Would you sign Dak for 5-years, $175 million?

LatinMind · Dec 12, 2019

superonyx said:
You may be right. I'm mixed on Jones.
I don't put all the blame of our secondaries lack of turnovers on the skill level of the guys as much as I put it on the scheme that is not innovative at all. Watching Sam Darnold carve us up like a thanksgiving turkey was pretty bad. We just line up and "beat your man". That crap hasnt worked at this level in a long time. Turnovers come from scheme and making the QB see ghost.

I just dont know what we have when we don't have a coaching staff equipped to put players in positions to succeed.

That said I am not giving him a franchise level contract. He can walk before I do that.

Jones' best yr came as his only yr playing fs 2016 iN 2017 they moved him to SS because Heath was bad at SS.

phildadon86 · Dec 12, 2019

CATCH17 said:
I would franchise him and try to find his replacement in the draft.

Dak just runs the offense. He's a heck of a player but he's terrible value at a high number just like most of these overpaid QB's right now.

Dak doesn't elevate anyone on this team and I think with that kind of money you should be able to elevate your team to wins instead of being along for the ride.

Zeke has struggled this year so guess what.. The Cowboys have struggled this year.... Dak has done nothing to help or hurt this team. He's just out there.

He doesnt elevate anyone? So explain Cooper's resurgence since coming here. I mean Derek Carr is better than Dak yet Cooper failed with him. So whats the difference?

BoysForLife · Dec 12, 2019

phildadon86 said:
He doesnt elevate anyone? So explain Cooper's resurgence since coming here. I mean Derek Carr is better than Dak yet Cooper failed with him. So whats the difference?

Simply not true.
Cooper was a 1000 yard receiver both his first 2 years in Oakland with Carr.

And check Dak's stat line the first half of 2018 before Coop showed up.
He only surpassed 200 yards passing in 3 of the first 7 games before AC walked through the door in 2018.

Cooper helped Dak, significantly more than Dak helped Cooper.

Stash · Dec 12, 2019

superonyx said:
I'm not sure who scares you from resigning?
Amari Cooper? You think we can do better in free agency?
Byron Jones? Again do you think we can do better in free agency?
Quinn? He is probably leaving anyway for money.

Other than these 2 and Dak the rest of the guys who are in need of a contract are replaceable type of players.
I don't think any of us would be upset switching out some of the lower tier parts.

I'm not paying Byron Jones. He simply isn't worth the huge contract he and his agent will be looking for and I can get my 0 interceptions for the year much cheaper.

Stash · Dec 12, 2019

BoysForLife said:
Simply not true.
Cooper was a 1000 yard receiver both his first 2 years in Oakland with Carr.

And check Dak's stat line the first half of 2018 before Coop showed up.
He only surpassed 200 yards passing in 3 of the first 7 games before AC walked through the door in 2018.

Cooper helped Dak, significantly more than Dak helped Cooper.

Do you want to give us the names of the receivers that Prescott did have prior to Cooper?

Hint:

Don't look for them on current NFL rosters.

phildadon86 · Dec 12, 2019

BoysForLife said:
Simply not true.
Cooper was a 1000 yard receiver both his first 2 years in Oakland with Carr.

And check Dak's stat line the first half of 2018 before Coop showed up.
He only surpassed 200 yards passing in 3 of the first 7 games before AC walked through the door in 2018.

Cooper helped Dak, significantly more than Dak helped Cooper.

You want to show me Coopers stats before he came to Dallas last season? 280 Yards thru 8 games. Ill wait for your response

phildadon86 · Dec 12, 2019

stasheroo said:
Do you want to give us the names of the receivers that Prescott did have prior to Cooper?

Hint:

Don't look for them on current NFL rosters.

Cooper had 280 Yards in 8 games before coming to Dallas and having Dak as his QB. But Cooper made Dak better. LOL.

Stash · Dec 12, 2019

phildadon86 said:
Cooper had 280 Yards in 8 games before coming to Dallas and having Dak as his QB. But Cooper made Dak better. LOL.

