Having Witten and Lee on the roster near season's end is very telling

Pokes12 · Dec 13, 2019

Jipper said:
I think it could be argued that Lee has played as well or better the Smith or lve....witten is not as explosive as jarwin but he also has had a better year than many expected....

Why don't we talk about some of the secondary garbage players or our complete lack of any interior pass rush...

Totally agree with you.

links18 · Dec 13, 2019

GimmeTheBall! said:
My post in the preseason was met with much derision and fits.
The consensus was that Witten was a superb blocker, had excellent hands and was an on-field coach. (He said years ago he was not there to mentor.)

Also, that Lee's experience and work ethic would inspire the pups Jaylon and LVE and, again, that Lee would be an on-field coach.

I suspect that Jerry's love for these two fossils blinded him to what was in the team's best interests.

Imagine how much better Jarhead and Schultz would be with the snaps Witten wasted.
Imagine how we'd have developed other LBs without Lee taking a roster spot.

Rotten way to manage a team, this compassion for elders!
Having Witten and Lee on the roster was done with the heart, not the intellect, ruffians!
Any other team would have disposed of these two dinosaurs in 2017.

Witten (HC) and Lee (DC): your 2020 Dallas Cowboys coaching staff.

Future · Dec 13, 2019

AbeBeta said:
Both of them are playing for peanuts.

In case you hadn't noticed, we do actually need TEs to block and although I like Jarwin, he's basically a big WR

Witten can't block anymore.

Future · Dec 13, 2019

Jipper said:
I think it could be argued that Lee has played as well or better the Smith or lve....witten is not as explosive as jarwin but he also has had a better year than many expected....

Why don't we talk about some of the secondary garbage players or our complete lack of any interior pass rush...

Maliek Collins is third (last I checked) in pass-rush win rate amongst DTs. He's one of the best in the NFL at providing an interior passrush.

AbeBeta · Dec 13, 2019

Future said:
Witten can't block anymore.

Yes he's still 10 times the blocker that Jarwin is

dallasfan4lizife · Dec 13, 2019

AbeBeta said:
Both of them are playing for peanuts.

In case you hadn't noticed, we do actually need TEs to block and although I like Jarwin, he's basically a big WR

The problem is, Witten can’t block either. He’s been washed up for 6 years now. Not only is he a liability on offense, but he’s actively hurting the team by preventing us from grooming another TE.

Future · Dec 13, 2019

AbeBeta said:
Yes he's still 10 times the blocker that Jarwin is

Not really. And he's about 1/10th the receiver and in 2019 the receiver is 50x more important.

I'm not great at math, but it doesn't add up to Witten deserving more snaps than Jarwin.

Creeper · Dec 13, 2019

I think when the Cowboys lost Beasley, they felt they needed a guy who could get open and then decided that is Witten. Witten has has had a decent year, nothing special but he has made some big catches. So has Jarwin. I don't see why the Cowboys can't figure out how to give both TEs opportunities like the Eagles do with Ertz and Goedert. I don't think the Cowboys needed Witten to return this year, but he has not hurt them. He is a good blocker and he has limited his penalties this year.

Lee they needed. They still need him. Its too bad he can't stay healthy. He has had some good games and some not so good games, but that can be said for all the LBs. Lee had a monster game against the Giants, he looked like his old self. But he has lost a step and he is injured again.

We'll have to see what happens in the off season but its probably best for the Cowboys if they move on from both players. They will be missed.

pitt33 · Dec 13, 2019

khiladi said:
Dak leads the league in passing attempts and Dallas has allegedly become a passing offense.

And they talk about how they want to run the ball.

Yeah ok.

The coaching staff gets pass happy when they get down by 7 points. When your head coach and OC are former quarterbacks your team is going to be a passing team through and through.

805BoysInBlue · Dec 13, 2019

AbeBeta said:
You do know that TEs keep DEs off the QB too, right?

Oh, I guess you didn't because of the content of your post.

Witten has gotten blown up so many times that I lost count.

GimmeTheBall! · Dec 13, 2019

AbeBeta said:
You do know that TEs keep DEs off the QB too, right?

Oh, I guess you didn't because of the content of your post.

Fast TEs perhaps, but your blind love for the old, fat guy is commendable, junior.

Sarge · Dec 13, 2019

sunalsorises said:
When Jason Witten looks in the mirror nothing appears because there will never be another Jason Witten.

Fletch · Dec 13, 2019

GimmeTheBall! said:
My post in the preseason was met with much derision and fits.
The consensus was that Witten was a superb blocker, had excellent hands and was an on-field coach. (He said years ago he was not there to mentor.)

Also, that Lee's experience and work ethic would inspire the pups Jaylon and LVE and, again, that Lee would be an on-field coach.

I suspect that Jerry's love for these two fossils blinded him to what was in the team's best interests.

Imagine how much better Jarhead and Schultz would be with the snaps Witten wasted.
Imagine how we'd have developed other LBs without Lee taking a roster spot.

Rotten way to manage a team, this compassion for elders!
Having Witten and Lee on the roster was done with the heart, not the intellect, ruffians!
Any other team would have disposed of these two dinosaurs in 2017.

cowboyec · Dec 13, 2019

sunalsorises said:
When Jason Witten looks in the mirror nothing appears because there will never be another Jason Witten.

Runwildboys · Dec 13, 2019

Aven8 said:
I’m beginning to think Witt is just bad luck.

Why, did we win the SB when he was gone?

Runwildboys · Dec 13, 2019

rocyaice said:
Lee has been decent. What happened with Witten is exactly what a lot of us hoped wouldn’t happen with him and it did. Wayyyyyyy too many reps.

Ironic that Lee was needed to play for an injured player, isn't it?

charron · Dec 13, 2019

GimmeTheBall! said:
My post in the preseason was met with much derision and fits.
The consensus was that Witten was a superb blocker, had excellent hands and was an on-field coach. (He said years ago he was not there to mentor.)

Also, that Lee's experience and work ethic would inspire the pups Jaylon and LVE and, again, that Lee would be an on-field coach.

I suspect that Jerry's love for these two fossils blinded him to what was in the team's best interests.

Imagine how much better Jarhead and Schultz would be with the snaps Witten wasted.
Imagine how we'd have developed other LBs without Lee taking a roster spot.

Rotten way to manage a team, this compassion for elders!
Having Witten and Lee on the roster was done with the heart, not the intellect, ruffians!
Any other team would have disposed of these two dinosaurs in 2017.

How did jarwin and Schultz do last year before witten? They sucked that's how They did. Jarwin had only 27 catches last year and you can't blame old man witten.

Zordon · Dec 13, 2019

We're 2 weeks away from 2020 and still relying on Jason Witten. Does this sound like a competent organization? Seriously just think about that for a second.

buybuydandavis · Dec 13, 2019

rocyaice said:
Lee has been decent. What happened with Witten is exactly what a lot of us hoped wouldn’t happen with him and it did. Wayyyyyyy too many reps.

Witten is the bridge player for Schultz, the balanced TE. The problem at TE seems to be that Schultz blows, so Witten keeps playing.

We spent lots of time and roster spots on Schultz and Rico, and with that not paying off, we're short on TE talent.

gimmesix · Dec 13, 2019

big dog cowboy said:
There are bigger issues on the Cowboys that need fixed before JWit and Lee.

Starting at HC.

Yes, I don't know why some choose to attack these two players who've given us a lot of good years. Sure they are on the back end of their careers and are not as good as they once were, but we're not 6-7 because we're playing Lee instead of some rookie or Witten instead of Schultz.

Having Witten and Lee on the roster near season's end is very telling

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