My Thoughts on Dak's contract

LatinMind

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No, I am not proving your point. Giving the run a chance should not exist in the NFL.

What exists for effective offenses is taking advantage of the defensive alignment. Committing to the run for the sake of committing to the run is a death sentence.

If a team is playing 8 in the box (or 7 against 11 personnel) every snap, you should almost never hand the ball off.

Running on 1st and 10 or, even worse, 2nd and 10, with the goal of establishing the run is the worst offensive strategy in football. Dallas does that in spades.
When this team actually game plans a run it works, like the first drive thats scripted. This is why this coaching staff is bout to be fired.
 

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When this team actually game plans a run it works, like the first drive thats scripted. This is why this coaching staff is bout to be fired.
The first drives against Buffalo and Chicago worked because of the passing game. More specifically, because it punished those defenses for lining up specifically to stop the run game.

Gameplanning to run the ball, independent of what the defense does, is what costs you games like New Orleans. It also puts you behind the sticks, like it did several times against Chicago and Buffalo.

A concerted effort to establish the run is the dumbest thing an offense can do in today's NFL. The only gameplan that matters is exploiting numbers on defense. Defenses are too good and too fast to run into negative fronts and expect to have any success.
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.

Totally agreed. We would have the same record with any of these guys ... without the huge contract Dak wants. We're 6-7 with Dak making $400K. Imagine what our team would look like after paying him $35mil ???
 

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In cap hits. Everytime he was scheduled to be over 10mil they would restructure. And it worked.

2014, and 2015 he was supposed to be that 10mil but they restructured both yrs.

2017 was the only yr he was over 10mil at 10.7mil but he was retired.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/tony-romo-2447/cash-earnings/

You're overthinking it here (I hope) and completely overlooking a fundamental component of the cap.

I'm not joking or trying to insult, I just think you've zoomed in a bit too far to see the entire picture.

I highlighted a word in your post. Think about what it really means in terms of future cap ramifications and in terms of why the link you have provided doesn't account for those ramifications.
 

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You're overthinking it here (I hope) and completely overlooking a fundamental component of the cap.

I'm not joking or trying to insult, I just think you've zoomed in a bit too far to see the entire picture.

I highlighted a word in your post. Think about what it really means in terms of future cap ramifications and in terms of why the link you have provided doesn't account for those ramifications.
I think ur the one overthinking. I just used Romo as an example of the team knowing how manipulate the cap when they needed to. The way they operate now is not the same.

This post was and is about 2 options i think would be good for the Cowboys and Dak. One being a long term deal that would turn out to be 2 deals in 1 for basically a decade. The other would be a compromise if Dak truely wants a shorter deal. More money in a 4 yr period than both Goff and Wentz but at a lower cap hit yearly
 

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I think ur the one overthinking. I just used Romo as an example of the team knowing how manipulate the cap when they needed to. The way they operate now is not the same.

This post was and is about 2 options i think would be good for the Cowboys and Dak. One being a long term deal that would turn out to be 2 deals in 1 for basically a decade. The other would be a compromise if Dak truely wants a shorter deal. More money in a 4 yr period than both Goff and Wentz but at a lower cap hit yearly

Wow, you actually don't understand how the cap works. Little shocked, if only because you've been around for so long. Restructured money is prorated. Your link only shows what was earned in any given year. That is not the same as a cap charge. Romo's cap number exceeded $10M multiple times. 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. It was $20.8M in 2016, and it would have been $24.7M in 2017, had he played.
 

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Here are some notable FA quarterbacks coming in 2020 -
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Ryan Tannehill
Case Keenum
Teddy Bridgewater

Dak Prescott is in that class of quarterbacks. It's a buyers market for quarterbacks of Dak's caliber. Let him become a FA and pick the cheapest of the bunch and draft a quarterback high and develop him. The team can go 7-9 and 9-7 with any one of those quarterbacks without the requirement of that kind of contract.
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Wow, you actually don't understand how the cap works. Little shocked, if only because you've been around for so long. Restructured money is prorated. Your link only shows what was earned in any given year. That is not the same as a cap charge. Romo's cap number exceeded $10M multiple times. 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. It was $20.8M in 2016, and it would have been $24.7M in 2017, had he played.
Wow, you actually don't understand how the cap works. Little shocked, if only because you've been around for so long. Restructured money is prorated. Your link only shows what was earned in any given year. That is not the same as a cap charge. Romo's cap number exceeded $10M multiple times. 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. It was $20.8M in 2016, and it would have been $24.7M in 2017, had he played.

APR 1 2015Coverted $16 million of his 2015 salary into bonus, clearing $12.8 million in 2015 cap space with Dallas (DAL)
MAR 4 2014Restructured $12.5M of his 2014 base salary with Dallas (DAL)

Ok i was wrong about 2013, and 2015

in 2014 after his restructure his base was 1mil and add his 5mil prorated SB and the 2,5mil restructured base = 8.5 caphit for 2014.


2010 he was over 10mil by 750k.

The point still being the cowboys have messe
Wow, you actually don't understand how the cap works. Little shocked, if only because you've been around for so long. Restructured money is prorated. Your link only shows what was earned in any given year. That is not the same as a cap charge. Romo's cap number exceeded $10M multiple times. 2010, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. It was $20.8M in 2016, and it would have been $24.7M in 2017, had he played.

Im wrong, i forgot about the prorated SB in yrs 13-15. Which put him over 10mil in 13 and 15. 2014 he was under because Dallas sent most of his base salary in 2014 as Bonus which got prorated. He ended up with a 1.5 base, 5mil prorated and 2.5mil prorated restructured bonus. 9mil cap hit.

would haves dont matter because it was a foregone conclusion Romo was done in 2015 when he went down, came back in 2016 and 1 hit not even a big hit his body was done. Dallas knew this because they made multiple attempts to draft a replacement even before they got Dak in the 4th.

My point being Dallas has always been good at creating structured deals to get money from it. They basically showed the league how to do this. Now they dont operate like this anymore. Theyre not paying aging veterans big money anymore.
 

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Non exclusive franchise tag for an next year is $25-26 million.

tagging him again in 2021 will carry a 20% premium at $30-31 million.
 

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The sticking point seems to be Dallas wants a long term contract over 6 yrs. Dak's team is pushing for a 4 yr deal. The agents want that guaranteed money. Dallas wants the long term deal to be able to restructure and keep him happy with more guaranteed money.

Offer 1
If i was the team i would go to Dak's team with two offers. One for 10 yrs says 350mil 100 mil guranteed. And say after yr 4 you go back and you restructure to get more guranteed money to Dak and lower the cap adding money as a signing bonus and prorating that for the final 5 yrs of the deal. In a situation like this he will never make over say 33-35mil a yr, and never really cripples the cap especially the way the cap is going up.

Offer 2
4yrs 120mil fully guaranteed. Dak will make a ton of money in 4 yrs and be at a lower yrly avg then Wentz and Goff and Wilson but will make his money and with the ability to score again in 4 yrs. In that time Dallas could find his eventual replacement if hes not still producing. In 4 yrs he would make 4mil less then what Romo made his entire career.
Both offers make a ton of sense!
Great Post !
 
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