Are you guys satisfied with Dak's running yet?

Bullflop · Dec 14, 2019

Nav22 said:
Dak’s a very physical runner who isn’t afraid of contact, but he’s not very fast.

The more times he runs, the more times he gets hit and the more likely it is that he gets hurt.

That's a very factual call, in my opinion. Despite his success as a runner upon occasion, he shouldn't be saddled with an excess of attempts in that option. He'll deal out pain to those trying to stop him but will likely receive the same in return. I think he's on the right path in that regard, right now. An occasional run will probably catch the opposition unguarded. More of it would only expose him to needless risk.

xwalker · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
Hum..

Situational football?

Evety down is situational.

Figure it out and dictate the situation.

I like what you are trying to say..

so are you satisfied with Daks running overall?

Adequate or lacking or needs work.?

That's my question.

The 2019 Cowboys have great stats in many areas but have failed in situational football, primarily due to coaching.

I think Parcells listed situation football as one of his top 3 priorities when he took the Cowboys job.

G2 · Dec 14, 2019

While I do think a couple plays per game should be specifically designed for Prescott to run, he's NOT an elite running QB like Jackson. They're built different and it would be insane to run him the same. I'm willing to bet Jackson doesn't have the durability to be an elite runner long term.

loublue22 · Dec 14, 2019

to compare Dak and Lamar is laughable, Dak is an enormous guy and not particularly quick or fast, he's mobile in the sense that he's not a statue but his value as a runner comes really only in short yardage situations or scrambles where there is no one in front of him

Ranching · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

He's not a runner. Stereotypes are not good.

Runwildboys · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

He's had plenty of opportunities to run, in which he would've gotten more yards than Zeke, but he chose to give it to Zeke. I don't think you can blame Moore when he's giving Dak the option and Dak just isn't taking it.

Runwildboys · Dec 14, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
Dak is the best he'll be right now in terms of running. I'm not sure why everyone is so fixated on it. He has some mobility and some power running, and that has helped in games, but he's not Jackson and Wilson.

No, he's not the runner those guys are. But he's had his chances to gain first downs or better many times, but he chooses to hand it to Zeke or try to force the ball into a tight window.

Runwildboys · Dec 14, 2019

loublue22 said:
to compare Dak and Lamar is laughable, Dak is an enormous guy and not particularly quick or fast, he's mobile in the sense that he's not a statue but his value as a runner comes really only in short yardage situations or scrambles where there is no one in front of him

And there have been quite a few plays in which there was nobody in front of him, but he still didn't run.

CB61 · Dec 14, 2019

NO and I think his lack of running has hurt his ability if you know what I mean? It's almost like he has forgotten how to run and there's time she needs to not necessarily planning at but he's back to making those bad decisions about hanging in the pocket too long if he took off and ran it might be a different outcome of the play

mattjames2010 · Dec 14, 2019

Runwildboys said:
No, he's not the runner those guys are. But he's had his chances to gain first downs or better many times, but he chooses to hand it to Zeke or try to force the ball into a tight window.

It might LOOK like he has a chance, but I think Dak understands his speed - linebackers are pretty athletic and close in in a hurry. I just don't think he's a guy that can make yards running, he'll need an open lane and maybe when he gets a one on one out in the open, he can stiff arm and gain some extra yards.

He's already done this. That's why I'm saying, this is about his peak in terms of running. I mean, on 75 runs last year, he only had 305 yards. He's just not that much of a threat on the ground, a little below prime Rodgers in terms of scrambling/running.

Runwildboys · Dec 14, 2019

mattjames2010 said:
It might LOOK like he has a chance, but I think Dak understands his speed - linebackers are pretty athletic and close in in a hurry. I just don't think he's a guy that can make yards running, he'll need an open lane and maybe when he gets a one on one out in the open, he can stiff arm and gain some extra yards.

He's already done this. That's why I'm saying, this is about his peak in terms of running. I mean, on 75 runs last year, he only had 305 yards. He's just not that much of a threat on the ground, a little below prime Rodgers in terms of scrambling/running.

I'm not saying he can take it to the house, but there are times, for instance, when he fakes a keeper, but hands it to Zeke, and everyone goes after Zeke who gets a couple of yards at best. Had Dak kept some of those, I'm certain he'd have gotten at least 6 or 7, and it would've opened the running lanes for Zeke in following plays, IMO. That's the other side of it...just putting enough hesitation in the defense to allow Zeke a little more space to run.

Redball Express · Dec 14, 2019

xwalker said:
The 2019 Cowboys have great stats in many areas but have failed in situational football, primarily due to coaching.

I think Parcells listed situation football as one of his top 3 priorities when he took the Cowboys job.

I understand and always appreciate the time you have to post answers.

Parcells other than Tom and Jimster were my favorite HCs.

Very sorry when he left. Wish we had him a little longer.

When he left he left Romo undeveloped and that played out for years with an unsatisfactory end.

Now we need to finish Daks future but not sure who out there wants that along with putting up with the Jones meddling.

It has to be someone who wants a pro football title on their resume.

Not sure who wants it bad enough.

What is your take on that?

blueblood70 · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

wrong hes not Jackson hes not that fast, doesnt have the moves in the open field and will get killed..

maybe something closer to what Dak used to do, taKE IT MORE ON RPOS or when the openings there, noone going to be Lamar..we cant run that offense as look at Russell Wilson hes a dual threat but passing is what he wants to do first but runs to make a defense pay..

