Greg Roman For Next HC?

xwalker said:

I think they've already decided on Meyer but would anybody be opposed to Raven's OC Greg Roman?

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I wouldn't be opposed if I thought Jerry would respect him. Jerry only respects, and even then only to a degree, established head coaches who have won titles (Jimmy, Tuna, etc.).

First time HCs (Gailey, Campo, JG) and old men hoping for one more chance (Wade) get the puppet treatment.

conner01 said:

Personally I prefer a experienced nfl guy myself
I would also prefer a defensive guy
But Roman has shown he’s capable of adapting to the players he has rather than forcing players to adapt to his system

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I like that Roman comes from a team that has a long history of strong defenses so I'm sure a stout DC would be on his list of people to bring with him

shabazz said:

I like that Roman comes from a team that has a long history of strong defenses so I'm sure a stout DC would be on his list of people to bring with him

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I think he sees that a great defense is needed to win in the games that matter
If he could duplicate what the ravens have done for decades I’d be pretty happy
I really like that his offense is dictated by what he has in players rather than a philosophy of what he wants to do
Many guys like Garrett think they can win with a system rather than players and designing a system that fits them

What exactly would he design here that would be so great? I'm sure it would be better than what we have, but Dak isn't in Jackson's universe as an athlete. RG3 is twice the athlete Dak is, and that offense looked completely different -- meaning terrible -- as soon as he came in the game.

xwalker said:

I think they've already decided on Meyer but would anybody be opposed to Raven's OC Greg Roman?

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Been asking for this for about a month lol. I'd love to have Greg Roman here.

xwalker said:

I think they've already decided on Meyer but would anybody be opposed to Raven's OC Greg Roman?

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He has been my candidate since all the new coach talk started. I do not want a college coach....

conner01 said:

I think he sees that a great defense is needed to win in the games that matter
If he could duplicate what the ravens have done for decades I’d be pretty happy
I really like that his offense is dictated by what he has in players rather than a philosophy of what he wants to do
Many guys like Garrett think they can win with a system rather than players and designing a system that fits them

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and as to Dakota, I can see a hybrid plan thats used for Lamar Jackson. A plan that involves more passing than Jackson does but more strategic runs by Dak which should have been included this season. It can work if our defense gets some teeth

0 interest in Roman.

He's only good with an elite running QB. Dak is a good runner, but not in the class of Kaep/Lamar or even Tyrod.

Chocolate Lab said:

What exactly would he design here that would be so great? I'm sure it would be better than what we have, but Dak isn't in Jackson's universe as an athlete. RG3 is twice the athlete Dak is, and that offense looked completely different -- meaning terrible -- as soon as he came in the game.

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There is no other Jackson but I think if you look at how he used Alex smith it would be more like that
I don’t want a QB running as much as Jackson because it rarely means a healthy QB over time
But a QB running some puts pressure on a defense

conner01 said:

Personally I prefer a experienced nfl guy myself
I would also prefer a defensive guy
But Roman has shown he’s capable of adapting to the players he has rather than forcing players to adapt to his system

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This isn't true. He was awful in Buffalo and SF trying to run his offense with less mobile QBs.

His entire offense is predicated on making a defender commit to the QB running - and generally losing that matchup - to free up space for the running game elsewhere. It doesn't work when you don't have a gifted runner at QB, which is why his best offense is with Lamar, but it was poopy with Alex Smith. You can't build a Greg Roman offense with, say, Kirk Cousins as your QB.

Future said:

This isn't true. He was awful in Buffalo and SF trying to run his offense with less mobile QBs.

His entire offense is predicated on making a defender commit to the QB running - and generally losing that matchup - to free up space for the running game elsewhere. It doesn't work when you don't have a gifted runner at QB, which is why his best offense is with Lamar, but it was poopy with Alex Smith. You can't build a Greg Roman offense with, say, Kirk Cousins as your QB.

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I would say he was pretty successful at SF myself

conner01 said:

I would say he was pretty successful at SF myself

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Yea, with Kaep - a running QB who can execute Roman's system. The offense was awful with Alex Smith.

I think in normal NFL circles, Greg Roman is considered the more desirable candidate.
Meyer is not even mentioned by most teams. Not because he isn't great, but because he isn't considered a realistic candidate.

Also, if everyone would go back and look at his interview that made everyone think he wanted to come here, I think he was directly referring to and discussing Lincoln Riley, and what he would do if he was Riley.
Not the same thing.

We are missing one important ingredient. Dak Prescott is no Lamar Jackson. Lamar is a qb that runs and throws at a high level. Dak still has footwork issues in the pocket and he has forgotten how to run.

xwalker said:

I think they've already decided on Meyer but would anybody be opposed to Raven's OC Greg Roman?

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I’d take him in a heartbeat. I like Urban too.

Absolutely not.

Running an offensive scheme is not the same as being a head coach, especially with the Dallas culture.

He would be a dismal failure. I happen to like him a lot and he might end up okay, but never in Dallas.

I would absolutely be good with him...but need a bigger ego voice in the job to manage FO interference. Those ding dongs already proved you can’t trust them with any near success at all...they’ll blow it. So you need a big name to comfort Jerry’s mind,otherwise he’ll do what he did with Garrett. Manage the staff...and how you wind up with 2 dc’s and 2 oc’s on sidelines etc.

D_Boyz said:

Everyone's said it before on every coaching thread bro....ANYBODY BUT GARRETT! So yes I'd love for him to be here. The way he rebuilt the offense for Lamar is amazing. A lot of people forget that Lamar got the playbook after april sometime and didnt even know they were changing the playbook. That's pretty amazing.

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Anybody but Garrett doesn't work for me, that is how you get stuck with another Wade Gump.

xwalker said:

I think they've already decided on Meyer but would anybody be opposed to Raven's OC Greg Roman?

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From a strictly coaching standpoint, no.

In Dallas, yes. First, Roman is not going to get the Joneses to step back from football operations, which will ultimately limit his potential impact. This hire screams for an experienced head coach with skins on the wall, otherwise it will be rinse and repeat.

this subject has been brought up several times over, ..and seems it will continue to be so, so long as viewing audiences are wow-mesmerized by Lamar Jackson's MVP like productivity
with the Ravens.
in their eyes: when they see Lamar, they apparently see Dak .... and they drool to have that kind of productivity and explosion in this Cowboys offense.

what they are not getting is Dak is not that kind of explosive running QB. Dak is a different kind of mobile QB.
His mobility is more similar to Russell Wilson. And Russell and Dak use their mobility to scramble away from pressure in an uneven field to get additional yards up field

and they are reserved in how they run, they don't run and take on big body tacklers the way you see a Lamar, or a Colin Kapernick did under Greg Roman offense.
You see Russell and Dak run out of bounds, or sliding to ground to as precaution to protect their bodies.

When you do see them occasionally big run against tacklers, it's always in RPO's to try to sneak that surprise big run, including around the ground line.

I do admit that I want to see the offense under Dak using his mobility expand the passing game to be more than just a pocket passer- he's great rolling out to his left and shooting it downfield.
but I'm more for that mobility to create passing plays ... vs running plays.