CBS: Dak and projected 2020 franchise tag of $32.5M

Creeper · Dec 31, 2019

I am okay with slapping the franchise tag on him for 2020. If he performs better, shows up in the big games, and maintains his mechanics for the entire season, then sign him long term. If not, then they may have to look elsewhere.

RustyBourneHorse · Dec 31, 2019

rags747 said:
Is Dak the greatest, no but I do love the kids try hard attitude. Right team we definitely can win a SB with him. Let’s start with a Championship defense.

A championship defence is long overdue for us

KingRah · Dec 31, 2019

b0xZZ said:
This is thing about Dak. If you decide to move away from him, you now have to go into QB search mode and that is a daunting difficult task. We were spoiled with Romo and to a degree Dak but for each one of them there are 10 Quincy Carter's. Anyone remember those days? How about some Chad Hutchinson? That gap between Aikman and Romo was brutal.

So you have to ask yourself can you win with Dak if he has top shelf talent around him? Would a better defense and better play calling on offense or just plain better coaching in general make it work?

He's neither as bad or as good as most folks describe on this board, he's probably square in the middle somewhere.

Id franchise him nd draft a qb. If he improves, so be it. If he doesnt, you already have you qb of the future.

Adreme · Dec 31, 2019

Creeper said:
I am okay with slapping the franchise tag on him for 2020. If he performs better, shows up in the big games, and maintains his mechanics for the entire season, then sign him long term. If not, then they may have to look elsewhere.

If you tag him in 2020 the potential contract will not be signed for under 40m per so it will be either 2 years of franchise tag and then walk or 40m+ and then walk.

irishline · Dec 31, 2019

b0xZZ said:
Romo wasn't a project QB? He was an UFA. Dak was a 4th round pick that nobody saw coming. When is the last time this franchise drafted a blue chip QB not named Aikman?

When was the last time this franchise drafted a QB in the first round? I will give you a hint, both were drafted the same year as the QB you mentioned (Aikman and Walsh in 1989). You kind of have to try to draft a blue chip QB to have a chance at actually getting one.

30 years without drafting a QB in the first round. Longest streak in thr NFL.

starcity214 · Jan 1, 2020

b0xZZ said:
Romo wasn't a project QB? He was an UFA. Dak was a 4th round pick that nobody saw coming. When is the last time this franchise drafted a blue chip QB not named Aikman?

And furthermore, there is no guarantee that a high pedigree college QB plans out either.

I'm not advocating paying the guy 40 million but this isn't an easy decision by any means.

You could literally say that about any other position..

Should we just stop drafting Safeties and give Jeff Heath 15 million a year? I mean, when's the last time this team drafted a good Safety, Darren Woodson? Do you see how dumb that line of thinking is?

Adreme · Jan 1, 2020

starcity214 said:
You could literally say that about any other position..

Should we just stop drafting Safeties and give Jeff Heath 15 million a year? I mean, when's the last time this team drafted a good Safety, Darren Woodson? Do you see how dumb that line of thinking is?

Let us assume you have a S who is statistically better than one you would be able to draft but is not great (this happens a lot with pass rushers); if you let him walk you can probably 80-20 rule him and draft someone fresh who is not quite as good and the team will not lose that many more games. A QB is not a S though; if you have an above-average QB and you try to draft a replacement even in the middle of the first round, you are statistically going to get someone worse and likely far worse than what you had previously. A hole at QB, unlike say S, is crippling to a team. Go look at the Bears or the Chargers or the Jags just recently to see what happens when you do not have a NFL caliber QB and that is why they are worth so much after the rookie deal expires.

Aviano90 · Jan 1, 2020

Sign him long term or get rid of him. There should be no in between. Just make up your mind and quit being a vertical smile. He either is or isn’t the future. Decide already.

PAPPYDOG · Jan 1, 2020

starcity214 said:
And that's the issue with Dak!

He couldn't get it done with this team, what makes you think he will get it done with a lesser team?

Byron Jones is gone..

Quinn is gone..

And other starters on defense will be gone within the next couple years..

With Dak taking up so much cap, you won't be able to sign top defensive players.

If Dak can't get it done with this defense, what makes you think he will with a bottom feeder defense?

And stop it with the Quincy Carter/ Chad Hutchinson crap..

The reason we didn't find a QB was because jerry kept hoping a scrub/project would pan out instead of just straight up drafting a blue chip QB..

The Eagles liked a QB and went and got him (wentz)

The Chiefs drafted Mahomes despite already having Smith on the roster..

Why can't we do the same?

Cause we have to sacrifice the # 1 Sports franchise in the world to mediocrity for years to come for a guy called Dak Prescott?
Who the heck made this QB so essential and the end of the line for us at QB?
LOL....as not to cry with this clown of a QB some of you are selling here daily!

KingRah · Jan 1, 2020

irishline said:
When was the last time this franchise drafted a QB in the first round? I will give you a hint, both were drafted the same year as the QB you mentioned (Aikman and Walsh in 1989). You kind of have to try to draft a blue chip QB to have a chance at actually getting one.

30 years without drafting a QB in the first round. Longest streak in thr NFL.

