Jerry's going to do something butt crazy with the next coaching hire

CouchCoach · Dec 13, 2019

noshame said:
I honestly believe this time it's different. He knows his days on this earth are numbered, he cannot wait 5 years to see another failure. He will make a good hire, and most importantly back off a bit.

Are we talking about the same guy here?

nightrain · Dec 13, 2019

johneric8 said:
May I ask you what gives you this impression? A common understanding of the situation here in which Jerry is the laughing stock of the sports world tells us otherwise. Please enlighten me
on some reason why now would be the time for Jerry to promote someone vastly experienced for the head coaching job? Don't try and use the "Jerry needs an easy scapegoat" excuse either,
that is too easy.

Been swept up with the Jerry Jones Cowboys since inception. Jerry is one of the more counterintuitive executives I have ever observed. What makes anyone think Jerry listens to critics or is willing to go along with consensus thinking? I haven't seen it in 30 years. The Jason Garrett error is a prime example of my way or the highway control to a fault.

CouchCoach · Dec 13, 2019

Hawkeye0202 said:
Same here but damn, I'm liking what I'm finding so far (lol).

So will CAR and might be willing to give him more control. He's not getting that with DAL and probably not with NYG unless they change GM's.

CouchCoach · Dec 13, 2019

nightrain said:
Been swept up with the Jerry Jones Cowboys since inception. Jerry is one of the more counterintuitive executives I have ever observed. What makes anyone think Jerry listens to critics or is willing to go along with consensus thinking? I haven't seen it in 30 years. The Jason Garrett error is a prime example of my way or the highway control to a fault.

To study this guy, no one can come to any conclusion but this.

Think about any executive in a position to do whatever he wants and he can't screw it up. They don't make decisions based on what they want to do but on what they need or have to do and when has he done that since he hired Parcells to get the stadium deal done?

I don't think posters here realize just how bulletproof he is and why eh was willing to back off and hire Parcells. The reward was never having to do that again.

The new HC will be hired with the comfort of the GM in mind as the first requirement. He is never going back to those Parcells days.

johneric8 · Dec 13, 2019

nightrain said:
Been swept up with the Jerry Jones Cowboys since inception. Jerry is one of the more counterintuitive executives I have ever observed. What makes anyone think Jerry listens to critics or is willing to go along with consensus thinking? I haven't seen it in 30 years. The Jason Garrett error is a prime example of my way or the highway control to a fault.

Yes, I've been a fan since the 70's with a household full of Cowboy fans, so I know a thing or two about the ups and downs of this organization. When Jerry hired Bill Parcells it was an admittance that unproven coaches didn't work, and after Wade Phillips, Jerry realized that the trend was to go with a young hot shot and unfortunately for us fans he picked Jason Garrett whom proved to far from a talent as a head coach. When Jerry's back is against the wall, and it is, he has proven to do exactly what you say he won't do and that is change things up. For Jerry to go with another unproven coach would be going against his very track record.

What Jerry's track record does suggest is he will circle back the wagon and try another college hot shot if you ask me! This is what his tendencies show at this point and I think you know that. To even try a throw out some clown reference like he will promote Kellen or hire some unknown is slightly above trolling ...

cern · Dec 13, 2019

CouchCoach said:
To study this guy, no one can come to any conclusion but this.

Think about any executive in a position to do whatever he wants and he can't screw it up. They don't make decisions based on what they want to do but on what they need or have to do and when has he done that since he hired Parcells to get the stadium deal done?

I don't think posters here realize just how bulletproof he is and why eh was willing to back off and hire Parcells. The reward was never having to do that again.

The new HC will be hired with the comfort of the GM in mind as the first requirement. He is never going back to those Parcells days.

to be certain, guaranteed income money stream allows jerry to screw the pooch often. but I believe with every fiber/fibre of my being he has finally come to terms with the fact 25+ years of failure are on him and he now wants to win more than anything else. i'll get on my knees and pray we won't get fooled again. nobody left to crown.

CouchCoach · Dec 13, 2019

johneric8 said:
Yes, I've been a fan since the 70's with a household full of Cowboy fans, so I know a thing or two about the ups and downs of this organization. When Jerry hired Bill Parcells it was an admittance that unproven coaches didn't work, and after Wade Phillips, Jerry realized that the trend was to go with a young hot shot and unfortunately for us fans he picked Jason Garrett whom proved to far from a talent as a head coach. When Jerry's back is against the wall, and it is, he has proven to do exactly what you say he won't do and that is change things up. For Jerry to go with another unproven coach would be going against his very track record.

What Jerry's track record does suggest is he will circle back the wagon and try another college hot shot if you ask me! This is what his tendencies show at this point and I think you know that. To even try a throw out some clown reference like he will promote Kellen or hire some unknown is slightly above trolling ...

You are aware that the hiring of Parcells was a calculated move with an ulterior motive? Even Booger has admitted that, he needed cred to get the stadium he wanted and wasn't getting the loan with 3 5-11's in a row.

He doesn't HAVE to do anything now, he can still do what he wants to do and not feel anything on the ledger and he knows it. He could hire Roseanne Barr as HC and still sell it out.

CouchCoach · Dec 13, 2019

cern said:
to be certain, guaranteed income money stream allows jerry to screw the pooch often. but I believe with every fiber/fibre of my being he has finally come to terms with the fact 25+ years of failure are on him and he now wants to win more than anything else. i'll get on my knees and pray we won't get fooled again. nobody left to crown.

I wish I could agree but this is not a man that does what he has to do, he does what he wants to do. People do not change without the proper circumstances and that is not present with Booger. Hire the right HC or sell the boat, maybe that works?

