

They can score, they just can't stop anybody from scoring.
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in a few isolated games (such as Chicago) this is correct.
Fact is though heading into the Bears game we were 8th in the league in points allowed. Now 12th.

Not saying our defense is stellar by any means but to say they've been totally shredded in every game this year isn't accurate either.

I find it equally troubling that our offense is racking up yards like crazy but is barely in the top 10 in points (currently 9th)
This would seem to support the "garbage time" argument that a lot of posters are being mocked for on here.

thoughts?
 
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BoysForLife said:
in a few isolated games (such as Chicago) this is correct.
Fact is though heading into the Bears game we were 8th in the league in points allowed. Now 12th.

Not saying our defense is stellar by any means but to say they've been totally shredded in every game this year isn't accurate either.

I find it equally troubling that our offense is racking up yards like crazy but is barely in the top 10 in points (currently 9th)
This would seem to support the "garbage time" argument that a lot of posters are being mocked for on here.

thoughts?
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There is an element of truth to "garbage time" stats, but using it as a broad brush is oversimplification in my view. I think a better assessment is the continued red zone struggles, those date back beyond just this year.

As you indicated, there's a disconnect between yardage and scoring when you're first in yards by a good margin and yet just 9th in scoring. It's not translating into point. But having a kicker with the most misses in the league doesn't help does it? And that has nothing to do with "garbage time" or not.

And I think that you would also admit that when your defense can't stop anybody, Zeke and the running game go out the window, certainly under this coaching staff.
 
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offense is just as guilty as the defense. Sure the defense sucks more as a whole, but we have enough hiccups from a few offensive players that'll kill any game. Losing 2 games needing 13 points, having an inept passing game for entire halves. Sooner or later some of you will change tunes on the blame game. Can only blame RB, OL, coaches, defense so many times before realizing maybe certain players are really holding us back.
 
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All I know is, our offense has only played consistently well against one winning team this year and that was against the Vikings. Blame the kicker, blame the defense, but a lot of this falls on us just not being able to get it done on the most important part of the field: Red zone. Dak has also played his worst in both the first and fourth quarter going by his situational stats. Dak seems to "turn it on" later in the third quarter, but by the time this happens, the game is already out of reach.

We just all-around suck right now. There's no excuses for either side of the ball.
 
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stasheroo said:
I can't argue with a scheme change that has them among the best in the league in total offense and top 10 in points. Scoring more than the other guys is what wins games at the end of the day.

They can score, they just can't stop anybody from scoring.
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I know. But it’s allowing the defense to be exposed there on the field too often. I’d rather go back to smash mouth. I want to do anything that’s working other than what we’re doing LOL
 
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MichaelWinicki said:
Much happier with the offense than I am the defense and special teams.

If your offense has to "hide" the defense, then you don't have a good enough defense.
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Exactly. I think that’s what happened last season though we hid the defense
 
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stasheroo said:
There is an element of truth to "garbage time" stats, but using it as a broad brush is oversimplification in my view. I think a better assessment is the continued red zone struggles, those date back beyond just this year.

As you indicated, there's a disconnect between yardage and scoring when you're first in yards by a good margin and yet just 9th in scoring. It's not translating into point. But having a kicker with the most misses in the league doesn't help does it? And that has nothing to do with "garbage time" or not.

And I think that you would also admit that when your defense can't stop anybody, Zeke and the running game go out the window, certainly under this coaching staff.
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I'm puzzled by the early abandonment of the run game. To your point, in the Bears game--it became quickly apparent that our defense was not up to the task that night. I'll make no defense of our D in that Bears game. They were atrocious.

To me, that's the time you want to double down on Zeke and try to grind out a 20-17 type win by keeping their offense off the field as much as possible with long drives. zeke had a great first drive then the minute we went down a score, they pretty much went away from him when there was still plenty of time to re-establish some physicality.

Whoever is responsible for that--whether it's Moore calling the plays or Dak changing them, it's an issue.
IMO--Dak is not a guy that is going to win you a bunch of shootouts. That's not an attempt at a bash on him, just how I honestly see him.
 
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