Twitter: Aikman- some coaches believe Cowboys roster is overrated

phildadon86

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Not surprised because this roster is overrated. From top to bottom. Are we talented? Yes. Are we overrated and overhyped? Yes. We are the NFC Browns.
:facepalm: If this is true. The new coach shouldnt do better. If he does. You should come in here and apologize for spewing this nonsense on every single post whether its relevant or not.
 

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You have to be an idiot to think this isn't one of the 5 most talented teams in the NFL. The problem is that every deficiency they have is constantly exploited because they have the absolute worst coaching in the league. I don't think there's a team in sports with a more detrimental coaching staff.

The last line is what matters.

Serious talent deficiencies on defense and average QB play keep this team well out of top 5 status.

Guess I’m one of the many idiots who disagree with you.

Darn it.
 

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It's got sufficient talent to win the division and, with enough breaks, make some noise in January. But then so do a dozen or so other teams who won't be playing next month. What this roster is not is this loaded collection of talent some purport it to be.

Part of any business is selling. Few do it better than this family and I have to give them credit for it. It's just a shame the sales culture in Frisco is what drives the brand, not football excellence. It wasn't always so. I mean, the organization always leveraged brand equity, but it was at one time very much about the product on the field.

How is this roster different in that regard than the past two decades?

Jerry was talking Super Bowl during three consecutive 5-11 seasons under Campo.

Yep. I seem to recall the week prior to Quincy Carter's first start in 2001. We were heading into the opener vs. Tampa, one of the top NFC contenders at the time. Everyone knew Dallas was likely a cellar dweller again, but your favorite narcissist was swearing to anyone who would listen that this team was winning ten games. Mind you, this was Campo leading the charge with a ridiculously bad roster and this man was peddling that.

I don't know if that was just blind optimism (Jerry? Noooo!), delusion (Never!), or the offloading of snake oil.
 

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You have to be an idiot to think this isn't one of the 5 most talented teams in the NFL. The problem is that every deficiency they have is constantly exploited because they have the absolute worst coaching in the league. I don't think there's a team in sports with a more detrimental coaching staff.

The last line is what matters.
I am an idiot because I do not think this is a top 5 in the NFL or the NFC. I had them at 6 going into the season in the NFC and they're still there.

How do you judge talent? Based on potential or performance? Performance, for me.

And it's team, not individual players. It's the entire package including the DT's, LB's and S's on the D and the inconsistent OL and there's not a top 10 TE on the roster.

Most expected this D to be better because they expected the young players at LB and the secondary to improve, they didn't, they did not play as well as last year.
 

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Troy doesn't care anymore...he is well-established around the league/with the league, and with the media. He doesn't need to pull punches because he doesn't need Jerry like some of these other ex-Cowboys. I think Romo is headed that same way, probably even more so. Good for them.
 

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How is anyone surprised by this? Every off-season, Jerry says, "this" and "that." Everyone swallows it. The media takes it and talks about how great Dallas is going to be. Then by December, everyone does nothing but talk about how bad and over-rated they are. /rinserepeat

Jerry feeds everyone cheese so he can sell his product, and everyone eats it. Parcells and Jimmy were both very good at keeping their players grounded. We haven't seen that from a coach since they left. When Jerry's buying his team SB tickets before they've even played in the playoff game, he's contributing to their failure. Supposedly, Jerry was extremely mad after the home loss to the Giants that year and "heads were going to roll". We have all read that book how many times now? What's changed?
 

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:facepalm: If this is true. The new coach shouldnt do better. If he does. You should come in here and apologize for spewing this nonsense on every single post whether its relevant or not.

I said the team was talented. I agreed that it’s OVERRATED because it is, and Aikman and these “coaches” (who I think know more than you and I unless it’s Jason garrett) seem to agree. Dak is solid. He’s not elite. He isn’t with Mahomes or even Watson. Zeke is regressing. He’s still good, just not as good as he used to be. O-line? They’re great. Overpaid and overrated, but great. Not as good as the Ravens or even the 49ers. Defense was WAY overhyped coming into this season. Everyone thought we’d pick up from last year, but it regressed.