There are two parts to this hiring. First the guy, will he get any power or is this the honeymoon stage and when he comes back to the harsh reality that is Booger, how will he handle that?

Parcells once said that managing Booger was part of the job but even that didn't work as he brought in the last player that Parcells would have ever wanted on his team. He failed to keep Booger from himself but then Booger already had what he wanted so he could have cared less.

nightrain · Dec 13, 2019

johneric8 said:
Yes, I've been a fan since the 70's with a household full of Cowboy fans, so I know a thing or two about the ups and downs of this organization. When Jerry hired Bill Parcells it was an admittance that unproven coaches didn't work, and after Wade Phillips, Jerry realized that the trend was to go with a young hot shot and unfortunately for us fans he picked Jason Garrett whom proved to far from a talent as a head coach. When Jerry's back is against the wall, and it is, he has proven to do exactly what you say he won't do and that is change things up. For Jerry to go with another unproven coach would be going against his very track record.

What Jerry's track record does suggest is he will circle back the wagon and try another college hot shot if you ask me! This is what his tendencies show at this point and I think you know that. To even try a throw out some clown reference like he will promote Kellen or hire some unknown is slightly above trolling ...

snagged you, didn't I? ; )

nightrain · Dec 13, 2019

CouchCoach said:
To study this guy, no one can come to any conclusion but this.

Think about any executive in a position to do whatever he wants and he can't screw it up. They don't make decisions based on what they want to do but on what they need or have to do and when has he done that since he hired Parcells to get the stadium deal done?

I don't think posters here realize just how bulletproof he is and why eh was willing to back off and hire Parcells. The reward was never having to do that again.

The new HC will be hired with the comfort of the GM in mind as the first requirement. He is never going back to those Parcells days.

Jerry is making money hand over fist and that is the conquest he desires to pursue most. The man has made billions from a mediocre product. Can't say that about too many other people on earth.

ShiningStar · Dec 13, 2019

There is a bad coach in the NFL and College ranks, high fiving each other saying "We got a chance"

Mannix · Dec 13, 2019

Why doesn't Jerry realize that 25 years could soon be forgotten if he hires Meyer...but if he pulls the same crap again, with a puppet, he will be instantly vilified all over again. This time, probably until he is gone.

ShiningStar · Dec 13, 2019

Mannix said:
Why doesn't Jerry realize that 25 years could soon be forgotten if he hires Meyer...but if he pulls the same crap again, with a puppet, he will be instantly vilified all over again. This time, probably until he is gone.

hes banking the base wont leave, money rules in his mind. and as you can tell from this web page alone, majority loves its mediocrity.

Diehardblues · Dec 13, 2019

stasheroo said:
See, I don't. Because if it was about that, Parcells could have and would have easily gotten another head coaching job. He was done and never coached again. He was done with the grind and the schedule that job demanded.

But then he immediately took the VP job at Miami.

I’d agree he had enough of coaching and why he was already retired. Basically came back to do Jerry a favor.

IceStar-D7 · Dec 13, 2019

Butt crazy????? Like name himself head coach. :facepalm:

johneric8 · Dec 13, 2019

CouchCoach said:
You are aware that the hiring of Parcells was a calculated move with an ulterior motive? Even Booger has admitted that, he needed cred to get the stadium he wanted and wasn't getting the loan with 3 5-11's in a row.

He doesn't HAVE to do anything now, he can still do what he wants to do and not feel anything on the ledger and he knows it. He could hire Roseanne Barr as HC and still sell it out.

Couch, instead of disagreeing with you let me present this to you for the sake of another angle. I know that it's easy to cherry pick and just point fingers at Jerry for wanting a new stadium, but there is much more to the story. Bill Parcells was also hired to RESTORE credibility to the cowboys and after he did so he was indeed expendable.

I honestly see the Cowboys right back where they we're after Chan Gailey and Dave Campo. Those were two horrible head coaches and the star was tarnished, so bring in parcells. Both Gailey and Campo made up of about 5 years of a failed experiment and Jones was ready for the boys to be competitive again. Of course after Parecells comes wade phillips for 4 years and Garrett for 9 years. That is 13 years of dysfunction after parcells, so to assume that Jerry isn't ready for a real coach after 13 years of doing it his way and failing is ludicrous.

I think if you look at history, and just how dysfunctional things have become it's not as easy to just assume Jerry is going after another puppet.

Diehardblues · Dec 13, 2019

nightrain said:
Jerry is making money hand over fist and that is the conquest he desires to pursue most. The man has made billions from a mediocre product. Can't say that about too many other people on earth.

Our country is full of men who have created mediocre products , companies and service who have made billions. Think about the places and things you eat , drink and shop . Iconic labels just like the Cowboys in American culture often the most popular but not the best.

TheSkaven · Dec 13, 2019

My biggest fear is that these Jack Del Rio rumors won’t go away. I could see him hiring Del Rio or Jon Fox and setting us back 10 years.

Proof · Dec 13, 2019

i don't care if he hires three toddlers in a trenchcoat if it means it's not Garrett.

Tabascocat · Dec 13, 2019

I have changed my mind, don’t want Jerry to hire a new HC. It would make my Christmas to hear Jerry announce that he is moving down to the sidelines. He will don a gray tracksuit, a fedora and maybe grow a mustache. The ensemble wouldn’t be complete without some very dark shades and a blue whistle.

We are talking full-blown Al Davis but taken even further. Can you imagine the entertainment factor in that alone? Come on Jerry, make it happen.......you know he wants too :lmao:

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