I think it's both personally, but I just shoot holes in this narrative that Dak doesn't help anybody.

dcstar · Dec 12, 2019

Not no but..H E double hockey sticks No.

Go Cowboys!

Manster_Mash · Dec 12, 2019

Look, I don't care which side of the Dak camp you are in (admittedly, I'm in the camp that thinks he's a mediocre starting QB), but it would be plain stupid to extend him now and force him on the next coaching staff. Under no circumstance do I extend him until the next coach gives his blessing.

Manster_Mash · Dec 12, 2019

stasheroo said:
Do you want to give us the names of the receivers that Prescott did have prior to Cooper?

Hint:

Don't look for them on current NFL rosters.

One of them lit us up on Tday.

BoysForLife · Dec 12, 2019

stasheroo said:
Do you want to give us the names of the receivers that Prescott did have prior to Cooper?

Hint:

Don't look for them on current NFL rosters.

Well there’s Gallup and Beasley that were both there

Are either of those guys currently on an NFL roster? I could’ve sworn I just saw Beasley recently torch us on our own field but my memory is not what it used to be LOL

End of the day I don’t give a hoot who your receivers are, if you’re a starting NFL quarterback you should be able to throw for 200 yards in your sleep almost every week.

BoysForLife · Dec 12, 2019

phildadon86 said:
Cooper had 280 Yards in 8 games before coming to Dallas and having Dak as his QB. But Cooper made Dak better. LOL.

Right so Cooper had a bad stretch the first half of 2018 and he’s garbage. Prescott had a bad stretch the first half of 2018 And we need to pay him $40 million a year

Got it

By the way Prescott sucked pretty much all of 2017 as well. Cooper didn’t

phildadon86 · Dec 12, 2019

BoysForLife said:
Right so Cooper had a bad stretch the first half of 2018 and he’s garbage. Prescott had a bad stretch the first half of 2018 And we need to pay him $40 million a year

Got it

By the way Prescott sucked pretty much all of 2017 as well. Cooper didn’t

2017? Right. You mean the year when we were missing our starting LT and RB? And the coaching staff allowed prescott to be sacked a billion times in one game by a JAG? Yeah. Cool story bro

BoysForLife · Dec 12, 2019

phildadon86 said:
You want to show me Coopers stats before he came to Dallas last season? 280 Yards thru 8 games. Ill wait for your response

Per my response above I wouldn’t use the first half of 2018 as a bellwether If your goal is to make Prescott look good

More than half the games he was under 200 yards. For an NFL quarterback that’s abominably bad

BoysForLife · Dec 12, 2019

phildadon86 said:
2017? Right. You mean the year when we were missing our starting LT and RB? And the coaching staff allowed prescott to be sacked a billion times in one game by a JAG? Yeah. Cool story bro

All aboard the excuse train, leaving the station!

Just curious why no excuse train for AC? Don’t bother answering we both know why

CF74 · Dec 12, 2019

stasheroo said:
If you could sign Prescott for that cost today, would you do it or not?

He only wants a 3 year deal, in that time it will be considered a bargain...

phildadon86 · Dec 12, 2019

BoysForLife said:
Per my response above I wouldn’t use the first half of 2018 as a bellwether If your goal is to make Prescott look good

More than half the games he was under 200 yards. For an NFL quarterback that’s abominably bad

For a top 5 WR that many claim him to be. 280 yards in 8 games is horrible.

phildadon86 · Dec 12, 2019

BoysForLife said:
All aboard the excuse train, leaving the station!

Just curious why no excuse train for AC? Don’t bother answering we both know why

What was his excuse? Same team around him. Needed a change of scenery? lol. He had the same QB who is supposedly better than Dak. So how come with the better QB he put up lesser stats?

BoysForLife · Dec 12, 2019

phildadon86 said:
For a top 5 WR that many claim him to be. 280 yards in 8 games is horrible.

Key difference: the wide receiver doesn’t handle the ball on every single snap. The quarterback does. But you knew that.....

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