The best time to try to draft. qb high is now when you have a serviceable starter. Franchise Dak for 2 years while you search for the future. Treat him like kitna when they drafted Carson Palmer.

StarBoyz83 · Jan 1, 2020

Kind of hard to see Dallas being able to afford to tag dak. Unless dallas they can get quite a bit more money from restructuring contracts.

DFWJC · Jan 1, 2020

irishline said:
When was the last time this franchise drafted a QB in the first round? I will give you a hint, both were drafted the same year as the QB you mentioned (Aikman and Walsh in 1989). You kind of have to try to draft a blue chip QB to have a chance at actually getting one.

30 years without drafting a QB in the first round. Longest streak in thr NFL.

Not objecting to your post, but when is the last time New England used a 1st rounder on a QB?

Adreme · Jan 1, 2020

DFWJC said:
Not objecting to your post, but when is the last time New England used a 1st rounder on a QB?

I mean that is not a fair point. Hypothetically you can find the guy in any round; statistically you are FAR less likely to find him after the first round and far less likely to find a guy better than Dak after the first round. Once you find that guy though you probably are not drafting a QB for about 15-20 years.

mahoneybill · Jan 1, 2020

b0xZZ said:
This is thing about Dak. If you decide to move away from him, you now have to go into QB search mode and that is a daunting difficult task. We were spoiled with Romo and to a degree Dak but for each one of them there are 10 Quincy Carter's. Anyone remember those days? How about some Chad Hutchinson? That gap between Aikman and Romo was brutal.

So you have to ask yourself can you win with Dak if he has top shelf talent around him? Would a better defense and better play calling on offense or just plain better coaching in general make it work?

He's neither as bad or as good as most folks describe on this board, he's probably square in the middle somewhere.

Agree. We fixed the kicker with Forbath. Now fix Special Teams for better starting field position and eject Marinelli and his bend don't break Defense....

Throw out the Garrett keep it close till the 4th quarter game plan that leads to .500 ball.....

mahoneybill · Jan 1, 2020

Creeper said:
I am okay with slapping the franchise tag on him for 2020. If he performs better, shows up in the big games, and maintains his mechanics for the entire season, then sign him long term. If not, then they may have to look elsewhere.

Also , get a real seasoned QB to play behind him as we really don't know what Cooper Rush brings in actual games ....

Philly is a prime example of waiting too long for a couple of pass completions to salvage a W that from all accounts of game video reviewing was there for the taking in
the passing game , let alone abandoning the run...

PAPPYDOG · Jan 1, 2020

Aviano90 said:
Sign him long term or get rid of him. There should be no in between. Just make up your mind and quit being a vertical smile. He either is or isn’t the future. Decide already.

Yep, this will solve our offensive inadequacies so boot away I say!

OldJarhead · Jan 1, 2020

starcity214 said:
This team should stop cuddling Dak and draft a QB if one is there in the first 3 rounds

That way, We are not held hostage by Cooper Rush..

The only people who are opposed to this are the people that know The new QB would probably be more talented than Dak

Trust me, I'm no fan of #4. I just don't see how the Cowboys can get better at the position this draft. If there is a young QB (a real QB) out there, I am all for drafting him and seeing what he's got. I don't want the circus the Broncos have been at QB the last several years though.

plymkr · Jan 1, 2020

starcity214 said:
And that's the issue with Dak!

He couldn't get it done with this team, what makes you think he will get it done with a lesser team?

Byron Jones is gone..

Quinn is gone..

And other starters on defense will be gone within the next couple years..

With Dak taking up so much cap, you won't be able to sign top defensive players.

If Dak can't get it done with this defense, what makes you think he will with a bottom feeder defense?

And stop it with the Quincy Carter/ Chad Hutchinson crap..

The reason we didn't find a QB was because jerry kept hoping a scrub/project would pan out instead of just straight up drafting a blue chip QB..

The Eagles liked a QB and went and got him (wentz)

The Chiefs drafted Mahomes despite already having Smith on the roster..

Why can't we do the same?

Because those teams have real GMs and owners who want to win. We have a narcissist for an owner who's failing at General Manager.

Hadenough · Jan 1, 2020

b0xZZ said:
So you have to ask yourself can you win with Dak if he has top shelf talent around him?

Thats the thing is he has a ton of talent around him now and isnt winning anything and its going to be less if he gets a monster contract. The biggest problem I see is that Dak isnt worth the 30+ mil a year but thats how much he wants. If you look at Cousins he isnt worth the money either, and that team hasnt gotten any better since they let Case Keenum walk. NFL QBs are not as hard to find as they used to be. More college teams are running a pro style offense and these college QBs are getting better training and coaching that helps them transition to the NFL. I would much rather have a stacked team on both sides of the ball and a rookie QB than let 3 impact pro bowl players walk and pay Dak.

Beast_from_East · Jan 1, 2020

Forget the tag, either decide if Dak is or is not your franchise QB.

If he is, then sign him long term right now. If he is not, then let him walk in free agency.

Its like with Garrett, decide right now if he is or is not going to be your head coach and get on with it.

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There are no Dak haters just Cowboy lovers!!!

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