RW always been Daks comp anyway, so et him study tape of RW the last 7 years..thats who he kis closest too as a QB..

blueblood70 · Dec 14, 2019

xwalker said:
How many Lamar Jackson style QBs have won a Super Bowl?

Russell Wilson only runs slightly more than Dak.

Steve Young is probably the SB winner that ran the most but he was still more of a scrambler than QB/RB type.

Staubach was a great scrambler but not a "running QB" per se.

Cam Newton got to the Super Bowl and lost to (at that point in time) a statue with minimal remaining arm strength.

Brady makes avoiding sacks and avoiding getting hit a top priority and that's not a new concept for him.

RG3 looked like the next Mega-Star but he ran too much and didn't have a Cam Newton body (Cam is bigger than LBs). RG didn't develop as a passer and master of passing game concepts in part because he could always tuck and run when he needed to until he couldn't...

actually Wilson runs a lot more over the years , hes got like 4k in 7 years and while not using it as much as Lamar and Cam, RW runs a lot more then we remember and does it efficiently..

no one will be Lamar hes way fast and way agile hes lie an elite WR in the open filed, can juke like starting rb , and throws decently..

I think Dak can run more and closer to what RW does..

xwalker · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
I understand and always appreciate the time you have to post answers.

Parcells other than Tom and Jimster were my favorite HCs.

Very sorry when he left. Wish we had him a little longer.

When he left he left Romo undeveloped and that played out for years with an unsatisfactory end.

Now we need to finish Daks future but not sure who out there wants that along with putting up with the Jones meddling.

It has to be someone who wants a pro football title on their resume.

Not sure who wants it bad enough.

What is your take on that?

Dak is more developed than Romo was at the point Parcells departed.

I don't think the new HC has to have NFL experience.

Jimmy didn't and he inherited a far bigger mess than the 2020 Cowboys HC will inherit.

I do think it needs to be a strong personality type HC with skins on the wall.

Urban Meyer just seems like the best fit to me unless they can get Belichick or Sean Payton..

Ron Rivera would be a safe choice.

Lincoln Riley is a swing for the fences choice. He might be better than the rest but he might get overwhelmed by the job and everything that goes with it. I don't know if he would take the job if offered.

Redball Express · Dec 14, 2019

blueblood70 said:
wrong hes not Jackson hes not that fast, doesnt have the moves in the open field and will get killed..

maybe something closer to what Dak used to do, taKE IT MORE ON RPOS or when the openings there, noone going to be Lamar..we cant run that offense as look at Russell Wilson hes a dual threat but passing is what he wants to do first but runs to make a defense pay..

RW always been Daks comp anyway, so et him study tape of RW the last 7 years..thats who he kis closest too as a QB..

Well..

Each QB in the NFL has their own signature.

How would you define Daks?

I define it as slow starting and inconsistent.

After 4 years he has one victory over the Seahawks which is over quality competition.

That's it. Detroit was not quality.

So after 4 years he is starting to look like another Romo.

He talks the talk like Tony did but in big games and failed to win. If this continues..

we will be in his 5th year.

Unsettling to me as a long time fan.

Just me.

Millage may vary for others but I do not want to grind out another QB project.

If Garrett goes in 2019 I would prefer saving Daks contract for another QB the new coach wants to develop.

I mean we are not married to him, we can let him go and let him test his market.

It's not being evil or negative.

We have surrounded him with more than any franchise possibly could like the RB, OL and WRs but still he is not getting it done.

Time to be very careful right now.

The media is just chomping for us to max out all these huge contracts and crucify us for being the fools.

Enough.

:angry:

blueblood70 · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
Well..

Each QB in the NFL has their own signature.

How would you define Daks?

I define it as slow starting and inconsistent.

After 4 years he has one victory over the Seahawks which is over quality competition.

That's it. Detroit was not quality.

So after 4 years he is starting to look like another Romo.

He talks the talk like Tony did but in big games and failed to win. If this continues..

we will be in his 5th year.

Unsettling to me as a long time fan.

Just me.

Millage may vary for others but I do not want to grind out another QB project.

If Garrett goes in 2019 I would prefer saving Daks contract for another QB the new coach wants to develop.

he played well in the GB playoff loss, and like Romo its the players around him particularly the defense that fails the team.. just because they QB, doesnt mean the losses are hung on them..

I answered Daks closer to a RW type and RW runs fpr around500-600 yards a season..id like to see Dak do something clsoer to that..

Number1 · Dec 14, 2019

Redball Express said:
Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

weak blocking

the problem on D is weak tackling

they aren't hard enough, they hustle, but lack killer instinct

gmb1 · Dec 14, 2019

ShortRound131 said:
The few times he did the last game he was awful

Dak is slow as molasses. Jackson runs at the speed of light. No comparison.

shabazz · Dec 14, 2019

Ranching said:
He's not a runner. Stereotypes are not good.

Yeah, but running for 1st downs is good. Rodgers does it all the time when the defense gives it to him. Not sure what stereotype you are speaking of but if a stereotypical Qb runs when their is open field, than we dont have a stereotypical Qb.

Josh Allen ran 10 times against us. Please tell us about what stereotype he is?

Are you guys satisfied with Dak's running yet?

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