Garrett tanks our talent to the abyss. A new coach would lift this team up. I’m not apologizing for anything. It’s not nonsense. We are close to the Browns. A good team that looked good roster wise going into the season, but is unfortunately brought down by terrible coaching. What’s wrong with comparing the 2?

Edit: some people on this thread seem to agree we are overrated, yet I am the only one you call out?
 

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People always want one big reason—they REALLY suck at this, they’re the worst at that. I think it’s a combination of a whole lot of things, just a hair here, a sliver there, etc.

1)A few of the players are probably a little overrated.
2)An antiquated gap scheme on defense.
3)A country club culture.
4)Too many distractions.
5)Jerry’s meddling.
6)Poor coaching and adjustments.
7)Injuries
8)Bad officiating
9)Predictable playcalls
10)Freak plays, bad luck
 
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:facepalm: If this is true. The new coach shouldnt do better. If he does. You should come in here and apologize for spewing this nonsense on every single post whether its relevant or not.

If the roster isn’t improved especially on defense a new coach won’t do better.

Doesn’t mean Garrett should be kept. Saw the same thing with Kubiak here in HOUSTON. Everyone screaming to fire him which they did and the team nosedived the following season before recovering.

Don’t expect some miracle turn around if this roster is what’s put on the field next year. Hope for it but don’t expect it because make no mistake it’s going to be a new rebuild under a new HC regime.
 

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I honestly can't disagree with this. The problem is that Jerry won't hire a top notch coach and let him do what needs to be done. That includes hiring his own staff. As long as the Jones' own this team, it doesn't matter. Stephen will not be, and has not been, any better. The Jones' want a yes man and a puppet to rule over. They don't want somebody who's going to tell them to stay in the booth where they belong and stay the hell out of the coaching decisions.

One little problem with your statement.. You said that Jerry won't hire a top notch coach and that is BS. He hired Bill Parcells, and even though he was getting long in the tooth he was a fantastic coach. I don't want to hear excuses on how Jerry only hired him to get his new stadium because this isn't true. Bill was done, the fork was in him, and I'm sure having to deal with Jerry didn't help matters.

For you to assume that Jerry is incapable of hiring a coach and giving him adequate control of the team I have to disagree. At this point, if he hires another puppet and things don't pick up, this will be devastating for the product he is trying to sell. I honestly believe that there is a good chance that we see things go differently this time around if indeed Carrott is let go. This is rock bottom around Cowboys land right now bro, the media is ripping Jerry apart and Carrott is pretty much getting out of this scott free! When in the past was Jerry drilled so hard like this? Never! He was always able to deflect just enough to keep people off of his jock. Those days are over and the national media if finally disgusted nearly as much as we are here.
 

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All talent looks overrated when the talent has to compensate for the fact the opposing team knows what you’re doing
 

phildadon86

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If the roster isn’t improved especially on defense a new coach won’t do better.

Doesn’t mean Garrett should be kept. Saw the same thing with Kubiak here in HOUSTON. Everyone screaming to fire him which they did and the team nosedived the following season before recovering.

Don’t expect some miracle turn around if this roster is what’s put on the field next year. Hope for it but don’t expect it because make no mistake it’s going to be a new rebuild under a new HC regime.
Rebuild? No. The new coach will be installing his ideas and hopefully drafting players HE wants. Most of the talent on this team will be kept. You realize our offense is 1st right now right?
 

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If the roster isn’t improved especially on defense a new coach won’t do better.

Doesn’t mean Garrett should be kept. Saw the same thing with Kubiak here in HOUSTON. Everyone screaming to fire him which they did and the team nosedived the following season before recovering.

Don’t expect some miracle turn around if this roster is what’s put on the field next year. Hope for it but don’t expect it because make no mistake it’s going to be a new rebuild under a new HC regime.
i keep getting mocked because i believe JG isnt the main problem..

is it wrong to think its jerry!?!
 

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You have to be an idiot to think this isn't one of the 5 most talented teams in the NFL. The problem is that every deficiency they have is constantly exploited because they have the absolute worst coaching in the league. I don't think there's a team in sports with a more detrimental coaching staff.

The last line is what matters.
if you took out the first sentence I would agree with you 100%. But I would say that I agree with the last 2 whole heartedly. Theres alot of talent on this team but it can be debated just how much. Id say its overhyped a bit because of the team they play for
 
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