Are you guys satisfied with Dak's running yet?

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xwalker said:
How many Lamar Jackson style QBs have won a Super Bowl?

Russell Wilson only runs slightly more than Dak.

Steve Young is probably the SB winner that ran the most but he was still more of a scrambler than QB/RB type.

Staubach was a great scrambler but not a "running QB" per se.

Cam Newton got to the Super Bowl and lost to (at that point in time) a statue with minimal remaining arm strength.

Brady makes avoiding sacks and avoiding getting hit a top priority and that's not a new concept for him.

RG3 looked like the next Mega-Star but he ran too much and didn't have a Cam Newton body (Cam is bigger than LBs). RG didn't develop as a passer and master of passing game concepts in part because he could always tuck and run when he needed to until he couldn't...
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How many Lamar Jackson style QBs have their been? Him and Mike Vick and maybe Randall Cunningham. I'm not sure how fast Randall was but there's not a great sample size. Not to mention, Brady keeps winning all the damn Superbowls so nobody else is winning either. Not even the great Aaron Rodgers as of late.
 
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shabazz said:
Dak ran a grand total of 1 time versus the Patriots for a whopping 4 yards

Situational running, our collective azzes
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Lol... our collective glutes.
I like that better.
 
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Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

:huh:
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Those 3 and 2-4 he needs to run for the first instead of chunking it 30 yards down field!
 
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He's had plenty of opportunities to run, in which he would've gotten more yards than Zeke, but he chose to give it to Zeke. I don't think you can blame Moore when he's giving Dak the option and Dak just isn't taking it.
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Then if he is not making the best decision, yank him.

I can't tell you how many times we see Dak come to the LOS and start yelling "kill kill" only to see him change to Zeke get a handoff and get stuffed and end the drive.

I sit and shake my head and think "Dak..was the call from the bench so bad you had to change it for THAT play? You must be joking."

Run the play called and stop injecting yourself into the playcalling. Payton Manning or Tony Romo you are not
 
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Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

:huh:
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shabazz said:
Yeah, but running for 1st downs is good. Rodgers does it all the time when the defense gives it to him. Not sure what stereotype you are speaking of but if a stereotypical Qb runs when their is open field, than we dont have a stereotypical Qb.

Josh Allen ran 10 times against us. Please tell us about what stereotype he is?
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Allen isn't playing without a contract.
 
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Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

:huh:
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Is Dak afraid of getting hurt in a contract year ?
I cant figure it out either.
That's one of his assets.
 
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Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

:huh:
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He cant do that, the jones boys stated early this year and last year they didnt want dak running a lot, he was to pass all the time.
So unless they change their outlook on that Dak wont be running much.
Teams are seeing with lamar and the offense harbaugh made for him , and what can be done, so teams might start wanting their qb to run more.
Trubiskjy had not run much this year, but recently started taking off more.
But kellen is not free to do what he wants, and has to use JG's playbook, and I dont know who all makes up the game plans.
 
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Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

:huh:
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He panics back there not a cool customer as Jackson. His running style reminds of the Lego characters running simply doesn't have the groove or look comfortable doing it.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
He cant do that, the jones boys stated early this year and last year they didnt want dak running a lot, he was to pass all the time.
So unless they change their outlook on that Dak wont be running much.
Teams are seeing with lamar and the offense harbaugh made for him , and what can be done, so teams might start wanting their qb to run more.
Trubiskjy had not run much this year, but recently started taking off more.
But kellen is not free to do what he wants, and has to use JG's playbook, and I dont know who all makes up the game plans.
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I agree about Garrett and the mandate about limited running.

Which makes no sense.

In college Dak ran alot. Watch his hilites.

Sprint outs, RPOs, quick pitches..

and he basically rarely threw deeper than 20 yards as he was told to get rid of the ball quickly.

They did this with him in 2016 when he took over for Romo.

It was wildly successful.

Then the changes came where he was asked to read defenses and throw deeper with timing.

Absolutely not his strong suites.

So now in order to continue his passing development they traded for Cooper.

But the tradeoff has been Zeke and the OL less required than once they were needed as road graders to pass protectors.

Very different identity to me for sure.

And now we are struggling completely losing our identity in the process.

This happened back in 2015 again when they let DeMarco Murray go.

It was immediately apparent the team lost its direction without him.

Then enter Zeke in 2016.

Instant new identity again.

So you are correct about not wanting to run Dak.

But you cannot pay these guys $100s of millions of $$$ and save them to preserve your investment.

You have to wind them and let them go.

;)
 
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Redball Express said:
Not me.

Moore has not taken Dak and let him run wild like the Ravens do Jackson.

Why not?

Clearly last year we won games with his running.

Now..nothing.

I watched Jackson destroy the defense and I realize Jackson is different.

But I do not see the Ravens being squeamish about injury to Jackson.

On the contrary, he was already injured going into last night's game.

So what are we waiting for Mr. Moore?

It's about too late for you to change anything enough to better win.

So run RPOs, tell Dak to takeoff even if somebody is open.

Run plays with Zeke trailing and pitch to him down the sidelines.

Shake up the other team and dictate what we want to do.

Grow a pair, Moore.

Get off speed dial to Linehan and open the new playbook you said you had.

:huh:
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I don't blame Moore. I blame Garrett. I'm positively sure that Garrett has hamstrung Moore's plays and forced him to call more of his plays from his playbook.
 
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Bullflop said:
Opposing teams are wary of Zeke's knack for dominating in the running game and are guarding more carefully in stopping it. I don't doubt in Ezekiel's tendency to be somewhat less forceful this year for getting the big gains for whatever reason but he seems to be gradually getting back to his former self in terms of his physical conditioning. His holdout did him no favors in that regard, although he's slowly recovering.

Nevertheless, Moore needs to be his own man and do what is necessary to avoid recent dependence upon run calling on first down and placing undo emphasis on it as a predictable call. The OL simply isn't the force that they were in the past. An even distribution of passing and running plays on 1st down would very likely be a more successful option now. Moore must be his own man and so what he, himself, deems most successful.
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Bingo people! this poster NAILED IT!
 
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